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The Dead thread - God sorts 'em out!

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">We remember the great Yogi Berra (pictured, r.) who was a big fan of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AHL?src=hash">#AHL</a>'s St. Louis Flyers in the 40s. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RIPYogi?src=hash">#RIPYogi</a> <a href="http://t.co/92vFtyFNWQ">pic.twitter.com/92vFtyFNWQ</a></p>— AHL (@TheAHL) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAHL/status/646646981893468160">September 23, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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Hammer said:
Not even close. For the majority of the great Yankee run of the 50's, up until about 1958-1959, when he was in his prime, Yogi hit clean-up in that order. Not Mantle. It was Yogi. Casey Stengel once said "I never play a game without my man in the lineup". He was referring to Yogi. Reggie Jackson was wrong. Yogi was the straw that stirred the drink. He should have had a 4th MVP in 1950.



There's another one who was better than most people realize.
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A sometimes over looked statistic from the career of Stan Musial is 6134 total bases. Only Henry Aaron had more in the long history of major league baseball. Maybe not in the top 20 all time Home Run hitters, but not too far off with over 470, but not many are listed in both the top 20 for triples and doubles. I think above all the numbers though, he remained a gentleman and a great model for the sport. Yogi did not have the total career numbers that some others put up, but he was another guy who just made the sport look good. You never had to worry much about scandals with either of those.
 
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I think a big reason that Musial is forgotten is because in the 1940's he was overshadowed by Ted Williams and Joe Dimaggio. The 50's were drowned out by the New York teams and their success, while the Cardinals sat out the postseason for the remainder of Musial's career after 1946.

Another one that's going to be in the same boat when the time comes is Frank Robinson
 
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Perhaps I'm not old enough to know where he stood with his peers at the time, but as a baseball fan I've been aware of Musial and what he meant since I can remember. Probably the baseball historian in me so I don't mean to argue that didn't happen - only that I'm surprised.

Similarly I've always known Yogi was more than just a character, but man that's a lot of talent on one team to share the spotlight.
 
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joecct said:
Speaking of Yogi. I got to thinking about the World Series starting in 1949
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So from 1949 - 1958 a NY team was in tbe World Series. For the duration above, at least one team with NYC roots was in the World Series.

For those of us who grew up around NYC during that time, we can be thankful that MLB & NBC did not have a home team blackout for TV like the NFL and NBA.
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And for those of us who didn't grow up around NYC and who hated the Yankees, there wasn't much to be grateful for, except

1960 - Pirates/Yankees
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A World Series day game :eek:. Listened to Mazeroski's home run on a new fangled transistor radio during lunch time.
 
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joecct said:
Speaking of Yogi. I got to thinking about the World Series starting in 1949
1949 - Yankees/Dodgers
1950 - Yankees/Phillies
1951 - Yankees/Giants
1952 - Yankees/Dodgers
1953 - Yankees/Dodgers
1954 - Giants/Indians
1955 - Dodgers/Yankees
1956 - Yankees/Dodgers
1957 - Braves/Yankees
1958 - Yankees/Braves
1959 - Dodgers/White Sox
1960 - Pirates/Yankees
1961 - Yankees/Reds
1962 - Yankees/Giants
1963 - Dodgers/Yankees
1964 - Cardinals/Yankees
1965 - Dodgers/Twins
1966 - Orioles/Dodgers

So from 1949 - 1958 a NY team was in tbe World Series. For the duration above, at least one team with NYC roots was in the World Series.

For those of us who grew up around NYC during that time, we can be thankful that MLB & NBC did not have a home team blackout for TV like the NFL and NBA.
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Sounds like a lot of reasons to not give 2 ****s about baseball during that time.
 
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And of course he played his entire career in St. Louis. No chance of being in NY or Boston where the media machines kept you in the news constantly. Same goes for Fran Robinson. it is often interesting to peruse the old time baseball statistics of some players who are never even talked about. I fully understand the game is different now and so much has changed that it is impossible to compare players over many decades. But never the less, the numbers just stand out.
 
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CLS said:
And for those of us who didn't grow up around NYC and who hated the Yankees, there wasn't much to be grateful for, except



A World Series day game :eek:. Listened to Mazeroski's home run on a new fangled transistor radio during lunch time.
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And it was Yogi in left field who watched Maz's shot sail over the fence at Forbes Field.
 
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CLS said:
And for those of us who didn't grow up around NYC and who hated the Yankees, there wasn't much to be grateful for, except



A World Series day game :eek:. Listened to Mazeroski's home run on a new fangled transistor radio during lunch time.
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Game 4, 1971 World Series is a Day (Night) that will live in Infamy.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Game 6 of the 1987 Series was the last day game.

Game 5 of the 1984 Series was the last day game played outside.
 
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Since baseball is all about stats now, I'd be curious to compare weather data from playoff games over the past 30-40 years.... See if going to prime times games really was detrimental...
 
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Could be. All I know is that the two northernmost cities that have hosted the World Series have been Bloomington, MN and Minneapolis. If the twins somehow make it, it would be the northernmost World Series outdoors since Metropolitan Stadium in 1965. They also finished the second week in October.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Could be. All I know is that the two northernmost cities that have hosted the World Series have been Bloomington, MN and Minneapolis. If the twins somehow make it, it would be the northernmost World Series outdoors since Metropolitan Stadium in 1965. They also finished the second week in October.
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I'd love a Halloween-type Snowstorm, starting about the 3rd inning, when the Twins have a home playoff game. Just to show how ridiculously long the baseball season has become.
 
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