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TV 19 - Simpsons Did It

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St. Clown said:
I have, too, and I agree. Obi-Wan looks skittish after having taken measures to blend in with the rest of society, and that makes him [fill in blank here] when he has trouble with various things.
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I have always thought that "Jedi losing their connection to the force" is a trope that Star Wars has used before.

Yup, looked it up. Ahsoka, Luke, and Kanan (from Rebels) all severed their force connection at various points while in exile. It would absolutely make sense for Obi-Wan to do the same.
 
Of course it would be...since everything Di$ney Star Wars has done is completely derivative. (Even most of TLJ)
 
Handyman said:
Of course it would be...since everything Di$ney Star Wars has done is completely derivative. (Even most of TLJ)
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I think you’d like the premise of this review.

https://youtu.be/XtArKawnWNI

Also, I don’t know what about disengagement from the Force makes it derivative, but I’ll take your word from it. I know the same concept was used in the Expanded Universe/Legends books before Disney bought the franchise.
 
Handyman said:
Of course it would be...since everything Di$ney Star Wars has done is completely derivative. (Even most of TLJ)
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Well, someone tried in episode 8 and everyone whined. They're giving the people what they want. I had high hopes after episode 8 but those hopes are dead.
 
Well damn. I liked the first 2 episodes of Obi-Wan (overlooking painful chase leia but can’t catch her scenes and I dunno, Reva’s character breaking canon, I mean she can read minds but suddenly it’s become, “well, once in a while she can”)…

knives out! (Pun intended). This show must be controlled by Kathleen kennedy. It’s the only way to explain terrible story telling, the main actor being a side plot, a 10-year old girl outrunning a grown ass man (who btw was a Jedi), leia NOW knowing for sure who Ben/Obi-Wan is thereby destroying canon of episode 4 (or just plain old Star Wars as it was called in 77), someone slapping a stormtrooper and that’s how you defeat them?, Vader not crossing fire to waste or torture Kenobi for “we promise we may explain that later”, Kenobi going Rey and relearning the force in five minutes, Vader not killing Reva after her failure “I underestimated you”???? Fuck that. The writing is lazy, uninspired and frankly they seem to be breaking canon intentionally to give the finger to fans of the OT.

Ms. marvel has blown Star Wars away in 1 episode.

favreau, Filoni and Lucas should come out with a statement distancing themselves from this mess of a show and calling for KK’s firing.

this is Last Jedi and ROS level stupid.
 
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All of those Jim posted were from the era of Disney books, TV shows, and movies. Aside from Luke, the others all did it to avoid detection by the Empire.
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Who cares why the Jedi did it, the point is they just recycle ideas because they are spinning their wheels. Star Wars has become an endless cycle of repeating itself under Di$ney.

To be fair though, Star Wars Fanboys are some of the most hardlined of any I have ever seen. They fear change like the MCU fears practical effects ;^)
 
It's why what Marvel did since Iron Man released was brilliant. They went full original canon for the most part with all the characters. Then, after they finished that arc out they pulled out the multiverse. Now, they can't do anything wrong? Why? Cause nothing is canon in the mulitverse. Everything is wide open.

It honestly is what I thought Episode 8 was about. And that was the perfect place to do it. Bringing back an old character in 9 and tying Rey to that character did more to destroy the Original Trilogy than anything 8 did.

And now they're trying to subvert things in a prequel to the original trilogy? That's insane. They had their chance to open things up. They blew it.
 
As I said at the time TLJ was the right idea executed awfully. The story was just plain dumb and way too easy to poke holes in for people who actually watched Star Wars beyond just thinking they were fun. They had the right idea of not making another Empire, but they just didn't have a story that made any of it make sense. They never even fleshed out most of the characters enough in Episode 7 (especially the main characters who were all barely one note Original Cast wannabes) to make the subversion work, and you can tell there was characters Rian hated because he completely wrote them off.
 
Yeah I like what The Last Jedi tried to do, but hated how they tried to do it. I'm not hating Obi-Wan, but I've turned my brain off. It is exactly what Disney wants us to do, so I do feel a bit unclean. Oh well, I'm exhausted.
 
I got better things to do than watch a series I never wanted about a character that gets ruined the more you add to his backstory.
 
Handyman said:
As I said at the time TLJ was the right idea executed awfully. The story was just plain dumb and way too easy to poke holes in for people who actually watched Star Wars beyond just thinking they were fun. They had the right idea of not making another Empire, but they just didn't have a story that made any of it make sense. They never even fleshed out most of the characters enough in Episode 7 (especially the main characters who were all barely one note Original Cast wannabes) to make the subversion work, and you can tell there was characters Rian hated because he completely wrote them off.
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I actually felt VII started giving us a good adventure with the new characters and their interactions, while giving us a little interaction with the original characters, and was hoping for more of that in VIII. But as you say they turned away from that in VIII and went complete apeshit in IX.
 
Handyman said:
As I said at the time TLJ was the right idea executed awfully. The story was just plain dumb and way too easy to poke holes in for people who actually watched Star Wars beyond just thinking they were fun. They had the right idea of not making another Empire, but they just didn't have a story that made any of it make sense. They never even fleshed out most of the characters enough in Episode 7 (especially the main characters who were all barely one note Original Cast wannabes) to make the subversion work, and you can tell there was characters Rian hated because he completely wrote them off.
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I was so thrilled with what he was trying to do I didn't care about the plot holes, or character development.
 
However Kenobi ends it looks like Favreau will be coming to the rescue with additional episodes.

kathleen Kennedy had control of this show stemming from her involvement in the derailed movie. Thankfully she’ll be gone soon and Favreau and Filoni will take over. The difference in the quality of writing, sets, cinematography etc. between mando and Kenobi is stark.

https://youtu.be/6mzqOhh0RAU
 
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