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The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

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GREAT rankings especially that #1 team ;)

:p:D:D

Thank you. Michigan has a big enough lead that I don't think they can be caught this season. North Dakota could get awfully close though if they were to win the title and if Michigan were to have a poor second half.
 
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Perhaps AIC can mount a winning campaign, perhaps even make an NCAA Tournament, and get some momentum around their program. If you have a winning program, they won't have issues with scheduling quality opposition.

Wow!:rolleyes:

Perhaps they will just "make" an NCAA tournament.

Just noticed this thread and planned to read every page. I stopped at Post #4.
 
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Wow!:rolleyes:

Perhaps they will just "make" an NCAA tournament.

Just noticed this thread and planned to read every page. I stopped at Post #4.
The Truth Hurts...
I just thought I would let everyone know that I am planning on doing a midseason update of the Greatest Programs.

I'll post a link in here to CHW when I have finished with the midseason update.

UMD+++++++++++ :D

You should just wait until the year is out when we win the league and the NCAA's again :D
 
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UMD+++++++++++ :D

You should just wait until the year is out when we win the league and the NCAA's again :D

I was originally planning on updating it monthly :p:D:D

Towards the end of the year is when the points really start to add up...so I definitely could just post it then, but I figured a midseason update works as well. There won't be huge differences in standings/points, but it is still interesting to see (at least for me) what direction teams are going at this point in the season.
 
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I'm curious as to who Amesbury is (who Minnesota beat in the Semfinals of the AAU Tourney, sometimes referred to as the "New England All-Stars"). They also beat "Brock Hall of CT" for the AAU Title. Neither of those teams were a part of the EAHL. I would love more information about those two squads, so if you have it, it would be greatly appreciated.

North Dakota didn't have a team in 1940, so anyone would have been "better" than nothing.

It could very well be a reference to the Amesbury Maples from Amesbury, MA. These days the team is essentially an adult rec league team as far as I know, but Amesbury is a predominantly French Catholic town, and I believe the Maples have been around in some form since the 1920's and according to rumor were supposedly were pretty good back in the day.
 
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I just thought I would let everyone know that I am planning on doing a midseason update of the Greatest Programs.

Given the changes in your life and the other responsibilities you've assumed since then, I suggest that holding off until end of season to do an update then is much more practical and understandable! :)
 
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Given the changes in your life and the other responsibilities you've assumed since then, I suggest that holding off until end of season to do an update then is much more practical and understandable! :)

Yeah, that is what I think I will do. I was hoping to get the midseason update done by the time law school started back up, but obviously life happens. I'll probably make the updates in May when school ends for the semester, unless I get time during Spring Break to get the biggest part of the legwork done. I wouldn't count on that though, as I have to get ahead during Spring Break so that the trip to Tampa for the Frozen Four won't be bogged down with school work. :)
 
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Thanks.

I wouldn't think they would sit at #45 for too long if Blais sticks around. They moved up three places this past season. If they have a similar type year next year, they would be prime for a push into the top 40. If they were to make the Frozen Four, they would probably jump into the low 30s. If they were to win it all, I would guess they would be somewhere in the top half, probably mid 20s.

FS23, Based on where UNO finished on your list, how do you feel about their inclusion in the NCHC considering the next lowest NCHC team (Western Michigan) is #38 on the list? The rest of the new NCHC membership finished #2, #5, #13, #16, #22, and #32, rounding out the conference.

I raised the topic in another thread, but, the gist is this. How and why did we get keys to the city? Don't get me wrong, I am thrilled we are part of what is the going to be the best conference in college hockey but I have read comments by others that we aren't deserving or meritorious enough to be included in their little club. That is a hard one to refute in a tangible way (although UNO has a lot of significant intangibles I personally think played a large role in their inclusion) since we have only played hockey since '97 and certainly have little real hockey legacy as a direct result. At least what we do have isn't anything to be ashamed of.

And don't tell me that Dean Blais, all by himself, is the reason, either. The guy just turned 61 and while he recently publicly said that published press reports that he is retiring in three years are BS, he certainly isn't the long term future of the program, particularly since Mike Hastings has already been designated the "head coach in waiting".

Comments?
 
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FS23, Based on where UNO finished on your list, how do you feel about their inclusion in the NCHC considering the next lowest NCHC team (Western Michigan) is #38 on the list? The rest of the new NCHC membership finished #2, #5, #13, #16, #22, and #32, rounding out the conference.

