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TV: Did you make Barry's List?
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SonofSouthie
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Re: TV: Did you make Barry's List?
Narcos latest season was alright. Better than the half baked season of the Cali Cartel but still not as good as the Escobar story. They seem to be breezing through these stories awfully fast which really doesnt give the bad guys any sort of real heft to them. I get the way they are structuring it but they are doing a real disservice to the story because of it. If they ever do El Chapo I shudder to think how watered down it will be.
As for the end...eh. I mean it was kind of cool but since I dont really think that highly of "El Padrino" due to how they characterize him I am not really that suped up for it. In fact it makes the Americans look really ridiculous that they havent been able to destroy the weak kneed, whiny pretender Godfather that is Gallardo. The dude is a full on ***** on the show outside of maybe two scenes total.
I will watch the next season, but the show peaked quite a bit ago imho.
Narcos latest season was alright. Better than the half baked season of the Cali Cartel but still not as good as the Escobar story. They seem to be breezing through these stories awfully fast which really doesnt give the bad guys any sort of real heft to them. I get the way they are structuring it but they are doing a real disservice to the story because of it. If they ever do El Chapo I shudder to think how watered down it will be.
As for the end...eh. I mean it was kind of cool but since I dont really think that highly of "El Padrino" due to how they characterize him I am not really that suped up for it. In fact it makes the Americans look really ridiculous that they havent been able to destroy the weak kneed, whiny pretender Godfather that is Gallardo. The dude is a full on ***** on the show outside of maybe two scenes total.
I will watch the next season, but the show peaked quite a bit ago imho.
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I think that last scene was more geared toward Kiki, and "How El Padrino will know my name." I liked that aspect of it. I agree they are glossing over for periods of time, but then again, nothing REALLY major happened in this last season to really explore. They are going from major event to major event, with a little detail sprinkled in. That's enough for what the show is doing. To paraphrase Henry Rollins, "I am the guy who is waiting for the 12 hour series on WWII, instead of the paltry 3 hour series." Narcos is doing the 3 hour series version.
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Ummm...what scene are you talking about the scene with Kiki and El Pedrino cause that isnt in the last episode. The last scene of the season really didnt have much to do with that.
I think that last scene was more geared toward Kiki, and "How El Padrino will know my name." I liked that aspect of it. I agree they are glossing over for periods of time, but then again, nothing REALLY major happened in this last season to really explore. They are going from major event to major event, with a little detail sprinkled in. That's enough for what the show is doing. To paraphrase Henry Rollins, "I am the guy who is waiting for the 12 hour series on WWII, instead of the paltry 3 hour series." Narcos is doing the 3 hour series version.
Ummm...what scene are you talking about the scene with Kiki and El Pedrino cause that isnt in the last episode. The last scene of the season really didnt have much to do with that.
Re: TV: Did you make Barry's List?
Yeah it is. El Padrino sits down with Kiki and asks how much does he know, how long has Kiki been on El Pedrino, etc.
White out part.
Yeah it is. El Padrino sits down with Kiki and asks how much does he know, how long has Kiki been on El Pedrino, etc.
White out part.
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Yeah that isnt the end...there is more after that.
(the last scene is the lead in to next season)
Yeah that isnt the end...there is more after that.
(the last scene is the lead in to next season)
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And ya see I didnt like that scene at all. It felt ridiculously forced and I honestly didnt feel anything for either character.
See my problem with the season is that El Padrino is just not that menacing. They never make him into the badass he was in real life. The Narcos version doesnt scare me, he is a whiny little weasel who doesnt have the sack to actually get his hands dirty outside of the very beginning. (and one guy he kills towards the end) Everyone else I can totally buy the characterization but you need to have the evil psychopath everyone hates or there is no reason to root for the cops to take him down. Sure the DFS are bad and we all want them to die but they almost wanted to make El Padrino into the Mexican version of Escobar and while in real life I could buy that the series just doesnt give him any real chance to be that ruthless.
