Because it's every state, red and blue and purple.
USCHO Fan Forum
This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
-
The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.
The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
- Thread starter MissThundercat
- Start date
- Status
Because it's every state, red and blue and purple.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Because the Ted Ooze dipsh-ts are "real" conservatives, unlike Dump?
Because the Ted Ooze dipsh-ts are "real" conservatives, unlike Dump?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
And every state has those busybodies.
But hey, maybe it's not that -- maybe it's an honest attempt to ascertain the truth by forthright and sincere debate.
And maybe Congress is that, too.
And every state has those busybodies.
But hey, maybe it's not that -- maybe it's an honest attempt to ascertain the truth by forthright and sincere debate.
And maybe Congress is that, too.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Special election tonight: its a flip in a Missouri House district that Trump won 61-33! Congratulations Mike! <a href="https://t.co/Gt9llvFIAv">https://t.co/Gt9llvFIAv</a></p>— Claire McCaskill (@clairecmc) <a href="https://twitter.com/clairecmc/status/961071222695047168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Special election tonight: its a flip in a Missouri House district that Trump won 61-33! Congratulations Mike! <a href="https://t.co/Gt9llvFIAv">https://t.co/Gt9llvFIAv</a></p>— Claire McCaskill (@clairecmc) <a href="https://twitter.com/clairecmc/status/961071222695047168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
I went looking to see if there was an Akin in the woodpile. It doesn't look like it. It looks... well, it looks like a harbinger. And not the only one tonight.
There's a long, long way to go and for all we know by November Dump will have declared martial law and the GOP legislatures will have canceled the elections, and our resident "conservatives" will be fine with it.
Anyway. It sure aint bad news.
I went looking to see if there was an Akin in the woodpile. It doesn't look like it. It looks... well, it looks like a harbinger. And not the only one tonight.
There's a long, long way to go and for all we know by November Dump will have declared martial law and the GOP legislatures will have canceled the elections, and our resident "conservatives" will be fine with it.
Anyway. It sure aint bad news.
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Less significant, but DFLers outdrew Republicans 2:1(edit: actually going to end up closer to 3:1) at precinct caucuses in Minnesota tonight. The straw polls for governor are fairly meaningless in general, and especially so in the case of the Republicans since their nominee wasn't on the ballot tonight. But if they're counting on this mayonnaise smoothie of a man to generate excitement, they've likely got a problem.
Less significant, but DFLers outdrew Republicans 2:1(edit: actually going to end up closer to 3:1) at precinct caucuses in Minnesota tonight. The straw polls for governor are fairly meaningless in general, and especially so in the case of the Republicans since their nominee wasn't on the ballot tonight. But if they're counting on this mayonnaise smoothie of a man to generate excitement, they've likely got a problem.
Last edited:
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Interesting results since one internet poll got tons of press showing Goopers on the upswing!
While past performance doesn't guarantee future results (sounds like something Chump would say to Melania) there's no substitute for actual voting. So far so good from the big (AL Senate, VA Gov) to the medium (VA state house elections) to the small (various state house and senate special elections) really in most places across the country so far.
Interesting results since one internet poll got tons of press showing Goopers on the upswing!
While past performance doesn't guarantee future results (sounds like something Chump would say to Melania) there's no substitute for actual voting. So far so good from the big (AL Senate, VA Gov) to the medium (VA state house elections) to the small (various state house and senate special elections) really in most places across the country so far.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
I have said it for months, the MNGOP doesnt have anyone that is going to win. Hell there are rumors TPaw might run again that is how bad it is for them. The MNGOP controls the Leg and has killed the surplus and destroyed everything Dayton has done (much like the GOP and Obama) only Minnesotans actually care about this stuff and the major cities are going Democrat and it wont be close.
I have said it for months, the MNGOP doesnt have anyone that is going to win. Hell there are rumors TPaw might run again that is how bad it is for them. The MNGOP controls the Leg and has killed the surplus and destroyed everything Dayton has done (much like the GOP and Obama) only Minnesotans actually care about this stuff and the major cities are going Democrat and it wont be close.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
There is a reason why Walker wont allow any special elections in WI right now...
There is a reason why Walker wont allow any special elections in WI right now...
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
The question that needs answering is why the legislature flipped back to the Republicans again after we got rid of them the first time? I can't figure it. I suppose you could blame Hillary being at the top of the ticket but Dayton got reelected pretty easily. All they do when they're in office is destroy the surplus, destroy the credit rating of the State, and pass abortion and gay marriage crap.
