Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
And probably grabs their choice of teams on the way out the door.
And probably grabs their choice of teams on the way out the door.
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The new Super League is going down the tubes.
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
The Big East can give ND an ultimatum...what's more powerful than that? I didn't say ND football would actually join the BE if given an ultimatum.
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They probably could do that. But the Big East is a "basketball 1st" conference.
Shirtless Guy
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But its an ultimatum with no teeth, no backbone...Notre Dame is part of the Big East because they suck so bad that they can't force ND to join in Football. If I buy a hot chick drinks all night at the bar, and she barely talks to me...and then I say, F me the bathroom or no more free drinks, she laughs in my face and finds someone else to buy her drinks...I had no power in that situation.
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willythekid
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
maybe you are not getting laid because you are so whiny...
maybe you are not getting laid because you are so whiny...
Shirtless Guy
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not an example of my reality 
Just an example...maybe you are not getting laid because you are so whiny...
not an example of my reality willythekid
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Re: The new Super League is going down the tubes.
good to hear... never know with tech fans.
Just an example...
good to hear... never know with tech fans.
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Again, I never said the Big East can force ND football to join the conference. This has noting to do with the skill level of BE football v ND football. And it definitely has nothing to do with you having sex in a bathroom.
How can you not understand this scenario? All the Big East has to do is issue an ultimatum, and ND MUST make their decision. (that's power btw)
Again, I never said the Big East can force ND football to join the conference. This has noting to do with the skill level of BE football v ND football. And it definitely has nothing to do with you having sex in a bathroom.
Shirtless Guy
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The reason you know it wasn't true is it involved a tech fan and a hot chickgood to hear... never know with tech fans.
bigblue_dl
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You are the one that doesn't understand. Real power is being about to say "**** you" when given an ultimatum and be no worse off. Notre Dame would be no worse off in the Big 10 than they are right now. I could give you an ultimatum right now, "give me $100 or I'll never respond to your posts again", its a pretty **** easy decision to tell me to **** off, how do I have any power whatsoever?
dggoddard
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Secondly, the Big East is under siege with Pittsburgh, Notre Dame and Syracuse "in play."
Thirdly, Notre Dame will never give up the NBC/BCS payday unless a massive offer of epic proportions comes along. Even then, the push back from alumni may not be worth it.
Notre Dame may just be posturing with the Big Ten to get a bigger payday from NBC & Notre Dame Network.
Firstly the Big East can't just issue ultimatums. They have to hold votes and adhere the league by-laws.
Secondly, the Big East is under siege with Pittsburgh, Notre Dame and Syracuse "in play."
Thirdly, Notre Dame will never give up the NBC/BCS payday unless a massive offer of epic proportions comes along. Even then, the push back from alumni may not be worth it.
Notre Dame may just be posturing with the Big Ten to get a bigger payday from NBC & Notre Dame Network.
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scsutommyboy
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Ok think of it this way. The woman says no so you move on to the next chic and keep doing it until you find the whore you are looking for. you know why you do that? Because you can. you have enough money to keep buying drinks until you find the right siuation. The big East already makes tons of money due to basketball and NotreDame brings very little in that sport. The Big East does have power because if Notre Dame leaves they find another school to take their place. The only value Notre Dame has is in Football. Why not push them to join or get out. they are not losing anything by them leaving, but if for some chance they stay in football you just got laid.....
Ok think of it this way. The woman says no so you move on to the next chic and keep doing it until you find the whore you are looking for. you know why you do that? Because you can. you have enough money to keep buying drinks until you find the right siuation. The big East already makes tons of money due to basketball and NotreDame brings very little in that sport. The Big East does have power because if Notre Dame leaves they find another school to take their place. The only value Notre Dame has is in Football. Why not push them to join or get out. they are not losing anything by them leaving, but if for some chance they stay in football you just got laid.....
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But they might lose Pitt and/or Syracuse in the deal.
And the Big East doesn't have an endless amount of cash. Notre Dame, on the other hand...
But they might lose Pitt and/or Syracuse in the deal.
And the Big East doesn't have an endless amount of cash. Notre Dame, on the other hand...
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I don't think so. The word is if Notre Dame comes into the conference they will have a second BTN channel and a third one if Texas joins with their LHN.
I don't think so. The word is if Notre Dame comes into the conference they will have a second BTN channel and a third one if Texas joins with their LHN.
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The Big East has much less actual power than you think in this scenario. The only way the league comes out of that scenario with a win is if Notre Dame actually accepts.
The way I see it, the "A scenario" is like this, wherein Notre Dame values most highly its football independence.
1) The Big East tells Notre Dame to GTFO.
