The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

don't you just hate idiots that argue such pointless little things?

It's the nature of the beast.

 

[Osorojo]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

By my count at least 56 of 160 replies to this thread were either off topic, or an explanation of why a previous reply was off topic, or a gratuitous insult. This may indicate the reduced mental capacity of the average respondent on this thread or it may indicate the subject of the thread - as indicated by its title - is not clearly defined, or perhaps defies definition.

 

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Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

By my count at least 56 of 160 replies to this thread were either off topic, or an explanation of why a previous reply was off topic, or a gratuitous insult. This may indicate the reduced mental capacity of the average respondent on this thread or it may indicate the subject of the thread - as indicated by its title - is not clearly defined, or perhaps defies definition.

You actually read through every reply to see if it was on topic? Wow.

And I'd say that on this board, a 65% on-topic hit rate is pretty **** good.

 

[FreshFish]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

By my count at least 56 of 160 replies to this thread were either off topic, or an explanation of why a previous reply was off topic, or a gratuitous insult. This may indicate the reduced mental capacity of the average respondent on this thread or it may indicate the subject of the thread - as indicated by its title - is not clearly defined, or perhaps defies definition.

Would you consider it "off topic" if one were to ask whether you included your comment and the two replies it generated as part of the 56...er 57....er 58 ... er 59....replies that were off topic?

Have you ever been at a meeting with a lot of people at which side conversations break out from time to time? What is more important in that meeting? the relationships people develop? or the content of the conversation? or are they each important in a different way?

seems to me we are passing time and hanging out waiting for the countdown to resume, no?

 

[Osorojo]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

Would you consider it "off topic" if one were to ask whether you included your comment and the two replies it generated as part of the 56...er 57....er 58 ... er 59....replies that were off topic?

Ask away. My original nomination of Ned Harkness turned out to be off topic in its justification [pure coaching ability], and all my subsequent comments including this were pretty much off topic, as were responses to them. It needs a ouija board to stay on an unspecified topic.
Determining the "best" now appears quite straightforward except for assigning point values to categories such as W - L regular season record, W - L playoff record, Championships, total wins, awards, and maybe career length - all nice objective, numerical data, nothing subjective or personal or academic or financial or unrelated to DI men's ice hockey W - L records.
I missed this at first, but in my rather feeble defense so did many of the others who strayed from the topic and were repremanded for doing so, and many who weren't.

 

[ronmexico]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

Ask away. My original nomination of Ned Harkness turned out to be off topic in its justification [pure coaching ability], and all my subsequent comments including this were pretty much off topic, as were responses to them. It needs a ouija board to stay on an unspecified topic.
Determining the "best" now appears quite straightforward except for assigning point values to categories such as W - L regular season record, W - L playoff record, Championships, total wins, awards, and maybe career length - all nice objective, numerical data, nothing subjective or personal or academic or financial or unrelated to DI men's ice hockey W - L records.
I missed this at first, but in my rather feeble defense so did many of the others who strayed from the topic and were repremanded for doing so, and many who weren't.

Come on OJ! Grow a pair. Are you really just going to take this bull stuff? I want to know what you really think. My life is dim and I need your light to see the way.

 

[Farce Poobah]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

#24 Cheddy Thompson
Coached at Colorado College from 1945-1955
Cheddy Thompson comes in at #24. One of the great coaches of the '40s and '50s, Thompson led the Tigers to the first five Frozen Fours, and six overall. Thompson won 20 games or more only once, his last season of coaching at CC. He only had two losing seasons, and lost over ten games only once in his 10 years at Colorado College. Cheddy was 7-5 in the NCAAs/Frozen Four, and arguably his best coaching job was the '49-'50 season. CC was coming off back to back Frozen Fours, but were unable to win in the semis. In the 1950 Frozen Four, Thompson led the Tigers to their first ever National Championship.

Points: 90.00

Thanks for introducing me to Cheddy Thompson.

Thanks for all the work, FS23. These are great threads.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

#23 Bill Cleary
Coached at Harvard from 1971-1990
Bill Cleary comes in at #23. The Harvard legend was a great player (silver in '56, gold in '60) before becoming coach for the Crimson. Cleary led Harvard to 6 Frozen Fours, including 3 title games, and the memorable 1989 National Championship. Remarkably consistent, Cleary had only 4 losing campaigns in 19 total seasons. In total, Coach Cleary led Harvard to 9 NCAA Tournaments and went 11-14-1 in those games. Cleary also coached more Hobey Baker winners than any other coach (tied with Mike Sertich) with 3. His teams won 20+ games 7 times, and won 31 in their '89 campaign. As many ECAC fans know, the Cleary Cup (presented to the ECAC Regular Season Champion) is named after the Harvard legend.

Points: 94.80

 

[Driftryder]

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I agree, great work indeed FS23.

Your commentary is always a good read.

 

[Bakunin]

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Your commentary is always a good read.

Yeah.

Now if he'd only specify the sport these guys coach...

 

[Priceless]

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Yeah.

Now if he'd only specify the sport these guys coach...

D-III women's lacrosse.

 

[Dmann]

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I agree, great work indeed FS23.

Your commentary is always a good read.

I second this!! I remember a short time ago "the best teams ever" thread was epic! I was traveling at the time of the top 10 announcement and I was frantically trying to get on line at my hotel. When I finally got a signal, my wife announces it's time to go downstairs for dinner. I almost skipped dinner to see the top 10! When Denver came in at, oh God, was it #7 or #5?, I was of course scandalized!! Too cool!! Loved it! I'm having a hard time believing people are finding time to bicker about this thread. I should think we should be thankful someone is taking the time to do all this work. Now if you can just make Gwoz #1, all will be well!!

