The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Honest to god I’m so sick of hearing men’s opinions on this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If a 12 year old is raped by her father and the father takes her to get an abortion, the evidence of the crime will be destroyed and he will go on molesting his victim for years. If however the child is born, his crime will be discovered and she will be rescued from the abuse. <a href="https://t.co/emV8tJifWE">https://t.co/emV8tJifWE</a></p>— Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1128735398157594626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 15, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is why I generally refuse to discuss this topic with anyone in real life, and I actually have quite a few hashtags and words related to it on mute from my Tweeter Machine feed. Too many a55holes and they all stink. I will say though, Walsh probably thinks he's being funny when he puts "Theocratic Fascist" in his bio, but he definitely seems like he really is one.

 

[Handyman]

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You want to know how bad the Alabama law is:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Televangelist Pat Robertson says Alabama's abortion law is "extreme" and that Republicans went "too far" <a href="https://t.co/ySH3W9Uycc">https://t.co/ySH3W9Uycc</a></p>— Newsweek (@Newsweek) <a href="https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1129139472594100229?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tomi Lahren calls Alabama's recently signed bill that effectively bans abortion "too restrictive,” shocking those who assumed she’d toe the party line. <a href="https://t.co/J832kG7rAD">https://t.co/J832kG7rAD</a></p>— Twitter Moments (@TwitterMoments) <a href="https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1129157458373382145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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You want to know how bad the Alabama law is:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Televangelist Pat Robertson says Alabama's abortion law is "extreme" and that Republicans went "too far" <a href="https://t.co/ySH3W9Uycc">https://t.co/ySH3W9Uycc</a></p>— Newsweek (@Newsweek) <a href="https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1129139472594100229?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tomi Lahren calls Alabama's recently signed bill that effectively bans abortion "too restrictive,” shocking those who assumed she’d toe the party line. <a href="https://t.co/J832kG7rAD">https://t.co/J832kG7rAD</a></p>— Twitter Moments (@TwitterMoments) <a href="https://twitter.com/TwitterMoments/status/1129157458373382145?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 16, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Robertson's comment is surprising, Lahren's is not. She's always been pro-choice, IIRC.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Robertson only says it goes too far because he thinks it’s too extreme for the SC to take up and overturn. He wants roe tossed out.

Let’s stop giving him credit

 

[trixR4kids]

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Robertson only says it goes too far because he thinks it’s too extreme for the SC to take up and overturn. He wants roe tossed out.

Let’s stop giving him credit

Exactly, the full quote is him making the strategic argument that you laid out, he doesn't think it'll get Roe tossed.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Update on Missouri.

Missouri legislature passes bill to ban abortions at 8 weeks of pregnancy; governor is likely to sign the bill into law; includes exceptions for medical emergencies, but not rape and incest.

 

[Kepler]

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Robertson only says it goes too far because he thinks it’s too extreme for the SC to take up and overturn. He wants roe tossed out

I assume the cretinous monsters writing these laws are all working together to scattershot the Court and see where the new line is.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I assume the cretinous monsters writing these laws are all working together to scattershot the Court and see where the new line is.

Yes. All of these hellholes are bottom of rankings for education and all related things, so makes perfect sense this is how they spend their time

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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Consensual rape is my favorite rape

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In discussing kinds of rapes he has encountered as a law enforcement official, state Rep. Barry Hovis spoke of the vast majority of rape being date rape and "consensual rape." A lot of "whats" rang around the chamber. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/moleg?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#moleg</a></p>— Crystal Thomas (@bycrystalthomas) <a href="https://twitter.com/bycrystalthomas/status/1129427026627125250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Slap Shot]

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Consensual rape is my favorite rape

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In discussing kinds of rapes he has encountered as a law enforcement official, state Rep. Barry Hovis spoke of the vast majority of rape being date rape and "consensual rape." A lot of "whats" rang around the chamber. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/moleg?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#moleg</a></p>— Crystal Thomas (@bycrystalthomas) <a href="https://twitter.com/bycrystalthomas/status/1129427026627125250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I don't know if I should laugh or cry. It's so fu***ng beyond my comprehension I just can't even...

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Consensual rape is my favorite rape

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In discussing kinds of rapes he has encountered as a law enforcement official, state Rep. Barry Hovis spoke of the vast majority of rape being date rape and "consensual rape." A lot of "whats" rang around the chamber. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/moleg?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#moleg</a></p>— Crystal Thomas (@bycrystalthomas) <a href="https://twitter.com/bycrystalthomas/status/1129427026627125250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 17, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I can't see why it wouldn't be?

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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I wish I could say that I think these pols are just trying to "own the libs" with dumb comments like this, but the fact is they really are that willfully ignorant in almost all cases.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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I wish I could say that I think these pols are just trying to "own the libs" with dumb comments like this, but the fact is they really are that willfully ignorant in almost all cases.

The date rape reference is priceless. Like it's just ok to rape your date because, well, you have needs.

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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I think by "consensual rape" they really mean "statutory rape"...

Still a stupid comment...

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Let's assume Roe were to be overturned. Realistically, what do folks suppose the odds are that in our lifetimes, Dred Scott gets relitigated as the right of red states to demand extradition of their citizens who travel to blue states to have abortions? How does states' rights come into play here? Or is this something like with pot where it would have to be explicitly illegal at the federal level and/or defined by the feds that it is criminal common law that abortion is a form of murder?

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I don’t know, but the first time a state demands extradition for an abortion to try that person for murder, it will be one of the more tenuous times since the 1860s. It could be incredibly fractious with a lot of ugly repercussions.

And part of me says “good”. The red states will fail without the blue.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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The WaPo had a great opp Ed today about when life begins. Can we insure fetuses now? Do we celebrate conception vs birthday? Are fetuses counted in a census? Do they get their own healthcare? Are miscarriages counted for tax purposes? Can you jail a pregnant woman if you’re forcing a second person to be incarcerated?

 

[mookie1995]

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The WaPo had a great opp Ed today about when life begins. Can we insure fetuses now? Do we celebrate conception vs birthday? Are fetuses counted in a census? Do they get their own healthcare? Are miscarriages counted for tax purposes? Can you jail a pregnant woman if you’re forcing a second person to be incarcerated?

mookie would like to count them as dependents on tax returns!!!! extra child tax credit!!!!

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Re: The "I Can't Believe There's No Abortion Thread" Abortion Thread

The WaPo had a great opp Ed today about when life begins. Can we insure fetuses now? Do we celebrate conception vs birthday? Are fetuses counted in a census? Do they get their own healthcare? Are miscarriages counted for tax purposes? Can you jail a pregnant woman if you’re forcing a second person to be incarcerated?

Isn't "personhood" grand?

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Isn't "personhood" grand?

Spoiler alert- conservatives will only consider it a person when it punishes the woman. It won’t count for anything else.