The end of leagues as we know?

[bronconick]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Frankly, I hope we're not done. I want 8 AQ's and 8 at larges. That spreads the wealth around and makes the conference tournaments a bit more exciting than they are now.

Can you imagine the yearly panic if there's 3-5 non-top 16 teams in the tourney?

 

[Dude Love]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

And Miami's only claim to fame is colossally blowing it in the Frozen Four.

 

[bigblue_dl]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Can you imagine the yearly panic if there's 3-5 non-top 16 teams in the tourney?

That might be the only part of this that could be a good thing, shutting more of the BTHC and BHHC teams out of the tournament, and IMO that should be the main goal for the remaining teams from now on.

 

[dggoddard]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Using a one year sample size is colossally stupid. Omaha, duluth and western michigan are not contenders every year.

Agreed. Lets throw out Western Michigan since they're out and use a five year sample. Would that satisfy you?

All six programs are easily top 20 programs and over the last 5 years. North Dakota, DU and Miami are probably Top 5 [or real close] in average end of season Pairwise. UND has averaged 26.6 wins, Miami 26.4 wins, DU 23.6 wins, CC 20.8 wins, UMD 19.2, UNO 18.2 [Doesn't factor in ties].

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Can you imagine the yearly panic if there's 3-5 non-top 16 teams in the tourney?

If? BHHC and BHTC are getting what they deserve there...

 

[Shirtless Guy]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Sure, why not do a 5 year sample of all the wcha and ccha and see who "should" be in or even compare it with krach

 

[SOTA]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Fox College Sports is already getting a production feed from the University of North Dakota (started last year). They've been running it nationally. I'll watch that and just think of you as the "king of queens".

That's pretty cool.....hopefully anything that's produced by CBS College Sports will be fed into CBS on Friday & Saturday night as well.

My advice is to keep the package, because it won't be fed into Fox Sports North in the Twin Cities or Wisconsin markets.

 

[Almington]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Can you imagine the yearly panic if there's 3-5 non-top 12 teams in the tourney?

FYP, because that is where it appears we are headed at this point

 

[ScottM]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

And Miami's only claim to fame is colossally blowing it in the Frozen Four.

Which is still more than SCCC has ever done.

 

[dggoddard]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

FYP, because that is where it appears we are headed at this point

Which is great if it happens because it will add a lot of drama & importance to the postseason conference tournaments.

 

[Priceless]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Which is great if it happens because it will add a lot of drama & importance to the postseason conference tournaments.

What are you smoking? It's a "great" thing if a few programs fold and the NCAA cuts us back to a 12 team tournament?

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Which is great if it happens because it will add a lot of drama & importance to the postseason conference tournaments.

And if that means not seeing DU get an at large bid to the 12 team, 8 AQ NCAAs are we still happy? (Although I realize at this point you stating anything is negative about the BHHC is a not likely )

 

[dggoddard]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

And if that means not seeing DU get an at large bid to the 12 team, 8 AQ NCAAs are we still happy? (Although I realize at this point you stating anything is negative about the BHHC is a not likely )

If there were 8, 12 or 16 conferences, only one team per conference got in and Pairwise burned in H-E-L-L I'd be one happy dude.

 

[joecct]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

Can you imagine the yearly panic if there's 3-5 non-top 16 teams in the tourney?

Yep. And it's going to be fun. Then the NCAA expands the tournament to 20/24 teams to get the big boys back in the tournament. Money talks. Why do you think the squeakball tournament went to 65 then 68 teams? The power conferences need their representation or the whole tournament falls apart.

I don't think a single team folds. Now that more teams have a shot, it may expand interest and help the mid majors.

Let's say the CCHA adds Mercyhurst and the WCHA adds Air Force (ND goes HEA). Now every school in both conferences can legitimately say that they have a shot at an AQ where they did not before (oh and we just expanded the AQ's to 7 doing that!).

 

[Craig P.]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

I think you're confusing FOOTBALL & BASKETBALL with hockey. The only non-all Big Ten hockey game that I remember seeing was MN-North Dakota in 2010 (there may have been others, I'm just not aware of them). That also may be the only non-all Big Ten sporting event that I've seen on BTN that wasn't football or basketball. All of the volleyball/softball/baseball games were conference games, I believe.

It may have changed this past season, but I have previously seen ND women's volleyball and soccer on the Integer Network.

 

[stuckinwi]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

If there were 12 or 16 conferences and only one team per conference got in and Pairwise burned in H-E-L-L I'd be one happy dude.

But that isn't feasible in for college hockey.... 6 x 12 = 72 teams. Not happening in DI hockey. Ever. And you didn't answer the question, merely redirected to another pipe dream...

 

[Alton]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

And if that means not seeing DU get an at large bid to the 12 team, 8 AQ NCAAs are we still happy? (Although I realize at this point you stating anything is negative about the BHHC is a not likely )

Not possible. Current NCAA rules state that NCAA Division I Tournaments may have no more than 50 percent automatic qualifiers, so if the tournament has 12 teams at least 6 of them must be at large bids.

Actually, having more than 6 conferences would be a great deterrent to the NCAA Championships and Sport Management Cabinet reducing the number of teams in the hockey tournament--it is one of the factors that they are supposed to consider when determining the size of a tournament field.

 

[dggoddard]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

But that isn't feasible in for college hockey.... 6 x 12 = 72 teams. Not happening in DI hockey. Ever. And you didn't answer the question, merely redirected to another pipe dream...

I don't have any problem with DU [or any school] being excluded NCAA Tournament if they don't win the regular season or conference playoffs.

Eliminate Pairwise and non-conference games become more fun for the players.

 

[Handyman]

Nope. Not at all will UMD and UND replace all of what FSN is losing.
But FSN needs something to run when their old stalwart is running on "Jim Delany Television" and Fox College Sports and UND already have a national deal. Pretty easy solution for Fox.

Please refrain from driving...you have to be either drunk or high to believe this. FSN North needs to replace nothing...they can show anything from any of the other networks that will guarantee better ratings and less cost! They could show a live feed of Delaney counting his money and it is more attractive to them than UND hockey.

Get out of your bubble, come into the real world.

 

[The Sicatoka]

Re: The end of leagues as we know?

FSN North needs to replace nothing...they cam show anything from any of the other networks that will guarantee better ratings and less cost!

FSNorth needs to run something. Many times last year on my cable system I had "overlap", where the same hockey game was showing on both FSNorth and one of the Fox College Sports (Atlantic, Central, Pacific) feeds. When UMTC is on BTN, FSNorth will be running something. The easy solution for FSNorth is to grab the patch cord and take an FCS feed (as they've done in the past).

I know it sucks for UMTC to lose their private network (FSNorth), but you're gaining the four..., fift..., sixt..., a spot on BTN.