2) Notre Dame hitches its basketball to the A-10, Horizon, or other Northeast Quadrant basketball conference for its olympics (or, potentially builds its own), remaining Independent in football.
3) The Big East potentially loses its contract with the Champs Sports Bowl at the next round of negotiations, and further drops the league's stature in the football world.
Everybody loses something in that scenario, but the Big East loses far more.
Even worse is the B scenario, in which Notre Dame feels it needs to be in a conference for the future:
1) The Big East tells Notre Dame to GTFO.
2) Notre Dame does, scrambles off to the Big Ten, and takes 3 Big East friends along with them (most likely Pitt*, Syracuse, and UConn if Notre Dame makes the call, and swap Pitt for Rutgers if the Big Ten does).
3) The Big East loses three teams in football, and two to three of its best basketball programs. Anyone the Big Ten doesn't get, the ACC might be willing to scoop up (any one of Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn, Pitt and WVU are in play there). The league's as good as dead now that they're down anywhere from three to five members, and they have practically no hope of retaining their BCS spot. The hoops league might still maintain major league status, but without Pitt, 'Cuse and UConn, they're down a LOT.
*Pitt looks like a good candidate for the Big Ten, but it duplicates a market, and doesn't provide the league any further inroads into New York. I'd say Pitt is about a 50/50 chance on their own, but a virtual guarantee if Notre Dame has any say in the matter.
The Big East has much less actual power than you think in this scenario. The only way the league comes out of that scenario with a win is if Notre Dame actually accepts.
The way I see it, the "A scenario" is like this, wherein Notre Dame values most highly its football independence.
1) The Big East tells Notre Dame to GTFO.
2) Notre Dame hitches its basketball to the A-10, Horizon, or other Northeast Quadrant basketball conference for its olympics (or, potentially builds its own), remaining Independent in football.
3) The Big East potentially loses its contract with the Champs Sports Bowl at the next round of negotiations, and further drops the league's stature in the football world.
Everybody loses something in that scenario, but the Big East loses far more.
Even worse is the B scenario, in which Notre Dame feels it needs to be in a conference for the future:
1) The Big East tells Notre Dame to GTFO.
2) Notre Dame does, scrambles off to the Big Ten, and takes 3 Big East friends along with them (most likely Pitt*, Syracuse, and UConn if Notre Dame makes the call, and swap Pitt for Rutgers if the Big Ten does).
3) The Big East loses three teams in football, and two to three of its best basketball programs. Anyone the Big Ten doesn't get, the ACC might be willing to scoop up (any one of Rutgers, Syracuse, UConn, Pitt and WVU are in play there). The league's as good as dead now that they're down anywhere from three to five members, and they have practically no hope of retaining their BCS spot. The hoops league might still maintain major league status, but without Pitt, 'Cuse and UConn, they're down a LOT.
*Pitt looks like a good candidate for the Big Ten, but it duplicates a market, and doesn't provide the league any further inroads into New York. I'd say Pitt is about a 50/50 chance on their own, but a virtual guarantee if Notre Dame has any say in the matter.
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DG, I am beginning to think that this isn't just posturing either, it's all over the internet. I think this is why BGSU and WMU haven't joined the WCHA yet either.
DG, I am beginning to think that this isn't just posturing either, it's all over the internet. I think this is why BGSU and WMU haven't joined the WCHA yet either.
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I already have a whole bunch of Big Ten alternate channels on my cable. Only one BTN is in Hi-Def, but I think there are 4 or 5 standard def digital B1G channels.
MUhawks628
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But just think how exciting the BTNorthwestern channel would be!
But just think how exciting the BTNorthwestern channel would be!
scsutommyboy
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If they feel they might lose those schools then obviously they wouldn't want to play that card.....
If they feel they might lose those schools then obviously they wouldn't want to play that card.....
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Yes, another reason Notre Dame will come to the Big Ten is their sub-par tv contract with NBC. TV revenues are spread out evenly in the Big Ten. If Notre Dame were to join, they would triple the amount that NBC pays them. Yes, even lowly Minnesota makes more money from their tv contract than Notre Dame gets from NBC. Notre Dame won't get more money from NBC because the other college footbal broadcasts are kicking NBC's ***!
Yes, another reason Notre Dame will come to the Big Ten is their sub-par tv contract with NBC. TV revenues are spread out evenly in the Big Ten. If Notre Dame were to join, they would triple the amount that NBC pays them. Yes, even lowly Minnesota makes more money from their tv contract than Notre Dame gets from NBC. Notre Dame won't get more money from NBC because the other college footbal broadcasts are kicking NBC's ***!
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