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The Barr Has Been Raised at UMaine

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Runsub5 said:
What am I missing when it comes to the Hockey East standings? I thought last night's game was a win in the conference and a tie nationally? The standings have Maine with only one win (6-5 over Merrimack in OT.)
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It makes no sense at all. I wish they would go back to 5x5 ot, no shootout, and only two points on offer each game.
 
Runsub5 said:
What am I missing when it comes to the Hockey East standings? I thought last night's game was a win in the conference and a tie nationally? The standings have Maine with only one win (6-5 over Merrimack in OT.)
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Let me explain. No. There is too much. Let me sum up...

For Hockey East

A regulation win = 3 points
A win in overtime = 2 points
A loss in overtime = 1 point
A loss in regulation = 0 points

For pairwise

A win in regulation or overtime is a win; a win in the shootout is a tie.
A loss in regulation or overtime is a loss; a loss in the shootout is a tie.
 
ticapnews said:
Let me explain. No. There is too much. Let me sum up...

For Hockey East

A regulation win = 3 points
A win in overtime = 2 points
A loss in overtime = 1 point
A loss in regulation = 0 points

For pairwise

A win in regulation or overtime is a win; a win in the shootout is a tie.
A loss in regulation or overtime is a loss; a loss in the shootout is a tie.
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I don’t think this is true. My understanding is an ot win or loss for pairwise is effectively a tie.
 
Drew S. said:
I don’t think this is true. My understanding is an ot win or loss for pairwise is effectively a tie.
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Overtime wins count in the pairwise as wins. For example, tonight's UHN OT win against UMass makes them 1-1 H2H in the pairwise.
The Northeastern-BU game goes as a tie in the pairwise and Northeastern gets the extra Hockey East point for the shootout win. Same as Maine-BC night two.
 
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ticapnews said:
Field hockey wins America East and earns an NC$$ tournament bid. Football wins at Durham for the first time in 20 years. Your turn, hockey and hoops.
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Football finished strong after an injury filled 1-4 start. Wrapped up the season with a 5-1 streak, and the cherry on the top was to hammer UNH in the finale.

Maybe Chuckie will go back into his corner for a while now, which is ANOTHER cherry..? One can only hope.
 
So let me get this straight.

Uconn loss in OT = 1 pt.
Merrimack win in OT = 2 pts.
BC tie in OT = 1 pt,
BC shoot out win = 1 pt.
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Maine total points = 5 pts.
Maine doesn't win the BC game. Each team gets a point for the tie in OT and Maine receives an extra point for winning the shootout. Is the 3 X 3 OT only being used for 1 year?
 
If youre looking at Hockey East standings the shootout wins are in a different column thats hidden on phone view, thats why the 1-6-1 record looks confusing
 
For the pairwise:

an overtime win counts as 55% of a win
an overtime loss counts as 45% of a win
if 3-3 OT ends in a tie and it goes to a shoot out it’s a tie
 
Fishman'81 said:
Football finished strong after an injury filled 1-4 start. Wrapped up the season with a 5-1 streak, and the cherry on the top was to hammer UNH in the finale.

Maybe Chuckie will go back into his corner for a while now, which is ANOTHER cherry..? One can only hope.
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On the flip side ... after winning their first 3 games of the season, Coach MacDonnell's UNH Football Wildcats finished their season on an 8 game losing streak. The fourteen year streak of postseason play is an increasingly distant memory down here in Titletown. Coach has struggled with health issues in recent years, can't help but think UNH Football is nearing the end of an era. Likewise, maybe UMaine Football will be on the rise, with the strong finish this season to build on?

Stay tuned ... in the meantime, UNH Men's Soccer hosts UNC this afternoon in the Round of 32.

Congrats to Coach Barr on the shootout win over BC the other night. Nice bounce-back performance.
 
walrus said:
Are leagues doing the same 3 on 3 stuff in OT?
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I saw that in a D-3 game a few weeks ago. I didn't realize that it was an NCAA thing at the time, and wondered if I'd missed a couple of penalties just before OT...