The question that needs answering is why the legislature flipped back to the Republicans again after we got rid of them the first time? I can't figure it. I suppose you could blame Hillary being at the top of the ticket but Dayton got reelected pretty easily. All they do when they're in office is destroy the surplus, destroy the credit rating of the State, and pass abortion and gay marriage crap.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
It could be a very good environment for us as we slouch towards our November Bethlehem... but that's all it is. The Red Zone means nothing if you don’t score. We do have some systemic advantages this time: fatigue with everything Republican, reflexive anger at the status quo now directed firmly at the GOP. Dump's promises are now policies which is bound to deflate much of the "take a flier on him" support since Joe Six Pack's life is not MAGAraculously perfect now. Those folks won't be voting for us but they may just roll over and go back to sleep on election day.
I don't have any handle at all on which faction is actually running the DCCC and DSCC these days. I assume there are still a lot of residual Clintonistas, retired in place, but presumably they're plowing through the day to day chores as good Dem soldiers now that the link back to the Mothership has been severed. Still, I don't see a lot of proactive help coming from there. It's mostly going to be on the state and local party organizations, and those are all over the map.
This vacuum cries out to be filled by grassroots activists, Netroots, and recruiting groups that have spun out of MoveOn, Our Revolution, EMILY’s List, Indivisible, etc. Hopefully those independent-minded, guerrilla, DIY platoons have some Spirit of ‘76 magic in them.
I have great hope for November. I think we can take back both chambers, freeze Dump in his tracks, and then turn our attention to retaking the White House in 2020 and quickly and methodically erasing the entire Anti-Presidency and, with enough will, as much as of the post-1980 Plutocratic Mistake as possible. But this will require youth — A TSUNAMI OF IT -- and an exhaustive repudiation of the “not in the face!” passivity of the last 40 years of Democratic governance. We should recognize those folks did the best they could with what their situations offered them, erect their Marble Statues, and then forget them.
Nobody over 40 today will have any dynamic role to play in the changes that are coming except to provide a comforting hood ornament of familiarity to older lofo voters or greasing the levers of The Art of the Possible behind the scenes to suck funding from our elderly rich brethren. We Olds are all as hopelessly oblivious to what is coming as dinosaurs staring dully at the coming meteor, and trapped in the amber of concerns that have no bearing on the generations now rising. Our Driving Passions and Vital Issues from the 90s and even the 00s are, or will soon be, as obsolete as bi-metalism and canal tariffs. We can help build a world we want our grandkids to live in by… stepping aside and letting them do that building. We have the money but they have the ideas, and the flexibility to change their course as needed.
And after all, it will be their world; they should be the ones to sculpt it. We can do most by leading least.
Interesting results since one internet poll got tons of press showing Goopers on the upswing!
It could be a very good environment for us as we slouch towards our November Bethlehem... but that's all it is. The Red Zone means nothing if you don’t score. We do have some systemic advantages this time: fatigue with everything Republican, reflexive anger at the status quo now directed firmly at the GOP. Dump's promises are now policies which is bound to deflate much of the "take a flier on him" support since Joe Six Pack's life is not MAGAraculously perfect now. Those folks won't be voting for us but they may just roll over and go back to sleep on election day.
I don't have any handle at all on which faction is actually running the DCCC and DSCC these days. I assume there are still a lot of residual Clintonistas, retired in place, but presumably they're plowing through the day to day chores as good Dem soldiers now that the link back to the Mothership has been severed. Still, I don't see a lot of proactive help coming from there. It's mostly going to be on the state and local party organizations, and those are all over the map.
This vacuum cries out to be filled by grassroots activists, Netroots, and recruiting groups that have spun out of MoveOn, Our Revolution, EMILY’s List, Indivisible, etc. Hopefully those independent-minded, guerrilla, DIY platoons have some Spirit of ‘76 magic in them.
I have great hope for November. I think we can take back both chambers, freeze Dump in his tracks, and then turn our attention to retaking the White House in 2020 and quickly and methodically erasing the entire Anti-Presidency and, with enough will, as much as of the post-1980 Plutocratic Mistake as possible. But this will require youth — A TSUNAMI OF IT -- and an exhaustive repudiation of the “not in the face!” passivity of the last 40 years of Democratic governance. We should recognize those folks did the best they could with what their situations offered them, erect their Marble Statues, and then forget them.
