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The States: Where We Wish Texas Would Secede Already

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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Presumably because her insider trading harmed the net worth of other rich people.
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Aaah, that would maybe do it. But, isn't all rich people just insider trading anyway? And doesn't everything all of them do affect the others? Take Elon for example. He's completely boned many investors with his utter stupidity over the last 6 months.
 
bronconick said:
For about 5 minutes during the French Revolution. Then some short dude took over and ruined the whole thing.
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Bingo.

The only way the rich and powerful lose is if they tick off other rich and powerful people. (often ones higher up than them) Most revolutions only work because someone powerful backs them in some way.

To pretend this has anything to do with America is to be illiterate about history.
 
SJHovey said:
What's the point of being rich and powerful if that's not the case?
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I could think of lots of things I could do that would not require it...but then I am not an azzhole (to their level) which is why I will never be rich and powerful.
 
Handyman said:
I could think of lots of things I could do that would not require it...but then I am not an azzhole (to their level) which is why I will never be rich and powerful.
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It has nothing to do with being an azzhole. There are plenty of nice people who are also rich and/or powerful, but also still use that wealth and power to their advantage.

And I'm not just talking about getting away with murder or something, although if you want to get away with murder, having tons of money will help. It can be something as simple as getting a permit granted that might otherwise have been denied, getting access to the levers of power, money to pay for expensive accountants and lawyers, a million little things that will give you an advantage.

Honestly, if you have money and power and you don't take advantage of it, you're a fool. It would be like buying a new car, but then letting it just sit in your driveway.

If you have money and power, you want more money and power. That is not unique to any race, sex, political creed or otherwise. That is the simple truth, and the reason it's true is the advantages it will give you.
 
SJHovey said:
It has nothing to do with being an azzhole. There are plenty of nice people who are also rich and/or powerful, but also still use that wealth and power to their advantage.

And I'm not just talking about getting away with murder or something, although if you want to get away with murder, having tons of money will help. It can be something as simple as getting a permit granted that might otherwise have been denied, getting access to the levers of power, money to pay for expensive accountants and lawyers, a million little things that will give you an advantage.

Honestly, if you have money and power and you don't take advantage of it, you're a fool. It would be like buying a new car, but then letting it just sit in your driveway.

If you have money and power, you want more money and power. That is not unique to any race, sex, political creed or otherwise. That is the simple truth, and the reason it's true is the advantages it will give you.
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I appreciate your tidy summary of why a functioning democratic government needs to be strong. Thank you.
 
Bronco said:
I appreciate your tidy summary of why a functioning democratic government needs to be strong. Thank you.
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Hey, seems like the least I could do for you guys, especially given the endless amusement provided to me by posters here who, while drafting posts on their smartphones, laptops, tablets or desk top computers, constantly whine about corporations, profit motives, capitalism, etc..., but then want to talk about new tv shows to stream, ev cars, their new PS5, travel, etc...
 
SJHovey said:
Hey, seems like the least I could do for you guys, especially given the endless amusement provided to me by posters here who, while drafting posts on their smartphones, laptops, tablets or desk top computers, constantly whine about corporations, profit motives, capitalism, etc..., but then want to talk about new tv shows to stream, ev cars, their new PS5, travel, etc...
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Which means of course you purposefully don't read the comments by all the posters who acknowledge and rip that hypocrisy...

Not all of us rip corporate shills while having stock in Di$ney.

America's hypocrisy is why it is failing.
 
Handyman said:
Which means of course you purposefully don't read the comments by all the posters who acknowledge and rip that hypocrisy...

Not all of us rip corporate shills while having stock in Di$ney.

America's hypocrisy is why it is failing.
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Yeah, I get it. It's always dangerous to lump everyone together, although I don't think I'm alone here in that regard. That said, I find amusing the whole lament, "if I could just kill capitalism and corporations, and eliminate the need for my friends and I to work, we'd have so much more time to play video games together."
 
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