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The States: Mad Scientist Laboratories of Democracy

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Recently, ads have airing against a state income tax here in Alaska. Who paid for them? Guess who?
 
Jimjamesak said:
Recently, ads have airing against a state income tax here in Alaska. Who paid for them? Guess who?
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Well he has a point about oil. The current price (and volume?) does not help the State treasury.

Once an income tax starts it is a license by the legislature to spend spend spend and tax some more.
 
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joecct said:
Well he has a point about oil. The current price (and volume?) does not help the State treasury.

Once an income tax starts it is a license by the legislature to spend spend spend and tax some more.
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It's also a license to actually pay for services the people have and don't want to lose. Like public universities.
 
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So if oil gets back to $100/bbl, does the State kill the income tax?
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Oil could jump to $500/bbl and it wouldn't make a difference. The fact is there's not enough oil being extracted, or to be extracted, to make any long term reliance on oil to be sustainable.
 
joecct said:
So if oil gets back to $100/bbl, does the State kill the income tax?
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That'd be up to Alaska and its residents. Judging by other states controlled by Republicans, though, they don't seem shy about eliminating taxes, whether it's reasonable to do so or not.
 
unofan said:
That'd be up to Alaska and its residents. Judging by other states controlled by Republicans, though, they don't seem shy about eliminating taxes, whether it's reasonable to do so or not.
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It's not exactly controlled by Republicans right now. The State Senate is fully controlled by the Rs but the State House is actually controlled by a coalition of Democrats and Moderate Republicans while our Governor is an Independent allied with Democrats.
 
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Interesting to speculate on...but of course, Cali leaving would never happen. Just sending Washington a message - which it won't hear.
 
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You guys are talking like you skipped class during the history lesson between 1861 and 1865. We already had a "disagreement" about this.
 
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Calexit won't happen. It's as ridiculous as the Texans who threaten to break away from the US every time the feds do something they don't like. Or the Quebecois who still support French-Canadian independence.
 
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bronconick said:
You guys are talking like you skipped class during the history lesson between 1861 and 1865. We already had a "disagreement" about this.
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the deplorables would be happy to get rid of California. The nutjobs in congress might go along with it, and do you think any of the red states would vote against kissing those libt@rds goodbye?
 
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BassAle said:
the deplorables would be happy to get rid of California. The nutjobs in congress might go along with it, and do you think any of the red states would vote against kissing those libt@rds goodbye?
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First, as liberal as Cal is...it would never get the kind of voter consensus to push anything through. If it got close, CA's business community (not insubstantial including SF and silicon valley) would not let it just happen. Even then, the federal government (and I believe including Trump) would not stand by as doubt that it would willingly let over 15% of its population and more of its economy just up and leave. There's also this little thing of history as already pointed out. With what's at stake a none existent likelihood of Texas leaving is probably even more likely than CA.
 
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