All that aside, it's a fun format. SOMEBODY is going to win that MF, as opposed to boring "playing not to lose" OT hockey for (sometimes) hours on end.

With only 5 minutes to burn, you can play your 3 best guys throughout. If they need to get a blow and re-group, no change necessary, there's so much open ice to use to withdraw into the neutral zone, or even back into your own zone, and then to attack again. None of the defenders dare chase when there's so much space to pass the puck.

The BIG thing is to win the initial faceoff, cuz if you don't gain possession of the puck then, you might never touch it again.

(Blast from the past: I once (around the turn of the century) saw a Maine 3x3 for maybe 1:54 at UMass, and two of the three guys out there for Maine were your favorite Dipsy-Doodle guys, Keenan Hopson and the other guy. Both had good puck skills, and scored on that one. I don't remember the other guy, but he had hands. Help me out here. I want to say Thompson, but that doesn't sound right.)
 
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Fishman'81 said:
I saw that in a D-3 game a few weeks ago. I didn't realize that it was an NCAA thing at the time, and wondered if I'd missed a couple of penalties just before OT...

All that aside, it's a fun format. SOMEBODY is going to win that MF, as opposed to boring "playing not to lose" OT hockey for (sometimes) hours on end.

With only 5 minutes to burn, you can play your 3 best guys throughout. If they need to get a blow and re-group, no change necessary, there's so much open ice to use to withdraw into the neutral zone, or even back into your own zone, and then to attack again. None of the defenders dare chase when there's so much space to pass the puck.

The BIG thing is to win the initial faceoff, cuz if you don't gain possession of the puck then, you might never touch it again.

(Blast from the past: I once (around the turn of the century) saw a Maine 3x3 for maybe 1:54 at UMass, and two of the three guys out there for Maine were your favorite Dipsy-Doodle guys, Keenan Hopson and the other guy. Both had good puck skills, and scored on that one. I don't remember the other guy, but he had hands. Help me out here. I want to say Thompson, but that doesn't sound right.)
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Billy Ryan? If the 3 on 3 format is so good why don't they do it in the playoffs?
 
walrus said:
Billy Ryan? If the 3 on 3 format is so good why don't they do it in the playoffs?
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3x3 hockey is just a gimmick and has no place in the game of hockey EXCEPT to decide Holiday Tournaments ...a few other good places for it is on PONDS in Minnesota and Canada...stick with either 4x4/5x5 hockey for a 10 minutes overtime during the regular season and if tied, so be it and stay away from another Holiday Tournament gimmick the dreaded Shoot-out. Hockey is such a great game that it needs no gimmicks...and the answer to the COMBO PARTNER to Keenan Hopson was Billy Ryan...the darlings of Tim Whitehead.
 
walrus said:
Billy Ryan? If the 3 on 3 format is so good why don't they do it in the playoffs?
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"Good" is subjective. If the objective is to determine the better team then 5x5 overtime is the best option. If the objective is to decide a winner so the fans leave somewhat satisfied and entertained, then 3x3 overtime followed by a shootout is...an option.
 
Ma#1ne Hky said:
3x3 hockey is just a gimmick and has no place in the game of hockey EXCEPT to decide Holiday Tournaments ...a few other good places for it is on PONDS in Minnesota and Canada...stick with either 4x4/5x5 hockey for a 10 minutes overtime during the regular season and if tied, so be it and stay away from another Holiday Tournament gimmick the dreaded Shoot-out. Hockey is such a great game that it needs no gimmicks...and the answer to the COMBO PARTNER to Keenan Hopson was Billy Ryan...the darlings of Tim Whitehead.
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Well, I wouldn't necessarily call it a "gimmick". The athleticism of modern players has rendered a lot of the traditional rules obsolete.

I remember when a two-line pass stopped play. That was a vestige of a bygone era. Maybe the 5x5 OT is cut from the same cloth.
 
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