The definitive tournament speculation thread

[Josh Carey]

Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

Difficult to do this without hard PWR numbers, but I'll give it a go....

(a) Oswego and Plattsburgh do not win the SUNYAC. Do 3 SUNYAC teams make the tournament?

I'm leaning towards no. it will come down to whoever has won the season series between Oswego and Plattsburgh. My theory on this is that unlike in previous years, there is no parity in the SUNYAC this year. Aside from Fredonia, nobody besides those two teams is above .500. And Fredonia has played a bunch of scrubs and lost to every good team they've played, so they're not as good as their record indicates. Since we've seen in year's past that SOS is weighted heavily, the SUNYAC's poor showing this year means it's a two-bid conference.

That being said, for that exact reason, Oswego and Plattsburgh will be playing each other in the SUNYAC final.

(b) Norwich does not win the ECAC-E. Does Norwich make the tournament?

The NESCAC is kicking the crap out of the ECAC-E so far. Norwich is the only ECAC-E team above .500 right now. So another case of a terrible SOS being possible. I'd say a four-loss Norwich team probably doesn't make it. Three or fewer, they have a shot, but I wouldn't be confident. Like the SUNYAC though, no reason they shouldn't win their tournament.

(c) Gotteramdung scenario - both (a) and (b) happen. Are the Pool C teams Oswego, Plattsburgh and Norwich which screws the West, and maybe the ECAC-W?

There is no reason to think the ECAC-West is locked in as a two bid conference this year. It will come down to specific comparisons in your question, so it's difficult to say at this point. Norwich is ahead of Plattsburgh based on H2H, so would you take CSS over Plattsburgh? It's not as easy a call as you might think, and at this very moment, I might lean towards CSS.

Ooh, one scenario to append to situation (c): say the ECAC-W continues to have a down season outside of Elmira, and Pool C is indeed flooded with upsets from other conferences. If Elmira also loses in the ECAC-W tournament, does the NCAA dare award them Pool B rather than the conference champion (particularly in light of what Neumann did with their unlikely ECAC-W run last season)?

Depends how strong a case the league champion has. If it's Hobart or Utica? Elmira *should* get Pool B.

(d) Western Gotteramdung - #1 seeds do not win the NCHA or MIAC tournaments, but Adrian wins the MCHA - where will Adrian go then?

How many total western teams are there, and how many of them are within traveling distance of Adrian? I'm going to try to get an "Adrian matrix" on how their arrival on the scene can make the E/W split different based on various potential outcomes. But just as an example, if there are no western at large bids, and Adrian can't travel to the other two western teams, they'll get sent to Oswego or Elmira. I would also very much love for no teams within 500 miles of Adrian to make the tournament, as then Adrian would have to fly somewhere.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

Difficult to do this without hard PWR numbers, but I'll give it a go....



I'm leaning towards no. it will come down to whoever has won the season series between Oswego and Plattsburgh. My theory on this is that unlike in previous years, there is no parity in the SUNYAC this year. Aside from Fredonia, nobody besides those two teams is above .500. And Fredonia has played a bunch of scrubs and lost to every good team they've played, so they're not as good as their record indicates. Since we've seen in year's past that SOS is weighted heavily, the SUNYAC's poor showing this year means it's a two-bid conference.

That being said, for that exact reason, Oswego and Plattsburgh will be playing each other in the SUNYAC final.

I think its more the odd chance someone takes out Oswego in the semi finals...again....and then that team takes out Plattsburgh...then you would probbly have to take all 3.

 

[Hammer]

Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

Adrian didn't do themselves any favors in getting an at-large bid. However, they are still the favorites for the MCHA bid.

Barring about 60 bus crashes, Adrian is not getting an at-large bid.

 

[Josh Carey]

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I think its more the odd chance someone takes out Oswego in the semi finals...again....and then that team takes out Plattsburgh...then you would probbly have to take all 3.

Why?

Barring about 60 bus crashes, Adrian is not getting an at-large bid.

Unless their own bus crashes, they are getting an AQ, however.

 

[Hammer]

Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

And it's a ****ed shame that Oswego isn't going to get anything out this win, rankings-wise, when the regional rankings come out. A different discussion for a different day, but still.