I am all for the Readers Digest version of the story, but then pick stories that work better that way. The best part of these stories is how ridiculously powerful they were able to get in short time, and how long they held it and how fast it collapsed. The more you breeze through it though the less the fall is really that shocking. (which is why the Escobar story is the best...they stretch it out over 2 seasons leading into 3) Each of these stories should have at least two seasons on their own. (and it looks like Mexico will based on how it ended if not more depending what comes next)
If I was ranking the seasons out of 10:
Season 1: 9
Season 2: 8
Season 3: 6.5
Season 4: 7.5
One thing I did like was how they were able to bring back certain characters as the stories intertwined with the Colombians stories. It was a treat seeing some of them again
And ya see I didnt like that scene at all. It felt ridiculously forced and I honestly didnt feel anything for either character.
See my problem with the season is that El Padrino is just not that menacing. They never make him into the badass he was in real life. The Narcos version doesnt scare me, he is a whiny little weasel who doesnt have the sack to actually get his hands dirty outside of the very beginning. (and one guy he kills towards the end) Everyone else I can totally buy the characterization but you need to have the evil psychopath everyone hates or there is no reason to root for the cops to take him down. Sure the DFS are bad and we all want them to die but they almost wanted to make El Padrino into the Mexican version of Escobar and while in real life I could buy that the series just doesnt give him any real chance to be that ruthless.
I am all for the Readers Digest version of the story, but then pick stories that work better that way. The best part of these stories is how ridiculously powerful they were able to get in short time, and how long they held it and how fast it collapsed. The more you breeze through it though the less the fall is really that shocking. (which is why the Escobar story is the best...they stretch it out over 2 seasons leading into 3) Each of these stories should have at least two seasons on their own. (and it looks like Mexico will based on how it ended if not more depending what comes next)
If I was ranking the seasons out of 10:
Season 1: 9
Season 2: 8
Season 3: 6.5
Season 4: 7.5
One thing I did like was how they were able to bring back certain characters as the stories intertwined with the Colombians stories. It was a treat seeing some of them again
Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Re: TV: Did you make Barry's List?
Just binged all 12 hour long Eps of Glitch on Netflix. Was recommended by a few Aussie friends and the show is highly acclaimed down there. I really enjoyed it- seems to be done much better than the shows with a similar theme.
Just binged all 12 hour long Eps of Glitch on Netflix. Was recommended by a few Aussie friends and the show is highly acclaimed down there. I really enjoyed it- seems to be done much better than the shows with a similar theme.
Adam_Krug#1
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Re: TV: Did you make Barry's List?
Bumping mics on Netflix is 5 stars if you like comics that work blue.
Almost all of my favorite comedians roled into one series.
Bumping mics on Netflix is 5 stars if you like comics that work blue.
Almost all of my favorite comedians roled into one series.
aparch
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Re: TV: Did you make Barry's List?
I'm about halfway through season three of The Man in the High Castle on Amazon Prime, and holy hell this has been good. I saw some commentary that the secondary cast was over expanded in this season, but it works (so far).
Also, it's pretty amazing for a show about the dark depths fascism has that it made Hitler and Himmler likeable characters.
I'm about halfway through season three of The Man in the High Castle on Amazon Prime, and holy hell this has been good. I saw some commentary that the secondary cast was over expanded in this season, but it works (so far).
Also, it's pretty amazing for a show about the dark depths fascism has that it made Hitler and Himmler likeable characters.
PrezdeJohnson09
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Anybody watching Escape at Dannemora on Showtime?
I've enjoyed it so far. Hits close to home for me since it's about 2 hours away from where I live and I have made many trips to Plattsburgh for work over the years which is the city the prison is just outside of.
Anybody watching Escape at Dannemora on Showtime?
I've enjoyed it so far. Hits close to home for me since it's about 2 hours away from where I live and I have made many trips to Plattsburgh for work over the years which is the city the prison is just outside of.
Yea, but you're protected by a moat and a tank.
Re: TV: Did you make Barry's List?
I finally finished the first three seasons, and will probably start Mexico this weekend.
