The Barr Has Been Raised at UMaine

[NorthMike]

Well, I wouldn't necessarily call it a "gimmick". The athleticism of modern players has rendered a lot of the traditional rules obsolete.

I remember when a two-line pass stopped play. That was a vestige of a bygone era. Maybe the 5x5 OT is cut from the same cloth.

The game changes over time, doesnt it.
Admittetly not a big fan of the 3x3 at this point but its part of the game and Im staying to watch it anyway, an old dog trying something new I guess. Will see if it takes root with ncaa. The players seem to like it or so they say.
It does seem to be meeting its goal so fans dont leave a game with an unresolved tie, you leave either grumbling about losing in ot or happy with the win. Well "win", just an extra point if it goes to shootout. The team seems to get a boost from the "win".

 

[Fishman'81]

The game changes over time, doesnt it.
Admittetly not a big fan of the 3x3 at this point but its part of the game and Im staying to watch it anyway, an old dog trying something new I guess. Will see if it takes root with ncaa. The players seem to like it or so they say.
It does seem to be meeting its goal so fans dont leave a game with an unresolved tie, you leave either grumbling about losing in ot or happy with the win. Well "win", just an extra point if it goes to shootout. The team seems to get a boost from the "win".

To be clear, I still hate shoot-outs.

A 3x3 OT is a much better option than that, IMO.

 

[Runsub5]

To be clear, I still hate shoot-outs.

A 3x3 OT is a much better option than that, IMO.

I agree. Players like it because of the open ice and the opportunity to show their skills. I have heard that some coaches don't like it because it favors the more skilled team. My response is if the team with more skill is favored why didn't they win in regulation?

 

[ticapnews]

I agree. Players like it because of the open ice and the opportunity to show their skills. I have heard that some coaches don't like it because it favors the more skilled team. My response is if the team with more skill is favored why didn't they win in regulation?

Because in regulation there are 10 skaters clogging up the limited space. In a 3x3 OT the more skilled players have lots of open ice and a better chance to be creative. It doesn't necessarily favor the more skilled *team* though, as it only takes one or two players to dominate that mode, rather than a better team that has several lines of depth and solid defensemen.

 

[Chuck Murray]

Because in regulation there are 10 skaters clogging up the limited space. In a 3x3 OT the more skilled players have lots of open ice and a better chance to be creative. It doesn't necessarily favor the more skilled *team* though, as it only takes one or two players to dominate that mode, rather than a better team that has several lines of depth and solid defensemen.

Precisely this. It's also why the 3x3 (or even 4x4) OT format is a no-go in postseason play.

I've never seen the need to resolve all ties anyway, beyond a 5 or 10 minute OT period.

In relatively low-scoring games, ties will happen. Regular season ties, no big deal.

I agree 100% with the poster(s) who called it a gimmick. JMHO.

 

[BlackBearFan19]

Because in regulation there are 10 skaters clogging up the limited space. In a 3x3 OT the more skilled players have lots of open ice and a better chance to be creative. It doesn't necessarily favor the more skilled *team* though, as it only takes one or two players to dominate that mode, rather than a better team that has several lines of depth and solid defensemen.

I’d have to agree with most of this as well. I think for most of us on here who follow the team so closely, it’s absolutely crushing to see your team lose on a gimmick. I really like 3x3 in the nhl but I don’t follow it as closely. The shootouts should just be gone all together.
The other issue with overtime in college is how the records reflect wins and losses. A 3x3 overtime win is a win and a shootout isn’t? And there’s 3x3 for out of conference play and the winner gets a win? I never had a problem with the ties, if neither team deserves it then let them split the points.

Here’s to hoping Maine can grab their first regulation win today.

 

[ticapnews]

1-0 Lowell after one.

Pro tip for the fans: Wave at the camera, not the video screen...

 

[amkirby10]

Tough to elaborate on just how bad Maine's PP is. 8% coming into tonight, probably about 5% now

 

[Wayuphere]

J.S.S. needs to understand the fact he’s not playing for Red anymore, regardless of what Larry says….

 

[rw1733]

You can't win if you can't score and Maine has no offense.

 

[Drew S.]

I only saw after they replaced the glass so can’t comment on anything before that. My biggest takeaway was why weren’t more people wearing masks? It looked like it was only about 10% which is shocking given where Maine is right now. A lot of people can’t get healthcare and some hospitals are maxed out because of Covid. Were masks not required or were people ignoring the rules?