 

[norm1909]

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The NESCAC is kicking the crap out of the ECAC-E so far. Norwich is the only ECAC-E team above .500 right now. So another case of a terrible SOS being possible. I'd say a four-loss Norwich team probably doesn't make it. Three or fewer, they have a shot, but I wouldn't be confident. Like the SUNYAC though, no reason they shouldn't win their tournament....

No doubt the NESCAC is a tuft conference to play against. Looking at the rosters, I'm surprised to see Middlebury has only 2 Juniors on the team - Ken Suchoski & Bryan Curran.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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Why?



Unless their own bus crashes, they are getting an AQ, however.

Oswego would be 24-3-0 if they loss to Plattsburgh and loss in the semi finals...with wins over plattsburgh, elmira, adrian, hobart....

Plattsburgh would be 22-3-2 if they win out with quality wins over oswego, elmira, middlebury, williams

As of right now...St.Norbert is the only decent team out west where if they lose their conference may be more deserving...may...Not only that, I would put money on Plattsburgh and Oswego winning out their league (besides jan 30th) then SNC going undefeated in the NCHA...

 

[93GreatLaker]

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I think its more the odd chance someone takes out Oswego in the semi finals...again....and then that team takes out Plattsburgh...again....then you would probbly have to take all 3.

fixed your post

 

[NUProf]

Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

The NESCAC is kicking the crap out of the ECAC-E so far. Norwich is the only ECAC-E team above .500 right now. So another case of a terrible SOS being possible. I'd say a four-loss Norwich team probably doesn't make it. Three or fewer, they have a shot, but I wouldn't be confident. Like the SUNYAC though, no reason they shouldn't win their tournament.

Josh, the ECAC E vs. NESCAC record does not matter for SOS purposes, because each team in the interlock plays every other team in the interlock once. That means that the contribution of the interlock games to the OWP is exactly 0.500, just like the contribution of SUNYAC games to the OWP for the SUNYAC schools is exactly 0.500. This happens in every league with a balanced schedule. OWP for NU depends only on the WP of its NC opponnents, that is Platts (x2), and Curry, and on how well the interlock teams do in non-conference games. (Stout and SNHU don't count unless we go to secondary criteria).

Norwich could be the only ECAC East team to beat a NESCAC school, but the contribution to OWP from league games would still be exactly 0.500. This would be different if the ECAC East teams only played half of the NESCAC teams.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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fixed your post

19 SUNYAC titles.....doesn't happen as often as Oswego (7)

 

[93GreatLaker]

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19 SUNYAC titles.....doesn't happen as often as Oswego (7)

very true, however the last time Oswego lost in the semi-finals, Plattsburgh lost in the finals. How did that shake out? Oh yeah, with Oswego making the tourney, and winning a National Championship. Platty stayed home

 

[spwood]

Re: The definitive tournament speculation thread

I'll take my shot at this:

Monkey wrenches

(a) Oswego and Plattsburgh do not win the SUNYAC. Do 3 SUNYAC teams make the tournament?

No, because in this scenario, one of the two didn't even get out of the semis. My thought would be that it might come down to Plattsburgh vs. Oswego head-to-head for one spot.

(b) Norwich does not win the ECAC-E. Does Norwich make the tournament?

As it stands right now, I'd say yes.

(c) Gotteramdung scenario - both (a) and (b) happen. Are the Pool C teams Oswego, Plattsburgh and Norwich which screws the West, and maybe the ECAC-W?

see (a) above - I belive that two of the three make it (Norwich and one SUNY team, but not all three as at-larges). Interesting thought, though. What if they ranked Plattsburgh ahead of Oswego and dangled Oswego as the last Pool C team for comparison with the west? Would the Oswego/Adrian result of last night make a difference in comparing Oswego to western teams?

(d) Western Gotteramdung - #1 seeds do not win the NCHA or MIAC tournaments, but Adrian wins the MCHA - where will Adrian go then?

Then you might see the scenario of only three western teams with Adrian sent east to play either Elmira or Oswego. This is the year, thanks to Adrian, that geography will play a much bigger role in "seeding". I think the integrety of the bracket (i.e. seeding) will be much harder to maintain this year.

Yea it is all 2 months away, but playing with doomsday scenarios sure beats playing a nice game of chess.