I raised the topic in another thread, but, the gist is this. How and why did we get keys to the city? Don't get me wrong, I am thrilled we are part of what is the going to be the best conference in college hockey but I have read comments by others that we aren't deserving or meritorious enough to be included in their little club. That is a hard one to refute in a tangible way (although UNO has a lot of significant intangibles I personally think played a large role in their inclusion) since we have only played hockey since '97 and certainly have little real hockey legacy as a direct result. At least what we do have isn't anything to be ashamed of.

And don't tell me that Dean Blais, all by himself, is the reason, either. The guy just turned 61 and while he recently publicly said that published press reports that he is retiring in three years are BS, he certainly isn't the long term future of the program, particularly since Mike Hastings has already been designated the "head coach in waiting".

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I think the membership invite had to do more with the fact that the size of UNO's program fit the categorical priorities of the league.
UNO is a mid-sized school in a metro area of around 800,000
They have a big arena by college hockey standards.
UNO is soon to have all D1 Athletics. After nixing football and wrestling, Hockey will be the undisputed main attraction sport.
These are things that the NCHC schools more or less have in common, and make them financially viable and marketable.

From a business standpoint, tradition and history doesn't matter a whole lot. From the way we've seen the NCHC formation saga play out, one could conjecture that it was purely business.
 
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FS23, Based on where UNO finished on your list, how do you feel about their inclusion in the NCHC considering the next lowest NCHC team (Western Michigan) is #38 on the list? The rest of the new NCHC membership finished #2, #5, #13, #16, #22, and #32, rounding out the conference.

I raised the topic in another thread, but, the gist is this. How and why did we get keys to the city? Don't get me wrong, I am thrilled we are part of what is the going to be the best conference in college hockey but I have read comments by others that we aren't deserving or meritorious enough to be included in their little club. That is a hard one to refute in a tangible way (although UNO has a lot of significant intangibles I personally think played a large role in their inclusion) since we have only played hockey since '97 and certainly have little real hockey legacy as a direct result. At least what we do have isn't anything to be ashamed of.

And don't tell me that Dean Blais, all by himself, is the reason, either. The guy just turned 61 and while he recently publicly said that published press reports that he is retiring in three years are BS, he certainly isn't the long term future of the program, particularly since Mike Hastings has already been designated the "head coach in waiting".

Comments?

7&7 summed it up fairly well.

Omaha is a good sized city (top 5 or so of cities with a college hockey team in the city), they draw well, and Hockey will be the kingpin of their athletic department. Throw one of the greatest college hockey coaches of all-time in the mix, and Omaha was a slamdunk. While Omaha does not have the significant history that many of the others have, they have shown that commitment to hockey that I think the NCHC was looking for in members.

FWIW, I think the NCHC ****ed all over history and tradition when they formed the league, so I don't really think that played a part in who they were looking at as members.
 
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I haven't punched in all of the numbers just yet, but it looks like BC will make a nice leap up in the rankings based on their victory this evening.

Look for the updated rankings to come out probably sometime in the next week or so.
 
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I haven't punched in all of the numbers just yet, but it looks like BC will make a nice leap up in the rankings based on their victory this evening.

Look for the updated rankings to come out probably sometime in the next week or so.

Thanks, look forward to it. I notice that there are some here with no sense of history or tradition beyond the tip of their own nose who also want you to update the "greatest coaches of all-time" thread as well.....
 
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Thanks, look forward to it. I notice that there are some here with no sense of history or tradition beyond the tip of their own nose who also want you to update the "greatest coaches of all-time" thread as well.....

I can do that as well...it will just take a little bit longer as I haven't put in any information yet this season. I'm also right at the end of the semester, so I have plenty going on. It might not happen until this summer.
 
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#50-#58 are in...

http://www.collegehockeyweekly.com/Greatest-Programs.html

The biggest thing to note here is that Union has jumped up (obviously) out from #51. As a result, UAH and Mankato each drop a spot.

Also, there were a group of people upset with where DU was in the list last year. It turns out they had a very strong argument. I had transposed a number that hurt DU a bit. I go through my list at the end of each season to make sure that all the numbers are correct, and when I did that this season I caught the mistake. As a result, DU's ranking has been somewhat significantly altered. Stay tuned for DU's exact placement on the list. :)
 
Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #58

#50-#58 are in...

http://www.collegehockeyweekly.com/Greatest-Programs.html

The biggest thing to note here is that Union has jumped up (obviously) out from #51. As a result, UAH and Mankato each drop a spot.

Also, there were a group of people upset with where DU was in the list last year. It turns out they had a very strong argument. I had transposed a number that hurt DU a bit. I go through my list at the end of each season to make sure that all the numbers are correct, and when I did that this season I caught the mistake. As a result, DU's ranking has been somewhat significantly altered. Stay tuned for DU's exact placement on the list. :)

Did Union end up #26? :D
 
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