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The New WCHA (2013-14)

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Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

Let's just go all out Minnesota. Big Ten at the X, NCHC at Target Center, WCHA at Mariucci HAHAHAHA
 
Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

Pardon the misspelling of names, and I took the um's, uh's, and stutters out.

Gwoz and Moose: [Banter about WCHA play so far this season, DU's struggles]
Gwoz and Moose: [Banter about DU's trip to Bemidji a month ago...]
Gwoz: [Raves about the new facility, personal tour by BSU coach Tom Serratore, How BSU is becoming a strong program]
Moose: I wanna turn it around a little bit here after heaping some praise on what Bemidji State has done; Why did Denver University decide to leave BSU behind and move on to the new conference, the NCHC, as you guys made the decision now about six, seven months ago.
Gwoz: Well, you know, that's a question that's been asked of our administrators a lot, and rather than having to go into a long list of reasons and considerations all I can say is, to be able to keep this interview fairly short, is that this was something that I know that our administrators not only from our school but from other schools had been looking into for a number of years. For a number of reasons it came to a head about a year and a half ago and serious discussions began at that time. And so. As to the reasons, there is a whole list, I won't bore you, I won't go into a long reading of the list, but certainly it was a very serious discussion and to be able to, or to have, or to leave a league like the WCHA that we have been a member of for over 50 years, that has been a great home for us, was a very difficult decision, and yet for many reasons it was the decision that was decided by our administrators as the best one available.
Moose: In your opinion, is it a fair assessment that since the WCHA was actively pursing Notre Dame and Miami this past offseason that fans from Bemidji State, Alaska Anchorage, Mankato, Michigan Tech kinda get the feeling that they were kicked out of the league rather than the other way around?
Gwoz: Well, I don't know how they... Anybody can view a change anyway they want to. Certainly, that, I don't think that was the intent of anybody in making the decision they did. And so, but people can feel the way they want to, about that.
Moose: The reason I bring this up with you is that you seem to be one of the, the spokesman, the conference put out a video which you were featured prominently in right after the creation of the NCHC. A term that came out was "Like Minded Institutions," and I guess the question there is, in your opinion, how do you think those four teams are different from say a St. Cloud State or a Minnesota Duluth which were invited to the NCHC?
Gwoz: Well, you know the only thing I will say is this had nothing to do with on-ice performance. [pause] You know, this had nothing to do with, you know, what team is more competitive one year versus the next year. It had nothing to do with on-ice performance, it had nothing to do, as far as I know from the administration, it had nothing to do with who's a better coach, who's got better team from one year to the next, who has better players, or anything like that. It was more about as the schools that were a part of this group said that, "Like Minded Institutions." And you can take it for what you will.
Moose: [Pause] In your recent trip here to Bemidji you felt that they demonstrated a high commitment to hockey, the new facility is very high class. Does BSU, or what do you think BSU doesn't have that would fit with that "Like Minded" mentality.
Gwoz: Well you know, Moose, I'll be really honest with you. Not that I want to avoid answering your question, but you know, both BSU and Denver have a really big series coming up this weekend. And what's happening a year and a ... what is gonna be happening this weekend. We look at what, how Walsh has played in net for them. And how well George is playing, and Walters is playing, and Bradey Hunt. We've got our hands full with a very good team that continues to get better and better. We're a team that is trying to figure out how do we need to play to be more successful. We're hoping to get a couple more guys back into the lineup this weekend. This is a huge, huge weekend for us, and I would assume, for the Beavers as well. So to waste time talking about what is happening a year or two from now, I think, is really not going to do anything for the build up of this coming series.
Moose: Well, unfortunately, I don't get an opportunity to talk to you on a regular basis, so this was my chance. I appreciate you do taking the time to answer my questions. Good luck against BSU, George, and if we have the opportunity to talk in the playoffs hopefully we get another chance to talk.
Gwoz: I look forward to that. Thanks.
Moose: George Gwozdecky, Head Coach of the Denver Pioneers, as BSU on the road this weekend. We'll come back, wrap up the program in a moment. Next on the BUN. And online of course and KBUNam.com
[Music Interlude]
Co-Host: Welcome Back. College Hockey Tonight. KBUN Sports Radio AM 1450 and on KBUNam.com. So you can rewind and make sure you heard that correctly out of George Gwozdecky, dancing around Moose's, well definitely, last question there. My goodness 'Let's not talk about what's happening a year and a half from now Moose.' Well, I think it's an opportunity, I know he was up here, and, he. [pause] And I know Moose you weren't trying to set him up, I know it was your intention to eventually ask him about it, but he just happened to praise Bemidji State, and the community and town, and the rink, and everything else. And then it was time to ask him, so that sometimes that just happens when your interviewing. I get it. But, I don't know if we really got an answer there.
Moose: We didn't.
Co-Host: No, Basically he just skirted around the discussion like we've heard so many times in the past. Look, to lay it out simply, as it stands right now, the former WCHA which will be in a year and a half's time, like you said, Tech, Alaska, Mankato, and Bemidji are being replaced by Miami of Ohio and Western Michigan. That's the simple math of it.
Moose: Right, the most frustrating part of that interview, right when he got very upset. I shouldn't say upset.
Co-Host: No, he was very professional about it.
Moose: He was very professional about it. Right when he turned the discussion back to this weekend, the comment he made was 'who care's about what's happening a year and a half from now,' and the one follow up question I wanted to ask...
Co-Host: To be fair, it's on the spot and he's trying to find his way out of it and just move on.
Moose: Right, but the one follow up question to that that I would have liked to have asked ... was 'Maybe Denver doesn't care because they feel like they're in a very comfortable position but Bemidji State was thrown into upheaval, put into a, at the time five team conference needing to find additional members to save the WCHA. There is concern about attendance here in town. Yeah, frankly, we care in Bemidji.
Co-Host: It comes off as elitist and self-centered. It does.
Moose: Absolutely it does.
Co-Host: And North Dakota and Denver were at the heart of this thing.
Moose: Exactly. And that's why I said, "You have been, George, one of the feature players in this. There was a video put out on YouTube about 'This is the NCHC, look how great we are' and George was featured predominately in that video. So yeah, that was the one follow up question that if I would have been able I would have liked to have asked.
Co-Host and Moose: [Banter about WCHA and NCHC]
Thanks for posting the show, Moose and Scott Williams do a good job.
 
Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

Las Vegas, it is. Grand Garden Arena is a callin'!!!!!
That would be amazing.

Does the MGM Garden have an ice plant?

Orleans Arena seats 7,700 for ice hockey. Would need to schedule around the Las Vegas Wranglers though.

As for "tourist venues" like Chicago and Vegas, what about St. Louis (Scottrade)? Dallas (American Airlines Arena)? Houston (Toyota Center)? San Antonio (AT&T Center)? Kansas City Missouri (Sprint Center)? Oklahoma City (Chesapeake Energy Arena/Cox Convention Center)?
 
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That would be amazing.

Orleans Arena seats 7,700 for ice hockey. Would need to schedule around the Las Vegas Wranglers though.

Not to mention a sports betting frenzy with the first rounds of the NCAA Basketball tourney....
 
Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

That would be amazing.

Does the MGM Garden have an ice plant?

Orleans Arena seats 7,700 for ice hockey. Would need to schedule around the Las Vegas Wranglers though.

As for "tourist venues" like Chicago and Vegas, what about St. Louis (Scottrade)? Dallas (American Airlines Arena)? Houston (Toyota Center)? San Antonio (AT&T Center)? Kansas City Missouri (Sprint Center)? Oklahoma City (Chesapeake Energy Arena/Cox Convention Center)?
Grand Garden does have an ice plant. They have hosted Kings pre-season games in the past.
 
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Co-Host: And North Dakota and Denver were at the heart of this thing.

The funny part is some of their fans still believe they were not at the hear of it. From a Minnesota perspective the ironic thing is neither school will see many NC games against the Gophers. I bet DU only plays the Gophers in NCAA play and UND faces off against the Gophers three times in a decade. I will miss the rivalries against both schools but I am in the camp of first helping the other Minnesota schools with scheduling games against the Gophers either home or on the road.
 
Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

some interesting demographic information.

School Students Community Notes

MSU/Mankato 19,000 55,000 County population

FSU- 13,000 55000/800,000 County/ GR metro , FSU is 55 miles from GR.

