Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
After posting what I did, I agree. The Midwest understands "it" as well. My bad...
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FreddyFoyle
AUS & CIS Hockey Nut
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
For me the key was the lack of 'adversity' (I know, overused term ...) Team USA faced in their pool, other than dealing with those injuries and Slovak cheap shots. Three of the four semi-finalists came out of the pool of death. American cakewalk obviously didn't prepare them for a fired up Canadian squad. And yes I agree, if you're not Canadian, or haven't lived here, you really can't understand how big a deal the World Juniors are to the fans and the players, so it is all PASSION on the ice if you are lucky enough to wear the Maple Leaf.
But congrats to Campbell, he was phenomenal and kept this from being a complete blow out.
For me the key was the lack of 'adversity' (I know, overused term ...) Team USA faced in their pool, other than dealing with those injuries and Slovak cheap shots. Three of the four semi-finalists came out of the pool of death. American cakewalk obviously didn't prepare them for a fired up Canadian squad. And yes I agree, if you're not Canadian, or haven't lived here, you really can't understand how big a deal the World Juniors are to the fans and the players, so it is all PASSION on the ice if you are lucky enough to wear the Maple Leaf.
But congrats to Campbell, he was phenomenal and kept this from being a complete blow out.
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Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
No offense but St. Paul is hundreds of miles from Canada and not exactly next to a large population base. Buffalo is minutes from southern Ontario and millions of Canadians. St. Paul/Minneapolis is also a lot bigger than Buffalo. It's not really a fair comparison - you may as well poke fun at Iceland for not saving Europe from Germany during WWII.
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
The team was not only out played but the coaches were out coached. Have they ever heard of a adjustments? all the US did all night was try and beat them one on one all night and never even looked to pass.
The team was not only out played but the coaches were out coached. Have they ever heard of a adjustments? all the US did all night was try and beat them one on one all night and never even looked to pass.
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
I don't understand it -- Buffalo and Western New York as a whole supposedly is a "hockey hotbed."
I go back to what a guy wrote in the Toronto Sun after the opening day of the tournament:
Americans don't show up en masse, but there have been 2 to 3 hour delays at the bridges from Ontario to New York. That is passion for the game.
I don't understand it -- Buffalo and Western New York as a whole supposedly is a "hockey hotbed."
I go back to what a guy wrote in the Toronto Sun after the opening day of the tournament:
Americans don't show up en masse, but there have been 2 to 3 hour delays at the bridges from Ontario to New York. That is passion for the game.
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
Thought the line changes for the US were brutal. Dump it from center ice and get 3 new guys on. Whatever happened to having one forward either try to carry in or forecheck while the other two change? Coaching failure.
Saw the Swiss game in person and have to agree that D'Amigo didn't look great. This was after the hit against the Slovaks so hard to say if that played into it but he didn't look right at all. Lots of really short shifts for him out there so I wonder if he is 100%.
Thought the line changes for the US were brutal. Dump it from center ice and get 3 new guys on. Whatever happened to having one forward either try to carry in or forecheck while the other two change? Coaching failure.
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
Wrong, it was a *** joke! Just have it every year in canada if it is all about the money becase the rest of the world doesn't care enough to host it the right way.
Wrong, it was a *** joke! Just have it every year in canada if it is all about the money becase the rest of the world doesn't care enough to host it the right way.
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
OK I'll say it before someone else does. D'Amigo is a Leafs farmhand, after all!
OK I'll say it before someone else does. D'Amigo is a Leafs farmhand, after all!
Puck Swami
New member
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
The tournament was hosted by St. Paul in 1982 and nobody came. Crickets.
USA Hockey made $4-5 million on this tourney in Buffalo based on selling 65% of tickets to Canadians from the wealthy Golden horseshoe area from St. Catharines to Toronto. The Sabres made $10-12 million for hosting.
No way St. Paul could generate that kind of money for USA Hockey. If you ask what's more important - home ice advantage or cash, you can guess which they would prefer....
The tournament was hosted by St. Paul in 1982 and nobody came. Crickets.
USA Hockey made $4-5 million on this tourney in Buffalo based on selling 65% of tickets to Canadians from the wealthy Golden horseshoe area from St. Catharines to Toronto. The Sabres made $10-12 million for hosting.
No way St. Paul could generate that kind of money for USA Hockey. If you ask what's more important - home ice advantage or cash, you can guess which they would prefer....
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
Back in '82 the tournament was barely a blip on the radar -- certainly not as popular as it is today. If St. Paul hosted, there'd be a stream of cars coming down from the Prairie Provinces.
Back in '82 the tournament was barely a blip on the radar -- certainly not as popular as it is today. If St. Paul hosted, there'd be a stream of cars coming down from the Prairie Provinces.
moose97
Well-known member
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
I was going to post the same comment. At this point, I'd love for the IIHF to go to a Canada every other year and have the other years be Europe two and US one. Maybe that's what they have unofficially gone to, but even then, the US venue's will likely be Buffalo, maybe Grand Forks, ND again and, I don't know - Detroit? And those chosen because of the above - the proximity to getting Canadians across the border. I can't see the Twin Cities or even Boston being successful at this point.
I was going to post the same comment. At this point, I'd love for the IIHF to go to a Canada every other year and have the other years be Europe two and US one. Maybe that's what they have unofficially gone to, but even then, the US venue's will likely be Buffalo, maybe Grand Forks, ND again and, I don't know - Detroit? And those chosen because of the above - the proximity to getting Canadians across the border. I can't see the Twin Cities or even Boston being successful at this point.
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
Campbell was great. Even the first save he made right before Canada scored the first goal...
We just didn't have the personnel. Anybody left off the squad who could have made a difference in a game like this?
Maybe we should just rotate sending Blais or Eaves as coach...or maybe York
Campbell was great. Even the first save he made right before Canada scored the first goal...
We just didn't have the personnel. Anybody left off the squad who could have made a difference in a game like this?
Maybe we should just rotate sending Blais or Eaves as coach...or maybe York
Puck Swami
New member
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
This tournament is just not popular in the United States among Americans, as evidenced by the crowd in Buffalo tonight. Maybe 3,000 USA fans and 15,000 Canada fans. If this was in St. Paul, you'd have 5,000 American fans and 12,000 Canada fans in the house.
Without Canadian fans, the tournament is a failure in the USA.
This tournament is just not popular in the United States among Americans, as evidenced by the crowd in Buffalo tonight. Maybe 3,000 USA fans and 15,000 Canada fans. If this was in St. Paul, you'd have 5,000 American fans and 12,000 Canada fans in the house.
Without Canadian fans, the tournament is a failure in the USA.
Runninwiththedogs
Tech Hot
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
At those prices, it would be cavernous without the canadians.
At those prices, it would be cavernous without the canadians.
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
If I recall, wasn't that the case in Grand Forks as well?
If I recall, wasn't that the case in Grand Forks as well?
PrezdeJohnson09
Proud supporter of Osmirwich hockey
Re: The WJC Thread. USA! USA! USA!
Canada packed the house for every single one of their games. The US/Finland game had around 12,000 at it at best. The tickets were available and no one came.
Canada packed the house for every single one of their games. The US/Finland game had around 12,000 at it at best. The tickets were available and no one came.