Its very disappointing to see Maine get shutout again but it seems like they put in a decent enough effort. It is never pretty playing Lowell.

Two massive weekends coming up with four great chances to win. It would be nice to see Maine get at least three wins. Is there a chance Union isn’t allowed to come? Larry mentioned something about there being some sort of new rules in NY.

 

[ticapnews]

I only saw after they replaced the glass so can’t comment on anything before that. My biggest takeaway was why weren’t more people wearing masks? It looked like it was only about 10% which is shocking given where Maine is right now. A lot of people can’t get healthcare and some hospitals are maxed out because of Covid. Were masks not required or were people ignoring the rules?

Its very disappointing to see Maine get shutout again but it seems like they put in a decent enough effort. It is never pretty playing Lowell.

Two massive weekends coming up with four great chances to win. It would be nice to see Maine get at least three wins. Is there a chance Union isn’t allowed to come? Larry mentioned something about there being some sort of new rules in NY.

I have a procedure scheduled at the Brighton Ave hospital this week and even though I am double vaxxed with the booster I still have to have a test Monday. When I had the same procedure two weeks ago they did not require the test, so things are getting worse. It wouldn't shock me if more games suffered the BC/ND fate of this weekend. I feel like Winters in episode 10 of "Band of Brothers" when he lamented that the war was over and his men were still dying. We have a vaccine; it should be under control and yet this disease keeps hanging around and killing people.

I only saw a little but what I saw Maine played well. Very unlucky not to score on the back to back power plays in the third. A couple of high quality chances there. The bounces just aren't going Maine's way (see: Sacred Heart game). The players have to knuckle down and keep at it. Eventually those breaks will come. The danger is if they give up out of frustration. This could be a very long season if that happens.


On another note, I'm very disappointed in the new media guide. Gone are the records vs season opponents, all time records against each school, the tally of goal scorers and winning goalies in each game and worst of all the record of every game Maine has played. Also, any mention of Maine's previous appearances in the NCAA tournament (which Maine won twice, as I recall, but the media guide doesn't mention it). All down the memory hole.

 

[AMC]

On another note, I'm very disappointed in the new media guide. Gone are the records vs season opponents, all time records against each school, the tally of goal scorers and winning goalies in each game and worst of all the record of every game Maine has played. Also, any mention of Maine's previous appearances in the NCAA tournament (which Maine won twice, as I recall, but the media guide doesn't mention it). All down the memory hole.

It's no surprise that Maine can only consistently win games in one or two sports when the entire athletic department is operated on a paperclip and pocket lint.

At some point, the University of Maine needs to decide if it wants to act like it has a Division I athletics program or not. And if the answer is "not" then fine, just bag this whole thing.

 

[NorthMike]

I have a procedure scheduled at the Brighton Ave hospital this week and even though I am double vaxxed with the booster I still have to have a test Monday. When I had the same procedure two weeks ago they did not require the test, so things are getting worse. It wouldn't shock me if more games suffered the BC/ND fate of this weekend. I feel like Winters in episode 10 of "Band of Brothers" when he lamented that the war was over and his men were still dying. We have a vaccine; it should be under control and yet this disease keeps hanging around and killing people.

I only saw a little but what I saw Maine played well. Very unlucky not to score on the back to back power plays in the third. A couple of high quality chances there. The bounces just aren't going Maine's way (see: Sacred Heart game). The players have to knuckle down and keep at it. Eventually those breaks will come. The danger is if they give up out of frustration. This could be a very long season if that happens.


On another note, I'm very disappointed in the new media guide. Gone are the records vs season opponents, all time records against each school, the tally of goal scorers and winning goalies in each game and worst of all the record of every game Maine has played. Also, any mention of Maine's previous appearances in the NCAA tournament (which Maine won twice, as I recall, but the media guide doesn't mention it). All down the memory hole.

I read that masks and vaccine records were required for the game. Surprising that the Cross center didnt enforce the masks, especially in portland. Cumby county is having a surge too.

I noticed the media guide missing big pieces of history a few weeks ago. Didnt understand that.

 

[Chuck Murray]

I have a procedure scheduled at the Brighton Ave hospital this week and even though I am double vaxxed with the booster I still have to have a test Monday. When I had the same procedure two weeks ago they did not require the test, so things are getting worse. It wouldn't shock me if more games suffered the BC/ND fate of this weekend. I feel like Winters in episode 10 of "Band of Brothers" when he lamented that the war was over and his men were still dying. We have a vaccine; it should be under control and yet this disease keeps hanging around and killing people.

