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The 4th Global War on Terror - Deja vu all over again!

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Bob Gray said:
Not every day an argument breaks out on this board pitting mechanical engineering against chemical engineering. All we need is Scooby coming in hear blaming Romney somehow.
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Heat Transfer is a Mechanical Engineering Discipline. I'd go with the Mech E any day of the week and twice on Sunday's.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Heat Transfer is a Mechanical Engineering Discipline. I'd go with the Mech E any day of the week and twice on Sunday's.
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Based upon the studies of the captain of our most recent team to go to the national tournament, I'd go Chem E. :D (although a utility player was Mech)
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Based upon the studies of the captain of our most recent team to go to the national tournament, I'd go Chem E. :D (although a utility player was Mech)
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Both probably work. What's the Heat Transfer course prereq's? 1 Year Thermodynamics and 2 years of Calculus?

Something like that. Both disciplines probably need it.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Both probably work. What's the Heat Transfer course prereq's? 1 Year Thermodynamics and 2 years of Calculus?

Something like that. Both disciplines probably need it.
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Not to mention, some schools (at least RPI does) require interdisciplinary studies. Some choose thermo. I chose strengths of materials, because roads and bridges do interest me.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Heat Transfer is a Mechanical Engineering Discipline. I'd go with the Mech E any day of the week and twice on Sunday's.
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And a UMinn grad would know - my dad got his PhD in heat transfer there under Professor Eckert (who has a heat transfer # named after him). Professor Eckert lived to be almost 100, and he taught many guys who make up what I think of as the "heat exchanger mafia" at many of the large suppliers of HVAC equipment.
 
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Well enough of the Injuneering.....

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ScoobyDoo said:
Both probably work. What's the Heat Transfer course prereq's? 1 Year Thermodynamics and 2 years of Calculus?

Something like that. Both disciplines probably need it.
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I think on the chemical engineering side, a fluids course would also be a prerequisite to heat transfer. I don't know how they organize things on the mechanical side.

LynahFan said:
And a UMinn grad would know - my dad got his PhD in heat transfer there under Professor Eckert (who has a heat transfer # named after him). Professor Eckert lived to be almost 100, and he taught many guys who make up what I think of as the "heat exchanger mafia" at many of the large suppliers of HVAC equipment.
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I'd say that HVAC is largely the domain of MEs, while process heat transfer is largely the domain of chemical engineers. I suspect that both disciplines have similar theoretical backgrounds, but different emphases in the empirical bit and applications that are studied.
 
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I took at least four heat transfer courses in my ChemE curriculum at the U of M. PChem, ChemE thermo, Heat and Mass Transfer, and Transport Phenomena. I suppose you could also count Diffusion and Reactions as heat transfer courses as well. Of course, this doesn't include the basics that all engineers take such as chemistry and physics and the courses I mentioned are the intensive heat transfer courses. I'm not going to include the courses such as Unit Operations or Process Design as heat transfer courses even though they incorporate it quite a bit.

Craig P. said:
I'd say that HVAC is largely the domain of MEs, while process heat transfer is largely the domain of chemical engineers. I suspect that both disciplines have similar theoretical backgrounds, but different emphases in the empirical bit and applications that are studied.
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This is my experience as well. Which is why I said I would love to design the cooling systems because they are more closely related to the processes I deal with on a daily basis than an HVAC unit dropped on the roof. The design of the piping and distribution equipment is right in the wheelhouse of chemical engineers.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
This is my experience as well. Which is why I said I would love to design the cooling systems because they are more closely related to the processes I deal with on a daily basis than an HVAC unit dropped on the roof. The design of the piping and distribution equipment is right in the wheelhouse of chemical engineers.
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I still think you're on crack. Know where my dad, with his PhD in heat transfer, worked? At a large chemical company (13,000 employees), designing processes and plants. Chem Es laid out the process (we need these chemicals to react at at those pressures and temperatures), but Mech Es did all the detailed design of the plants, including the piping and the cooling.

I've worked for 18 years in thermal management and cooling of aircraft electronics and other systems, and I've never even heard of a Chem E who worked in the field.

My jaw would hit the floor if you could find a single Chem E who worked on the cooling system for a Google server farm.
 
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