Nobody over 40 today will have any dynamic role to play in the changes that are coming except to provide a comforting hood ornament of familiarity to older lofo voters or greasing the levers of The Art of the Possible behind the scenes to suck funding from our elderly rich brethren. We Olds are all as hopelessly oblivious to what is coming as dinosaurs staring dully at the coming meteor, and trapped in the amber of concerns that have no bearing on the generations now rising. Our Driving Passions and Vital Issues from the 90s and even the 00s are, or will soon be, as obsolete as bi-metalism and canal tariffs. We can help build a world we want our grandkids to live in by… stepping aside and letting them do that building. We have the money but they have the ideas, and the flexibility to change their course as needed.
And after all, it will be their world; they should be the ones to sculpt it. We can do most by leading least.
Last edited:
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Well part of it is that the Iron Range bought the rhetoric and flipped. A lot of people out of work and they blamed the Dems for that. Ironically it was the Dems that gave them unemployment and health care which now are in danger so we will see if they learned anything. (I have read stories both ways)
The Leg is always going to flow back and forth because small amounts of votes can have huge impact in local elections. Plus people have short memories...
Well part of it is that the Iron Range bought the rhetoric and flipped. A lot of people out of work and they blamed the Dems for that. Ironically it was the Dems that gave them unemployment and health care which now are in danger so we will see if they learned anything. (I have read stories both ways)
The Leg is always going to flow back and forth because small amounts of votes can have huge impact in local elections. Plus people have short memories...
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
So, the Republicans were going to employ them then? That's what they thought? Interesting mentality. We've had lots of tax cuts over the years and I doubt a single one of them got a job because of one.
So, the Republicans were going to employ them then? That's what they thought? Interesting mentality. We've had lots of tax cuts over the years and I doubt a single one of them got a job because of one.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
What's the famous quote, "the one thing a man will never forgive is showing him charity"?
Leave them to their resentment. They are lost.
What's the famous quote, "the one thing a man will never forgive is showing him charity"?
Leave them to their resentment. They are lost.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
If the gubmint will let them drag the brownies through the street behind their trucks their jobs will come back.
Get with the program.
If the gubmint will let them drag the brownies through the street behind their trucks their jobs will come back.
Get with the program.
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
Minny was really odd last year in that Dems mostly sat out the election (again, Trump got almost the same votes as Mittens, but came within a point or two while Romney lost the state by like 7 points), but for some reason they showed up for the incumbent Dem Congressmen running for re-election. I recall one of the challengers saying he couldn't believe Trump won the district by double digits but he still lost his race. This is unlike almost everywhere else where Clinton ran ahead of downballot Dems in swing districts and Senate seats hence the 24 GOP Congresscritters sitting in Hillary won districts.
Kep the DNC, RNC etc etc have no real function anymore except to raise money and handle logistics during the primaries, such as scheduling debates and putting together the convention (which is useless in of itself). Chump officially killed the national party apparatus with his victory. What the party stands for is not going to be solved by these organizations. The primaries will do that - the question remains if one faction doesn't get everything it wants does it decide to sit out/vote Trump again in 2020? Don't know the answer to that one...
Minny was really odd last year in that Dems mostly sat out the election (again, Trump got almost the same votes as Mittens, but came within a point or two while Romney lost the state by like 7 points), but for some reason they showed up for the incumbent Dem Congressmen running for re-election. I recall one of the challengers saying he couldn't believe Trump won the district by double digits but he still lost his race. This is unlike almost everywhere else where Clinton ran ahead of downballot Dems in swing districts and Senate seats hence the 24 GOP Congresscritters sitting in Hillary won districts.
Kep the DNC, RNC etc etc have no real function anymore except to raise money and handle logistics during the primaries, such as scheduling debates and putting together the convention (which is useless in of itself). Chump officially killed the national party apparatus with his victory. What the party stands for is not going to be solved by these organizations. The primaries will do that - the question remains if one faction doesn't get everything it wants does it decide to sit out/vote Trump again in 2020? Don't know the answer to that one...
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...
It appears that's the dynamic. If your dreams aren't realized after getting your party in power you go pout in the corner and not bother voting. What a bunch of babies this country has become.
It appears that's the dynamic. If your dreams aren't realized after getting your party in power you go pout in the corner and not bother voting. What a bunch of babies this country has become.
- Status