Data drawn from Johns Hopkins shows average daily US deaths heading steadily down over the last 60 days, and sharply so in the last week or so. Obviously data across various areas of the country varies, but overall the data is telling us there is good news on a bigger scale. Even the peak back in September was significantly lower than the peaks we hit back in 2020.

Daily confirmed COVID-19 deaths, rolling 7-day average (ourworldindata.org)

Not contesting your personal experience, or the Downeast Maine experience right now - just offering data that is objective and reliable, and not being massaged by national media narratives ...

 

[ticapnews]

It's no surprise that Maine can only consistently win games in one or two sports when the entire athletic department is operated on a paperclip and pocket lint.

At some point, the University of Maine needs to decide if it wants to act like it has a Division I athletics program or not. And if the answer is "not" then fine, just bag this whole thing.

Some people at the university remain convinced that athletics (particularly football) drive financial donations, even though its own internal study in (I think) 2013 found no correlation. Maine (the university and the state) cannot afford athletics the way it is being run. Maybe we can fund football OR ice hockey at the Division I level, but trying to fund both is not working.

 

[Fishman'81]

Some people at the university remain convinced that athletics (particularly football) drive financial donations, even though its own internal study in (I think) 2013 found no correlation. Maine (the university and the state) cannot afford athletics the way it is being run. Maybe we can fund football OR ice hockey at the Division I level, but trying to fund both is not working.

Football has been WAAAY more successful than has hockey for the past 10 years or so.

Having said that, Maine could just go D-3 altogether and drop many sports, but it won't be allowed to play D-1 hockey as an outlier anymore. That ship has sailed with RPI, Union, Clarkson, St. Lawrence, et al on-board back in the day.

(Unless they changed the rules again when I was asleep.)

 

[amkirby10]

Some people at the university remain convinced that athletics (particularly football) drive financial donations, even though its own internal study in (I think) 2013 found no correlation. Maine (the university and the state) cannot afford athletics the way it is being run. Maybe we can fund football OR ice hockey at the Division I level, but trying to fund both is not working.

Last I knew the athletic department fancies themselves a "Northern power" in football, and that the gridiron remains the top priority. A mistake, if you ask me.

 

[umhockey91]

UNH and Vermont are the templates....how are they doing it? UNH is struggling in football and hockey but have turned their men's basketball program around and are in the Sweet 16 in men's soccer. Vermont has a very solid men's basketball program but struggles in hockey. They have made multiple memorable trips to the NCAA tourney in men's hoops.....they also have a successful men's soccer program. Neither has baseball....and Vermont did away with football a long time ago. Maine has $110 million to put into facilities.....neither UNH or Vermont has that although Vermont has plans for a new hoops facility.

 

[BlackBearFan19]

UNH and Vermont are the templates....how are they doing it? UNH is struggling in football and hockey but have turned their men's basketball program around and are in the Sweet 16 in men's soccer. Vermont has a very solid men's basketball program but struggles in hockey. They have made multiple memorable trips to the NCAA tourney in men's hoops.....they also have a successful men's soccer program. Neither has baseball....and Vermont did away with football a long time ago. Maine has $110 million to put into facilities.....neither UNH or Vermont has that although Vermont has plans for a new hoops facility.

Maine's recent football success has clouded judgement for some I think. Outside of JMU and NDSU, are there any FCS programs making money. Unless Maine becomes a perennial power, which is unlikely, I don’t see the point in dumping money into football, let them play the two FBS games a year so they can stay afloat but beyond that, I don’t really think it’s necessary to funnel money there.
Hockey is the only sport at UMaine with a realistic shot on the national stage, it’s been done before and we’ve seen schools that are smaller than Maine and with less history become contenders.

As for yesterday’s game, I thought they played decent and played hard, they just lack scorers right now. Breen was the only guy consistently generating scoring chances with the puck, and that line of Breen, Houle and Mulera showed flashes. I was surprised not to see Morrissey and Poissant in the lineup. I don’t see the point in giving so many minutes to Lindelow and Quinlivan when you have Morrissey and Poissant in the stands. Both those guys have quite a bit of talent. The team is improving though, they can’t score but they do a decent job of protecting their net. The net is Ostman’s for now IMO