Without a doubt - with new interesting scenarios possible after every weekend of play.

 

[Josh Carey]

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Oswego would be 24-3-0 if they loss to Plattsburgh and loss in the semi finals...with wins over plattsburgh, elmira, adrian, hobart....

Plattsburgh would be 22-3-2 if they win out with quality wins over oswego, elmira, middlebury, williams

As of right now...St.Norbert is the only decent team out west where if they lose their conference may be more deserving...may...Not only that, I would put money on Plattsburgh and Oswego winning out their league (besides jan 30th) then SNC going undefeated in the NCHA...

Even with the rest of the SUNYAC struggling, I would be amazed to say that Oswego and Plattsburgh are winning out in the regular season. Plattsburgh also has a loss and a tie against Norwich, have also lost to Oswego in addition to potentially beating them. And again, your scenario of Plattsburgh beating every single one of those solid teams remaining on their schedule is highly unlikely. At this moment, I think Oswego, Norwich, and maybe CSS would all be ahead of Plattsburgh in the criteria. If Elmira beats them, they could join that list. That means Plattsburgh still has some work to do to get into a strong Pool C consideration. Your scenario is a best-case outlook, not necessarily something we should expect.

Josh, the ECAC E vs. NESCAC record does not matter for SOS purposes, because each team in the interlock plays every other team in the interlock once. That means that the contribution of the interlock games to the OWP is exactly 0.500, just like the contribution of SUNYAC games to the OWP for the SUNYAC schools is exactly 0.500. This happens in every league with a balanced schedule. OWP for NU depends only on the WP of its NC opponnents, that is Platts (x2), and Curry, and on how well the interlock teams do in non-conference games. (Stout and SNHU don't count unless we go to secondary criteria).

Norwich could be the only ECAC East team to beat a NESCAC school, but the contribution to OWP from league games would still be exactly 0.500. This would be different if the ECAC East teams only played half of the NESCAC teams.

This is an amazing point, and one I should have considered. I'm glad you brought it up. It's worth noting that top teams (in both the SUNYAC and interlock) are actually hurt by this fact, since their (impressive) record is removed from their own OWP calculations. Top teams in leagues with balanced schedules have their OWP contribution from conference games hurt directly proportional to how well they win their league. The good news for Norwich is that their out of conference schedule should offset this. Barring a complete second half collapse, Norwich should be in a solid position to even get an at-large bid if needed.

 

[Matthew Webb]

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How many total western teams are there, and how many of them are within traveling distance of Adrian? I'm going to try to get an "Adrian matrix" on how their arrival on the scene can make the E/W split different based on various potential outcomes. But just as an example, if there are no western at large bids, and Adrian can't travel to the other two western teams, they'll get sent to Oswego or Elmira. I would also very much love for no teams within 500 miles of Adrian to make the tournament, as then Adrian would have to fly somewhere.

Discounting the MCHA, the only two Western teams within 500 miles of Adrian are St. Norbert and Stevens Point.

 

[norm1909]

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All Time NCAA Tournament Participation by team:

All Time NCAA Tournament Participation by team:

Team (Years Participated) Yrs. Won Lost Tied Pct.
Amherst (1999-2009) ...... 2 .. 1 .. 3 .. 0 .250 

Augsburg (1984-98) ....... 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 1 .438

Babson (1984-85-86-87-88-89-90-91-92-93-2007-09)
......................... 12 . 13 . 13 .. 6 .500

Bemidji St. (1985-86-87-88-89) 
.......................... 5 . 11 .. 9 .. 0 .550

Bethel (MN) (2007)........ 1 .. 1 .. 1 .. 0 .500

Bowdoin (1996-2002) ...... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

Colby (1996) ............. 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Concordia-M’head (1987-2000)
.......................... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

Curry (2005) ............. 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

Elmira (1986-88-90-91-92-93-94-97-2003-06-08-09)
......................... 12 . 11 . 17 .. 2 .367

Fredonia St. (1994-95-2007) 
.......................... 3 .. 4 .. 4 .. 1 .500

Geneseo St. (1990-2005-06) 3 .. 0 .. 2 .. 2 .250

Gust. Adolphus (1990-91-93-2009) 
.......................... 4 .. 2 .. 5 .. 2 .333