 

[alfablue]

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I agree, great work indeed FS23.

Your commentary is always a good read.

If I spread rep around enough, I could give you another one. But in addition to a good read- I think the commentary is quite educational. A lot of it has to do with the beginning of NCAA hockey (abit, that means 1948, but that's ok), and I'm sure there will be some coaches included from the 60's and 70's. Lots of time where I knew little of college hockey (except that hometown OSU had a team, and dad's alma mater MTU had a team AND a school).

This is good stuff.

Even limted to American division I men's college hockey, limited to FS23's personal list...

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

#22 Dick Umile
Coaches at New Hampshire from 1990-present
Dick Umile comes in at #22. Umile has been extremely consistent in his time at UNH. He has had only 1 losing season ('96) in his 21 years at the helm of the program. He should reach 500 wins next season, which would put him in a very exclusive club. In his 21 years at UNH, the Wildcats have made 17 trips to the NCAA Tournament going 13-17 in those games. Umile has led them to 4 Frozen Fours, advancing to the title game twice in '99 and '03. He has coached 28 All-Americans, 10 Hobey Baker Finalists and a Hobey Baker winner. Basically, the only thing left for Umile to accomplish is a National Title, something that he has in common with only two others in the top 25. If he stays around for awhile longer, and gets that elusive National Championship, Umile has a resume to move up on this list.

Points: 95.20

 

[Dmann]

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I second this!! I remember a short time ago "the best teams ever" thread was epic! I was traveling at the time of the top 10 announcement and I was frantically trying to get on line at my hotel. When I finally got a signal, my wife announces it's time to go downstairs for dinner. I almost skipped dinner to see the top 10! When Denver came in at, oh God, was it #7 or #5?, I was of course scandalized!! Too cool!! Loved it! I'm having a hard time believing people are finding time to bicker about this thread. I should think we should be thankful someone is taking the time to do all this work. Now if you can just make Gwoz #1, all will be well!!

Upon further review of my own post, maybe I should be hoping for The "Chief", Murray Armstrong to be #1. That's probably a more realistic choice.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

#21 Doug Woog
Coached at Minnesota from 1985-1999
Dave Hak...err, Doug Woog comes in at #21. Woog was amazingly consistent in his 14 years at the helm of the Gopher program. He won 30+ games 7 times, made 12 trips to the NCAA Tournament, 6 appearances in the Frozen Four, and led the Gophers to the 1989 National Championship Game, losing to Harvard in overtime. Woog coached 17 All-Americans, 7 Hobey Baker Finalists and 2 Hobey Baker winners. His .663 winning percentage is good for 9th amongst coaches in this top-25 list. Woog's 22 NCAA Tournament victories are tied for 4th all-time. Had Woog been able to capitalize on one of his Frozen Four opportunities he would be much higher on this list, and perhaps would have stayed at Minnesota quite a bit longer. As it is, Woog sits at #21, and ranks 2nd best among coaches that never won a title.

Points: 104.04

 

[ecbrevik]

Re: The Greatest Coaches of All-Time

By my count at least 56 of 160 replies to this thread were either off topic, or an explanation of why a previous reply was off topic, or a gratuitous insult. This may indicate the reduced mental capacity of the average respondent on this thread or it may indicate the subject of the thread - as indicated by its title - is not clearly defined, or perhaps defies definition.

Welcome to USCHO. Off topic posts are the rule, not the exception.

Upon further review of my own post, maybe I should be hoping for The "Chief", Murray Armstrong to be #1. That's probably a more realistic choice.

That was my initial thought when I read your first post.

 

[Happy]

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#21 Doug Woog
Coached at Minnesota from 1985-1999
Dave Hak...err, Doug Woog comes in at #21. Woog was amazingly consistent in his 14 years at the helm of the Gopher program. He won 30+ games 7 times, made 12 trips to the NCAA Tournament, 6 appearances in the Frozen Four, and led the Gophers to the 1989 National Championship Game, losing to Harvard in overtime. Woog coached 17 All-Americans, 7 Hobey Baker Finalists and 2 Hobey Baker winners. His .663 winning percentage is good for 9th amongst coaches in this top-25 list. Woog's 22 NCAA Tournament victories are tied for 4th all-time. Had Woog been able to capitalize on one of his Frozen Four opportunities he would be much higher on this list, and perhaps would have stayed at Minnesota quite a bit longer. As it is, Woog sits at #21, and ranks 2nd best among coaches that never won a title.

Points: 104.04

You forgot his general ***-whoopin of the sue, MN was 30-20-6 in the regular season and 6-5 during the WCHA playoffs against UND with Woog.

 

[ecbrevik]

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You forgot his general ***-whoopin of the sue, MN was 30-20-6 in the regular season and 6-5 during the WCHA playoffs against UND with Woog.

Hmm. The Sioux winning % against Woog was better than most teams based on Woog's career win %. Thanks for pointing that out! And per normal, the Sioux brought their best game in the playoffs, where they essentially split their games.

 

[Happy]

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Hmm. The Sioux winning % against Woog was better than most teams based on Woog's career win %. Thanks for pointing that out! And per normal, the Sioux brought their best game in the playoffs, where they essentially split their games.

Oh, come on, you guys sucked, and you know it.