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The States: North Dakota is Still the Worst

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Vancouver is overrated. It is Seattle only with more Heroin ;)

Vancouver is overrated. Its Chinatown is not, and blows Seattle away (as well as San Francisco). Or at least, it used to.

The only thing New York is definitively "da best" at is American pizza, and even then it's only a handful of about a zillion joints. Plus, I'm sure New Haven would like a word.

New York can't even do bagels and pastrami better than Montreal (which are their real "best" foods, a couple notches above the incredibly overrated poutine).
 
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I’m disappointed. Don’t tell me you like the disgusting slop that is Chicago style?

Nope. I do like it, but it’s more of a hot dish than a pizza. ;)

Honestly, I like ****ty old Carbones. Reds Savoy is good too but it causes me serious gut rot.

NY is just bland to me.
 
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Chicago Style can be good, I feel like it’s mostly elitist dorks who hate on it and won’t give it a shot (that said if you can’t get over the excessive amounts of cheese or whatever I get it, people who grew up in WI like me injected it into our veins so we’re used to it).

That said the chains like Giordanos aren’t great so I basically only get it if I’m in Chicago. (Di Noko’s downtown Minneapolis was good but it closed).

I’ll also admit I don’t eat pizza all that often anymore other than Mesa which isn’t exactly traditional pizza.
 
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Campus Pizza. RIP. The best.

Actually, Ian’s in Madison is legitimately great when you’re drunk. That’s closer to NY style I suppose.

Also, I’ve been making my own at home and I’m getting much better.
 
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Y'all ain't gonna top Moose's Tooth in the pizza department so whatever.
 
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My general rule on foreign food (as in mom and pop shops, not fine cuisine restaurants) is that the less English they speak, the better the food. There are a few around where I live, and I love 'em.
 
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My general rule on foreign food (as in mom and pop shops, not fine cuisine restaurants) is that the less English they speak, the better the food. There are a few around where I live, and I love 'em.

100% correct.
The best Asian noodles I ever had were in a strip mall in Houston. It was the lunch destination for all the local Asian restaurant owners. You had to use the take out menu to order as that was the ONLY English translation in the whole restaurant and the wait staff's English vocabulary consisted of "Thank You". I tried once to get what the table next to me was having. I failed to get the same thing but it was still fantastic. Dirt cheap too.
 
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100% correct.
The best Asian noodles I ever had were in a strip mall in Houston. It was the lunch destination for all the local Asian restaurant owners. You had to use the take out menu to order as that was the ONLY English translation in the whole restaurant and the wait staff's English vocabulary consisted of "Thank You". I tried once to get what the table next to me was having. I failed to get the same thing but it was still fantastic. Dirt cheap too.

There is a Mexican place near me, and until they moved to a better location (and better ways to express their menu) half of it was in Spanish and no pictures of the food, and I don't speak Spanish. I could pronounce the words, but had no idea of what I was exactly getting. That being said, sopes are awesome. :) *

*family owned place, they get as much as they can locally, even closed on Sunday because Catholic/God rested on 7th day, not kidding.
 
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There is a Mexican place near me, and until they moved to a better location (and better ways to express their menu) half of it was in Spanish and no pictures of the food, and I don't speak Spanish. I could pronounce the words, but had no idea of what I was exactly getting. That being said, sopes are awesome. :) *

*family owned place, they get as much as they can locally, even closed on Sunday because Catholic/God rested on 7th day, not kidding.

I'd much rather eat in these types of establishments than any chain restaurant. My wife is the complete opposite. She rather go to the chains because "I know what I'm getting". I'd rather take the risk since the rewards are much greater and usually the downside is minimal.
 
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I’Don’t tell me you like the disgusting slop that is Chicago style?

*high five*

people who grew up in WI like me

Man, you have no idea how many discussions this either eliminates you from, or subjects you to serious ridicule on this board. :p

I stay out of the NY/Chiraq pizza wars, simply because I know Detroit-style Sicilian is the best. ;)

My general rule on foreign food (as in mom and pop shops, not fine cuisine restaurants) is that the less English they speak, the better the food.

100% true for sure. Best meal I had in Germany, I walked into some local bar in Munich and after going though the motions of "Haben Sie ein Englischer Spiesekarte?", "Nein", in the space of 2 hours they taught me the most German I learned in 10 days.
 
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And before someone like trix calls me out for hypocrisy, I don't consider Detroit-style "American pizza". It's definitely it's own thing. I guess there are some shops in NY that do squares, but they don't bake it like we do.
 
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Restaurant options in the TC have infinitely improved the past 20 years and I imagine even more so the past 4 years I've been away. There are still the chains and conglomerates, but plenty of other options across a wide spectrum are now available and it's been a chef-driven revival. this explains why.

FYI my wife was the GM for Patrick's Cafe for 3 years, for 2 years at Mt. Fuji, and consulted on menus with the owners of Amazing Thailand, and before that the King and I several years prior to their retirement.

Sad to see some former favorites have closed though including Bento Box and Krungthep Thai.
 
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You still have no idea what you're talking about, but since you were such a citizen of the world 20-25 years ago, you keep pretending old man. :D
 
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in mookie's 'top 5' pizza list is soho pizza on sukhumvit soi 11 in bangkok. just plain awesome. go figure
 
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"I wonder that you will still be talking, Signior Benedick. Nobody marks you."
 
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