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The NFL Thread (cont'd)

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On the commercial front, how did Eminem become popular again? On a related note, what in the world was Chrysler doing spending $9m on that commercial?

I had the same thought. Then I realized his popularity is probably the same as Chrysler's, so it all made sense. :)
 
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On the commercial front, how did Eminem become popular again?
Eminem had a 2002 album that sold 10 million copies, a 2004 album that sold 5 million copies, a 2009 album that sold 2 million copies, and a 2010 album that sold 3 million copies, all just in domestic sales. (Each double that many or more counting foreign sales.) When exactly are you saying he wasn't popular for him to have become popular again? :confused:
 
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Eminem had a 2002 album that sold 10 million copies, a 2004 album that sold 5 million copies, a 2009 album that sold 2 million copies, and a 2010 album that sold 3 million copies, all just in domestic sales. (Each double that many or more counting foreign sales.) When exactly are you saying he wasn't popular for him to have become popular again? :confused:

I didn't realize he had that 2010 album. I thought he had kind of faded away around 2008 sometime.
 
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Ric Flair? :confused:
Its from a local radio show. When they talk about someone who is irrelevant, like a long reliever for the Twins, Vikings special teamer, anyone who plays for the Timberwolves, they have a sounder that says "WHO?" fairly loudly. I was saying it because whoever I posted mentioned some trophy I'd never heard of from a league I'd never heard of.
 
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Its from a local radio show. When they talk about someone who is irrelevant, like a long reliever for the Twins, Vikings special teamer, anyone who plays for the Timberwolves, they have a sounder that says "WHO?" fairly loudly. I was saying it because whoever I posted mentioned some trophy I'd never heard of from a league I'd never heard of.
because it has to do with soccer ;)
 
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Eminem had a 2002 album that sold 10 million copies, a 2004 album that sold 5 million copies, a 2009 album that sold 2 million copies, and a 2010 album that sold 3 million copies, all just in domestic sales. (Each double that many or more counting foreign sales.) When exactly are you saying he wasn't popular for him to have become popular again? :confused:

Mmm ... you sort of undercut your argument using numbers showing a largely downward trajectory of record sales between 2002 and 2010. Not to say that selling millions of CDs in a given year doesn't make an artist "popular" at some level. Then again, I presume that many of his 2002 fans may already be Chrysler customers. ;)
 
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Mmm ... you sort of undercut your argument using numbers showing a largely downward trajectory of record sales between 2002 and 2010. Not to say that selling millions of CDs in a given year doesn't make an artist "popular" at some level. Then again, I presume that many of his 2002 fans may already be Chrysler customers. ;)
I suppose so, but that's still a ****load of albums, and the sales of the 2009 album were probably cannibalized, to an extent, but the release of the 2010 album not that long afterward.
 
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I thought that the Chrysler/white rapper commercial was different. It wasn't like a normal commercial that says "hey buy Coke, because we taste better than Pepsi!" it was more subtlely saying, "We're Detroit, and we've had tough times, but we're not going anywhere. We'll be back stronger than ever". It came off as more a proclamation from Chrysler, as a representative of Detroit as a whole, that the city is on its way back. Does that commercial make you say "I want to buy a Chrysler 300!"...No, does it make you say "Hmm, maybe Detroit still has some fight in them, I wonder what they've got planned"? Probably.
 
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I thought that the Chrysler/white rapper commercial was different. It wasn't like a normal commercial that says "hey buy Coke, because we taste better than Pepsi!" it was more subtlely saying, "We're Detroit, and we've had tough times, but we're not going anywhere. We'll be back stronger than ever". It came off as more a proclamation from Chrysler, as a representative of Detroit as a whole, that the city is on its way back. Does that commercial make you say "I want to buy a Chrysler 300!"...No, does it make you say "Hmm, maybe Detroit still has some fight in them, I wonder what they've got planned"? Probably.

Sure. Next year, Chrysler will have Mini-Me give a tour of Sterling Heights in a new Fiat. ;)
 
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How did he become popular in the first place?

There was a time when he was the only thing in popular music with any originality, intelligence, or humor but that time ended six years ago. It was kinda sad to see him hawking cars. What if Lenny Bruce wound up working for Goldman Sachs? But hey, guy knows when it's time to cash in.

Very NSFW:

 
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Mmm ... you sort of undercut your argument using numbers showing a largely downward trajectory of record sales between 2002 and 2010. Not to say that selling millions of CDs in a given year doesn't make an artist "popular" at some level. Then again, I presume that many of his 2002 fans may already be Chrysler customers. ;)

It's not on a decline at all if you factor in the total rate of CD sales.
 
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I thought that the Chrysler/white rapper commercial was different. It wasn't like a normal commercial that says "hey buy Coke, because we taste better than Pepsi!" it was more subtlely saying, "We're Detroit, and we've had tough times, but we're not going anywhere. We'll be back stronger than ever". It came off as more a proclamation from Chrysler, as a representative of Detroit as a whole, that the city is on its way back. Does that commercial make you say "I want to buy a Chrysler 300!"...No, does it make you say "Hmm, maybe Detroit still has some fight in them, I wonder what they've got planned"? Probably.

I agree with you. I didn't think it was that bad. I kinda liked it. What I believe was lost on quite a bit of the audience, was that Eminem grew up in Detroit.
 
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I agree with you. I didn't think it was that bad. I kinda liked it. What I believe was lost on quite a bit of the audience, was that Eminem grew up in Detroit.
I agree, its hard to say he sold out for that commercial in any way when he's seen the best and worst Detroit has to offer and is "Imported from Detroit" himself.
 
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I agree with you. I didn't think it was that bad. I kinda liked it. What I believe was lost on quite a bit of the audience, was that Eminem grew up in Detroit.

Yeah, but did it have to be that long? For me, the point was as effectively made in 30 seconds as it was in however long it stretched out for.
 
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I agree, its hard to say he sold out for that commercial in any way when he's seen the best and worst Detroit has to offer and is "Imported from Detroit" himself.

Yeah, unless you've seen 8 Mile or know Eminem's background, the viewer wouldn't get that. Which is unfortunate because I think it really is an important aspect of the commercial.

Yeah, but did it have to be that long? For me, the point was as effectively made in 30 seconds as it was in however long it stretched out for.

Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. I thought it was a bit too long as well.
 
I suppose so, but that's still a ****load of albums, and the sales of the 2009 album were probably cannibalized, to an extent, but the release of the 2010 album not that long afterward.
Plus Slim Shady does represent a lot of downloads on iTunes as well.
 
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