Hobart (2004-06-08-09) ... 4 .. 3 .. 4 .. 0 .429

Lake Forest (1991) ....... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Lebanon Valley (2001) .... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Manhattanville (2005-06-07-08)
.......................... 4 .. 1 .. 4 .. 0 .200 

Mass.-Dartmouth (2006-07-08)
.......................... 3 .. 1 .. 3 .. 0 .250 

Mercyhurst (1991) ........ 1 .. 1 .. 1 .. 0 .500 

Middlebury (1995-96-97-98-99-2000-01-02-03-04-05-06-07)
......................... 13 . [B]34[/B] .. 6 .. 2 .833

Minn. St. Mankato (1985-86-90-91-92)
.......................... 5 .. 5 .. 8 .. 3 .406

New England Col. (1984-2001-05)
.......................... 3 .. 1 .. 4 .. 1 .250

Norwich (1987-97-99-2000-02-03-04-06-07-08)
......................... 10 . 16 .. 9 .. 2 .630

Oswego St. (1984-87-88-89-91-98-2003-07)
.......................... 8 .. 8 .. 12 . 0 .400

*Plattsburgh St. (1985-86-87-88-90-92-93-95-97-98-99-2000-01-02-04-08-09)
......................... [B]17[/B] . 21 . 17 .. 8 .543 

SUNY Potsdam (1996) ...... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000 

Rochester Inst. (1984-85-86-89-94-96-97-98-99-2000-01-02)
......................... 12 . 22 . 15 .. 4 .585

St. Cloud St. (1987) ..... 1 .. 2 .. 2 .. 0 .500 

St. John’s (Minn.) (1996-97-2001-03-05)
.......................... 5 .. 2 .. 7 .. 1 .250

St. Mary’s (Minn.) (1989-95)
…......................... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

St. Norbert (1997-98-99-2002-03-04-05-06-07-08)
......................... 10 . 12 .. 9 .. 1 .568 

St. Olaf (2006) .......... 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

St. Scholastica (2009) ... 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

St. Thomas (Minn.) (1984-85-86-88-90-92-94-99-2000-02-04-05-08)
......................... 13 .. 9 . 16 .. 4 .379

Salem St. (1985-87-92-93-94-95)
.......................... 6 .. 6 .. 9 .. 1 .406

Trinity (CT.) (2003-05-08) 3 .. 2 .. 3 .. 0 .400

Union (N.Y.) (1984-85-86-89)
.......................... 4 .. 4 .. 7 .. 1 .375

Wentworth Inst. (2000-02-03-04)
.......................... 4 .. 0 .. 6 .. 0 .000

Wis.-Eau Claire (1989) ... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Wis.-River Falls (1984-88-93-94-95-96-98-2001-03-04-07)
......................... 11 . 22 . 12 .. 0 .647 

Wis.-Stevens Point (1988-89-90-91-92-93-94-95-98)
.......................... 9 . 19 . 12 .. 3 .614

Wis.-Stout (2008) ........ 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000 

Wis.-Superior (1992-93-94-95-96-97-99-2000-01-02-06-09)
......................... 12 . 23 . 16 .. 3 .583

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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All Time NCAA Tournament Participation by team:

Team (Years Participated) Yrs. Won Lost Tied Pct.
Amherst (1999) ........... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000 

Augsburg (1984-98) ....... 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 1 .438

Babson (1984-85-86-87-88-89-90-91-92-93-2007)
......................... 11 . 13 . 12 .. 6 .516

Bemidji St. (1985-86-87-88-89) 
.......................... 5 . 11 .. 9 .. 0 .550

Bethel (MN) (2007)........ 1 .. 1 .. 1 .. 0 .500

Bowdoin (1996-2002) ...... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

Colby (1996) ............. 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Concordia-M’head (1987-2000)
.......................... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

Curry (2005) ............. 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

Elmira (1986-88-90-91-92-93-94-97-2003-06-08)
......................... 11 . 11 . 16 .. 2 .414

Fredonia St. (1994-95-2007) 
.......................... 3 .. 4 .. 4 .. 1 .500

Geneseo St. (1990-2005-06) 3 .. 0 .. 2 .. 2 .250

Gust. Adolphus (1990-91-93) 
.......................... 3 .. 0 .. 4 .. 2 .167

Hobart (2004-06-08) ...... 3 .. 1 .. 3 .. 0 .250

Lake Forest (1991) ....... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Lebanon Valley (2001) .... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Manhattanville (2005-06-07-08)
.......................... 4 .. 1 .. 4 .. 0 .200 

