Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
So you admit a liberal coverup?
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The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
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Patman
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Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
So, according to the ny post, the administration is indeed considering transferring custody of the blind sheik, abdul-Rahman to Egypt as a goodwill gesture.
Let's recall that the US considers this guy a murderer... The Muslim brotherhood consider him a hero. What the hell is wrong with these people.
Between this and the release of the Pan Am 103 bomber (which we acceded to)... Effing screwballs in the a
State department.
So, according to the ny post, the administration is indeed considering transferring custody of the blind sheik, abdul-Rahman to Egypt as a goodwill gesture.
Let's recall that the US considers this guy a murderer... The Muslim brotherhood consider him a hero. What the hell is wrong with these people.
Between this and the release of the Pan Am 103 bomber (which we acceded to)... Effing screwballs in the a
State department.
Well then, lets be sure to take THIS as gospel!
Reminds me of when Huskyfan posted a link to some nutjob website saying the US signed off on the Lockerbie bomber release, when in fact the exact opposite happened.
Word of advice to all knuckledraggers. In today's 24/7 news cycle, fake stories are easily and quickly debunked, and those pushing them exposed as frauds.
Not to disparag anything you've said, but nothing in the NY Times should be treated as the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth either.
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
The NY Times: "All the news that fits, we print."
The NY Times: "All the news that fits, we print."
A fair point to be sure, although I think they've gotten their reporters making up ficticious interviews ratio down to under 50%.
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
Religion 101 for atheists. (Romney, though crazy and stupid, was right about the Islamists.)
Religion 101 for atheists. (Romney, though crazy and stupid, was right about the Islamists.)
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
I guess I'm not a liberal then because I realize that all religions are different. Mark me down for independent on the religion meter.
I guess I'm not a liberal then because I realize that all religions are different. Mark me down for independent on the religion meter.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
One of the greatest misunderstandings of atheism is that it's a belief system like an organized religion. The entire point of atheism is it's a residual category. It is not a competing candidate in the religion election, it is "None of the Above."
Generalizations about it are prima facie ridiculous.
Even funnier is the conflation of atheism, secularism, and liberalism. They are all completely different things for which there is some overlap of people. Confusing them (either deliberately for political purposes or simply out of ignorance) is like saying "people who like apple pie tend to like ice cream, therefore apple pie IS ice cream!"
One of the greatest misunderstandings of atheism is that it's a belief system like an organized religion. The entire point of atheism is it's a residual category. It is not a competing candidate in the religion election, it is "None of the Above."
Generalizations about it are prima facie ridiculous.
Even funnier is the conflation of atheism, secularism, and liberalism. They are all completely different things for which there is some overlap of people. Confusing them (either deliberately for political purposes or simply out of ignorance) is like saying "people who like apple pie tend to like ice cream, therefore apple pie IS ice cream!"
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Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
but still not as silly as the conflation of "fundies" of completely different religions.
Also, I disagree that by describing "secular liberals", he was necessarily arguing that ALL secularists are liberals or vice versa. The protest was a little too knee jerky on that possible implication which probably wasn't even there.
One of the greatest misunderstandings of atheism is that it's a belief system like an organized religion. The entire point of atheism is it's a residual category. It is not a competing candidate in the religion election, it is "None of the Above."
Generalizations about it are prima facie ridiculous.
Even funnier is the conflation of atheism, secularism, and liberalism. They are all completely different things for which there is some overlap of people. Confusing them (either deliberately for political purposes or simply out of ignorance) is like saying "people who like apple pie tend to like ice cream, therefore apple pie IS ice cream!"
but still not as silly as the conflation of "fundies" of completely different religions.
Also, I disagree that by describing "secular liberals", he was necessarily arguing that ALL secularists are liberals or vice versa. The protest was a little too knee jerky on that possible implication which probably wasn't even there.
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Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
He was probably just referring to the 47%.
He was probably just referring to the 47%.
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
not even close. Those ones are the "bible thumpers", or "the unwashed" if you prefer, who didn't get a degree. Any good secularist will tell you religious and stupid are definitely the same word. and they're all bitter clingers.
not even close. Those ones are the "bible thumpers", or "the unwashed" if you prefer, who didn't get a degree. Any good secularist will tell you religious and stupid are definitely the same word. and they're all bitter clingers.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
explain yourself more fully, if you don't mind. (my uptake isn't as quick as it used to be)
explain yourself more fully, if you don't mind. (my uptake isn't as quick as it used to be)
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
I'm a secularist with two degrees who clings to his guns (a couple times a year, I even go unwashed
). Guess I'm not "good enough"?
I'm a secularist with two degrees who clings to his guns (a couple times a year, I even go unwashed
). Guess I'm not "good enough"?Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
"good enough" for what? Now I'm even more confused than usual.
I'm a secularist with two degrees who clings to his guns (a couple times a year, I even go unwashed
"good enough" for what? Now I'm even more confused than usual.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
Re: The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!
Not a "good" secularist according to your definition. I don't consider my parents "stupid" for continuing their Catholic beliefs. I just don't get it.
Not a "good" secularist according to your definition. I don't consider my parents "stupid" for continuing their Catholic beliefs. I just don't get it.
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