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Trump First Term I: I for One Welcome Our New Trumpy Overlord

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This is going to be a rocky period in our history. Look at all the turmoil he's causing and he hasn't even taken office yet.
 
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5mn_Major said:
This is going to be a rocky period in our history. Look at all the turmoil he's causing and he hasn't even taken office yet.
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The man has skills, yuuuuuuuge skills. They are great big wonderful skills. They're so great, so yuuuuuuuge, they impact all the way to Jhina.
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Probably the best answer yet to Jill Stein's adventures in recounts:


Every politician's dream: Slush fund.

Source: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307787-annoyed-dems-dismiss-recount-as-waste-of-time
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Or for the puerile POTUS-elect a dish best served warm: Roger Stone: Recount ups prosecution odds for Clinton

A longtime ally of President-elect Donald Trump says the Clinton campaign joining recount efforts increases the chances of Hillary Clinton facing criminal prosecution.

“I think Hillary increases her chances of prosecution by acting this way,” Roger Stone said Monday on Newsmax TV’s “The Steve Malzberg Show.”
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The fun never ends.
 
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5mn_Major said:
This is going to be a rocky period in our history. Look at all the turmoil he's causing and he hasn't even taken office yet.
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And we will now witness confirmation bias in its most elemental form. Those who voted for Trump will not see turmoil or harm of any kind; they will see change. Positive change. Either that or they will convince themselves it would have been much worse under Clinton.
 
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burd said:
And we will now witness confirmation bias in its most elemental form. Those who voted for Trump will not see turmoil or harm of any kind; they will see change. Positive change. Either that or they will convince themselves it would have been much worse under Clinton.
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Those who detest tD will blame everything on him. Those who support him wont. This is different from the previous umpteen administrations in what way?
 
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busterman62 said:
Those who detest tD will blame everything on him. Those who support him wont. This is different from the previous umpteen administrations in what way?
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Sure, but it's a matter of degree, it seems to me. Just because this election and subsequent transfer of administration shares some characteristics with all others does not mean it cannot be distinguished from others. In my lifetime, I have never witnessed a candidate, much less a president, who is so given to immature, impulsive behavior. It is a zoo unlike any other I have seen. Perhaps it will go well . . . .
 
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busterman62 said:
This is different from the previous umpteen administrations in what way?
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The content of the policies being opposed.

Quite the paradox from Trump this morning claiming to want to "take away citizenship" for burning a flag. How do you take away something that is already gone?
 
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MaizeRage said:
The content of the policies being opposed.

Quite the paradox from Trump this morning claiming to want to "take away citizenship" for burning a flag. How do you take away something that is already gone?
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if you already lost it, quit yer cryin'!!! you commie pinko terrorist flag burner you!!!
 
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burd said:
Sure, but it's a matter of degree, it seems to me. Just because this election and subsequent transfer of administration shares some characteristics with all others does not mean it cannot be distinguished from others. In my lifetime, I have never witnessed a candidate, much less a president, who is so given to immature, impulsive behavior. It is a zoo unlike any other I have seen. Perhaps it will go well . . . .
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And how many other administrations have seen a quick uptick of racial/religious biased violence?

When you see how people react to don, it's not terribly comfortable.
 
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joecct said:
Fear knows no political boundary.
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There are studies that suggest that motivation by fear correlates more highly with political conservatism than liberalism. Presumably it's not causal, but they each spring from other factors.

Conservative and liberal brains may actually work a little differently. Obviously neither is intrinsically better, but it may be they each have different strengths and weaknesses.

Haidt has a message for both sides. He wants the left to acknowledge that the right's emphasis on laws, institutions, customs and religion is valuable. Conservatives recognize that democracy is a huge achievement and that maintaining the social order requires imposing constraints on people. Liberal values, on the other hand, also serve important roles: ensuring that the rights of weaker members of society are respected; limiting the harmful effects, such as pollution, that corporations sometimes pass on to others; and fostering innovation by supporting diverse ideas and ways of life.

Haidt is not out to change people's deepest moral beliefs. Yet he thinks that if people could see that those they disagree with are not immoral but simply emphasizing different moral principles, some of the antagonism would subside. Intriguingly, Haidt himself has morphed from liberal to centrist over the course of his research. He now finds value in conservative tenets that he used to reject reflexively: “It's yin and yang. Both sides see different threats; both sides are wise to different virtues.”
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I'm sure that as with all things, the distribution within each subset is more profound than the difference between them: i.e., they may be two normal curves with a huge amount of overlap.
 
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aparch said:
Where can I get a list of his holdings? Asking for my 401k... Err for a friend... ;)
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Seriously. The Trump Administration is going to make the Teapot Dome look like an ethical pimple. If you can't beat em, invest with em! :p
 
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Kepler said:
There are studies that suggest that motivation by fear correlates more highly with political conservatism than liberalism. Presumably it's not causal, but they each spring from other factors.

Conservative and liberal brains may actually work a little differently. Obviously neither is intrinsically better, but it may be they each have different strengths and weaknesses.

I'm sure that as with all things, the distribution within each subset is more profound than the difference between them: i.e., they may be two normal curves with a huge amount of overlap.
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Classic liberalism, certainly, because the whole idea is to be free and control your own destiny. It's pretty clear, in today's day and age, that the incumbent party is the "conservatives", with the underlying fear being change. That's at least what I've seen (and experienced) in at least the last 15 or so years from both sides. Being an American truly has some tough responsibilities; no wonder some people want to take the "easy way out" and look towards global authoritarianism, at least until they actually experience it, and then when you're enslaved for life, it's too late to do anything about it.
 
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Kepler said:
Seriously. The Trump Administration is going to make the Teapot Dome look like an ethical pimple. If you can't beat em, invest with em! :p
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This is what I haven't figured out about this coming administration. Are they truly corrupt and looking to get in and basically use their position for whatever financial advantage they can take, or are they simply incompetent? It's the whole "blind trust" thing that has me asking this question.

As far as I know there are generally no "blind trust" laws that require a President, a member of Congress, or even people on a state level to place all their assets into a blind trust before taking office. But there are laws that prohibit conflict of interest type transactions, I assume, on both state and federal levels.

I assume the "blind trust" method is simply the creation of lawyers who have advised past Presidents to take this step in order to avoid the possibility of criminal charges later on. The blind trust is not intended as protection for the public, it's intended as protection for the office holder.

Honestly, I think there is a decent chance he's taking this position simply because he lacks competent, experienced people working behind him, looking out for his best interests. But maybe people are right, and he's just looking to leverage this job for a personal financial benefit.
 
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