Mass.-Dartmouth (2006-07-08)
.......................... 3 .. 1 .. 3 .. 0 .250 

Mercyhurst (1991) ........ 1 .. 1 .. 1 .. 0 .500 

Middlebury (1995-96-97-98-99-2000-01-02-03-04-05-06-07)
......................... 13 . [B]34[/B] .. 6 .. 2 .833

Minn. St. Mankato (1985-86-90-91-92)
.......................... 5 .. 5 .. 8 .. 3 .406

New England Col. (1984-2001-05)
.......................... 3 .. 1 .. 4 .. 1 .250

Norwich (1987-97-99-2000-02-03-04-06-07-08)
......................... 10 . 16 .. 9 .. 2 .630

Oswego St. (1984-87-88-89-91-98-2003-07)
.......................... 8 .. 8 .. 12 . 0 .400

*Plattsburgh St. (1985-86-87-88-90-92-93-95-97-98-99-2000-01-02-04-08)
......................... [B]16[/B] . 21 . 16 .. 8 .555 

SUNY Potsdam (1996) ...... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000 

Rochester Inst. (1984-85-86-89-94-96-97-98-99-2000-01-02)
......................... 12 . 22 . 15 .. 4 .585

St. Cloud St. (1987) ..... 1 .. 2 .. 2 .. 0 .500 

St. John’s (Minn.) (1996-97-2001-03-05)
.......................... 5 .. 2 .. 7 .. 1 .250

St. Mary’s (Minn.) (1989-95)
…......................... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

St. Norbert (1997-98-99-2002-03-04-05-06-07-08)
......................... 10 . 12 .. 9 .. 1 .568 

St. Olaf (2006) .......... 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

St. Thomas (Minn.) (1984-85-86-88-90-92-94-99-2000-02-04-05-08)
......................... 13 .. 9 . 16 .. 4 .379

Salem St. (1985-87-92-93-94-95)
.......................... 6 .. 6 .. 9 .. 1 .406

Trinity (CT.) (2003-05-08) 3 .. 2 .. 3 .. 0 .400

Union (N.Y.) (1984-85-86-89)
.......................... 4 .. 4 .. 7 .. 1 .375

Wentworth Inst. (2000-02-03-04)
.......................... 4 .. 0 .. 6 .. 0 .000

Wis.-Eau Claire (1989) ... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Wis.-River Falls (1984-88-93-94-95-96-98-2001-03-04-07)
......................... 11 . 22 . 12 .. 0 .647 

Wis.-Stevens Point (1988-89-90-91-92-93-94-95-98)
.......................... 9 . 19 . 12 .. 3 .614

Wis.-Stout (2008) ........ 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000 

Wis.-Superior (1992-93-94-95-96-97-99-2000-01-02-06)
......................... 11 . 23 . 15 .. 3 .598

No 2009 I see?

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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All Time Participation by team:

Team (Years Participated) Yrs. Won Lost Tied Pct.

Amherst (1999-2009) ...... 2 .. 1 .. 3 .. 0 .250 

Augsburg (1984-98) ....... 2 .. 3 .. 4 .. 1 .438

Babson (1984-85-86-87-88-89-90-91-92-93-2007-09)
......................... 12 . 13 . 13 .. 6 .500

Bemidji St. (1985-86-87-88-89) 
.......................... 5 . 11 .. 9 .. 0 .550

Bethel (MN) (2007)........ 1 .. 1 .. 1 .. 0 .500

Bowdoin (1996-2002) ...... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

Colby (1996) ............. 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Concordia-M’head (1987-2000)
.......................... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

Curry (2005) ............. 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

Elmira (1986-88-90-91-92-93-94-97-2003-06-08-09)
......................... 12 . 11 . 17 .. 2 .367

Fredonia St. (1994-95-2007) 
.......................... 3 .. 4 .. 4 .. 1 .500

Geneseo St. (1990-2005-06) 3 .. 0 .. 2 .. 2 .250

Gust. Adolphus (1990-91-93-2009) 
.......................... 4 .. 2 .. 5 .. 2 .333