LSSU 3000 80,000 Includes Soo Canada

MTU 7500 35,000 County population

NMU 9000 67,000 County population

BSU 5000 30,000 County population

BGSU 6500/19000 19000/650,000 Town/Metro Toledo. BG is 22 miles from Toledo

UAA 16000 290,000 City population

UAF 9000 97,000 metro area population

Feel free to correct any mistakes. I'm trying to get a feel for just what size area the schools draw from locally. BG has 6500 students in residence but a total of 19000 all in. For instance MTU population is for Houghton county only, though they most likely draw from more than one county.
 
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Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

some interesting demographic information.

School Students Community Notes

MSU/Mankato 19,000 55,000 County population

FSU- 13,000 55000/800,000 County/ GR metro , FSU is 55 miles from GR.

LSSU 3000 80,000 Includes Soo Canada

MTU 7500 35,000 County population

NMU 9000 37,000 County population

BSU 5000 30,000 County population

BGSU 6500/19000 19000/650,000 Town/Metro Toledo. BG is 22 miles from Toledo

UAA 16000 290,000 City population

UAF 9000 55,000 City population

Feel free to correct any mistakes. I'm trying to get a feel for just what size area the schools draw from locally. BG has 6500 students in residence but a total of 19000 all in. For instance MTU population is for Houghton county only, though they most likely draw from more than one county.
Marquette County has 67,000+ in population as of 2010.
 
Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

Marquette County has 67,000+ in population as of 2010.
Fixed, thanks. I guess the purpose of this is to kind of give the other teams fans a feel for what will be the deal. I know there were a number of surprises putting it together. We are not all out in the sticks really, ( well except maybe Bemidji.) And people in the rest of the world don't how much interest there is in hockey in Minnesota. I mean the local pbs station broadcasts BSU games, I'd like to see that done in Ohio.
 
Fairbanks area-wide is about 97,000 now. Not sure where 55,000 came from.

some interesting demographic information.

School Students Community Notes

MSU/Mankato 19,000 55,000 County population

FSU- 13,000 55000/800,000 County/ GR metro , FSU is 55 miles from GR.

LSSU 3000 80,000 Includes Soo Canada

MTU 7500 35,000 County population

NMU 9000 67,000 County population

BSU 5000 30,000 County population

BGSU 6500/19000 19000/650,000 Town/Metro Toledo. BG is 22 miles from Toledo

UAA 16000 290,000 City population

UAF 9000 55,000 City population

Feel free to correct any mistakes. I'm trying to get a feel for just what size area the schools draw from locally. BG has 6500 students in residence but a total of 19000 all in. For instance MTU population is for Houghton county only, though they most likely draw from more than one county.
 
Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

So based on population UAA should hold the WCHA Final 5! ;) IMO, it is the most scenic area of all the schools in the conference. Well it is not even a contest.
 
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I agree that Duluth and Amsoil would be great hosts, but will UMD allow them to do it?

I know this is me being bitter, but I would be really annoyed that UMD could be part of the group that left us high and dry and then still benefit from the revenues coming from our league. I understand that it MIGHT be a good solution, but I would have to bite the bullet with that kind of solution.
 
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I don't think it is. The last number I heard was around 15,000.

Yeah, it's closer to 15,000 at a specific time. I think it gets closer to 19,000 students served during the course of a year (ie students that graduate/start at the semester break, non-traditional students, etc). Even that seems a little bit high.

From a population perspective, 55K is probably a bit misleading due to Mankato and North Mankato being right on the county border (as well as being the "micropolis" in southern MN).

As for the idea of where, I do actually like the idea of Minneapolis on the non-Big Ten years. If the Big Ten is there, it doesn't matter as attendance will be low. I think you could fill the stands with a good chunk of Gopher fans. Other than that, I don't think Chicago is a real good option as there isn't really a college hockey base there. Detroit has proven they won't support college hockey even with the big schools like MI and MSU involved. Green Bay would be a stretch but a possibility. I kind of like the idea of awarding it to the previous year's champion, but that could be really tough if the Alaska schools win. There really isn't a good option in my mind.
 
Re: The New WCHA (2013-14)

I just listened to the College Hockey Tonight and wow! That was another great show by Scott and Moose. I think Gwoz didn't expect Moose to ask him the questions.
 
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