I kind of disagree with you a little bit about your rankings of the first three seasons, and the idea that each story should be spread out over two seasons.
I thought the Season Two sucked. Of the 9-10 hours of run time, there had to have been 5 hours of shots of Escobar standing alone in his yard or in a field, smoking weed and gazing silently off into space. Another three hours was of him on the phone with his wife. It was like they had material for two hours of show but wanted to make an entire season out of it.
On the other hand, I liked Season Three. I didn't think it was quite as good as Season One, but I enjoyed it. It didn't feel to me like they were just trying to overwhelm the viewers with endless bloodbaths. My opinion might also be colored by the fact that while I liked the Pena character, I didn't care for Murphy's character.
And ya see I didnt like that scene at all. It felt ridiculously forced and I honestly didnt feel anything for either character.
See my problem with the season is that El Padrino is just not that menacing. They never make him into the badass he was in real life. The Narcos version doesnt scare me, he is a whiny little weasel who doesnt have the sack to actually get his hands dirty outside of the very beginning. (and one guy he kills towards the end) Everyone else I can totally buy the characterization but you need to have the evil psychopath everyone hates or there is no reason to root for the cops to take him down. Sure the DFS are bad and we all want them to die but they almost wanted to make El Padrino into the Mexican version of Escobar and while in real life I could buy that the series just doesnt give him any real chance to be that ruthless.
I am all for the Readers Digest version of the story, but then pick stories that work better that way. The best part of these stories is how ridiculously powerful they were able to get in short time, and how long they held it and how fast it collapsed. The more you breeze through it though the less the fall is really that shocking. (which is why the Escobar story is the best...they stretch it out over 2 seasons leading into 3) Each of these stories should have at least two seasons on their own. (and it looks like Mexico will based on how it ended if not more depending what comes next)
If I was ranking the seasons out of 10:
Season 1: 9
Season 2: 8
Season 3: 6.5
Season 4: 7.5
One thing I did like was how they were able to bring back certain characters as the stories intertwined with the Colombians stories. It was a treat seeing some of them again
I finally finished the first three seasons, and will probably start Mexico this weekend.
I kind of disagree with you a little bit about your rankings of the first three seasons, and the idea that each story should be spread out over two seasons.
I thought the Season Two sucked. Of the 9-10 hours of run time, there had to have been 5 hours of shots of Escobar standing alone in his yard or in a field, smoking weed and gazing silently off into space. Another three hours was of him on the phone with his wife. It was like they had material for two hours of show but wanted to make an entire season out of it.
On the other hand, I liked Season Three. I didn't think it was quite as good as Season One, but I enjoyed it. It didn't feel to me like they were just trying to overwhelm the viewers with endless bloodbaths. My opinion might also be colored by the fact that while I liked the Pena character, I didn't care for Murphy's character.
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Oh yeah I forgot about the endless Escobar scenes by himself. That did get tedious. I think Season 2 is clouded by the fact that I watched it back to back with 1 so it felt more spread out than it probably actually was. Season 3 broke new ground so it felt different even though I watched it almost right after I finished 2.
I downgrade Season 2 to a 7...it beats 3 because Escobar saying "Plata" 8 million times is still better than the weak way they presented the "Gentlemen of Cali"
Oh yeah I forgot about the endless Escobar scenes by himself. That did get tedious. I think Season 2 is clouded by the fact that I watched it back to back with 1 so it felt more spread out than it probably actually was. Season 3 broke new ground so it felt different even though I watched it almost right after I finished 2.
I downgrade Season 2 to a 7...it beats 3 because Escobar saying "Plata" 8 million times is still better than the weak way they presented the "Gentlemen of Cali"
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In the middle of Springsteen on Broadway. Holy **** this is good, and I'm not a real big fan of Springsteen...
In the middle of Springsteen on Broadway. Holy **** this is good, and I'm not a real big fan of Springsteen...
bigblue_dl
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It got even better. That was one of the best things I've watched on TV in a while. Period.
It got even better. That was one of the best things I've watched on TV in a while. Period.
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