Hobart (2004-06-08-09) ... 4 .. 3 .. 4 .. 0 .429

Lake Forest (1991) ....... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Lebanon Valley (2001) .... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Manhattanville (2005-06-07-08)
.......................... 4 .. 1 .. 4 .. 0 .200 

Mass.-Dartmouth (2006-07-08)
.......................... 3 .. 1 .. 3 .. 0 .250 

Mercyhurst (1991) ........ 1 .. 1 .. 1 .. 0 .500 

Middlebury (1995-96-97-98-99-2000-01-02-03-04-05-06-07)
......................... 13 . [B]34[/B] .. 6 .. 2 .833

Minn. St. Mankato (1985-86-90-91-92)
.......................... 5 .. 5 .. 8 .. 3 .406

Neumann (2009) ........... 1 .. 4 .. 0 .. 0 1.000

New England Col. (1984-2001-05)
.......................... 3 .. 1 .. 4 .. 1 .250

Nichols (2009) ........... 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

Norwich (1987-97-99-2000-02-03-04-06-07-08)
......................... 10 . 16 .. 9 .. 2 .630

Oswego St. (1984-87-88-89-91-98-2003-07)
.......................... 8 .. 8 .. 12 . 0 .400

*Plattsburgh St. (1985-86-87-88-90-92-93-95-97-98-99-2000-01-02-04-08-09)
......................... [B]17[/B] . 21 . 17 .. 8 .543 

SUNY Potsdam (1996) ...... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000 

Rochester Inst. (1984-85-86-89-94-96-97-98-99-2000-01-02)
......................... 12 . 22 . 15 .. 4 .585

St. Cloud St. (1987) ..... 1 .. 2 .. 2 .. 0 .500 

St. John’s (Minn.) (1996-97-2001-03-05)
.......................... 5 .. 2 .. 7 .. 1 .250

St. Mary’s (Minn.) (1989-95)
…......................... 2 .. 0 .. 4 .. 0 .000

St. Norbert (1997-98-99-2002-03-04-05-06-07-08)
......................... 10 . 12 .. 9 .. 1 .568 

St. Olaf (2006) .......... 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

St. Scholastica (2009) ... 1 .. 0 .. 1 .. 0 .000

St. Thomas (Minn.) (1984-85-86-88-90-92-94-99-2000-02-04-05-08)
......................... 13 .. 9 . 16 .. 4 .379

Salem St. (1985-87-92-93-94-95)
.......................... 6 .. 6 .. 9 .. 1 .406

Trinity (CT.) (2003-05-08) 3 .. 2 .. 3 .. 0 .400

Union (N.Y.) (1984-85-86-89)
.......................... 4 .. 4 .. 7 .. 1 .375

Wentworth Inst. (2000-02-03-04)
.......................... 4 .. 0 .. 6 .. 0 .000

Wis.-Eau Claire (1989) ... 1 .. 0 .. 2 .. 0 .000

Wis.-River Falls (1984-88-93-94-95-96-98-2001-03-04-07)
......................... 11 . 22 . 12 .. 0 .647 

Wis.-Stevens Point (1988-89-90-91-92-93-94-95-98)
.......................... 9 . 19 . 12 .. 3 .614

Wis.-Stout (2008-09) ..... 2 .. 1 .. 2 .. 0 .333 

Wis.-Superior (1992-93-94-95-96-97-99-2000-01-02-06-09)
......................... 12 . 23 . 16 .. 3 .583

Updated to include 2009

 

[norm1909]

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No 2009 I see?

Updated with assistance from CARDS_rule_the_Burgh

 

[Matthew Webb]

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All Time NCAA Tournament Participation by team:

Seeing Middlebury's all-time performance is always enough to astound me. 34-6-2 in hockey is ridiculously good, period, no less in the NCAA tournament. Almost unimaginable.

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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Seeing Middlebury's all-time performance is always enough to astound me. 34-6-2 in hockey is ridiculously good, period, no less in the NCAA tournament. Almost unimaginable.

How's this: 13 straight appearances for '95-'07, and then 2 straight non-appearances in '08 and '09, and it looks like they're going to make it 3 the way they're playing this year.