Opie I'm happy to be considered a Left Wing Hatchet Man! Somebody's got to tell the truth around here.
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The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
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Opie I'm happy to be considered a Left Wing Hatchet Man! Somebody's got to tell the truth around here.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
Is that the truth, or *with Lionel Hutz smile* THE TRUTH!
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Opie I'm happy to be considered a Left Wing Hatchet Man! Somebody's got to tell the truth around here.
Is that the truth, or *with Lionel Hutz smile* THE TRUTH!
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
We can add arguing from ignorance to your "style," since the dredging for the Houston Ship Channel was authorized by Harris County. Ed Markey was nowhere in sight. I would amend your self-description thus: "I am an ignorant smart a*s lefty hatchet man and proud of it."
Again, what difference does the funding mechanism for any of the projects I mentioned have to do with the point that Houston is a city that has a long history of thinking outside the box. You're a child. You think like a child. And you argue like a child. And what's worse, you think that makes you clever. But not so clever you pass up any opportunity to remind people of your cleverness.
Opie I'm happy to be considered a Left Wing Hatchet Man! Somebody's got to tell the truth around here.
We can add arguing from ignorance to your "style," since the dredging for the Houston Ship Channel was authorized by Harris County. Ed Markey was nowhere in sight. I would amend your self-description thus: "I am an ignorant smart a*s lefty hatchet man and proud of it."
Again, what difference does the funding mechanism for any of the projects I mentioned have to do with the point that Houston is a city that has a long history of thinking outside the box. You're a child. You think like a child. And you argue like a child. And what's worse, you think that makes you clever. But not so clever you pass up any opportunity to remind people of your cleverness.
The Exiled One
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
I'll let Rover defend himself regarding the rest of your post, but to be fair, he was making the point that there were substantial federal funds involved in the dredging of the Houston Ship Channel... which is true. He didn't claim the Feds initiated the project.
From wikipedia:
On January 10, 1910, Harris County voted 16-1 to fund dredging the Houston ship channel to a depth of 25 feet (later dredged to a depth of 43–45 feet) for the amount of $1,250,000, which was then matched by federal funds.
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On December 25, 2007, the Houston Ship Channel was featured on the CNN Special, Planet in Peril, as a potential polluter of nearby neighborhoods. That year, the University of Texas released a study suggesting that children living within 2 miles (3.2 km) of the Houston Ship Channel were 56 percent more likely to become sick with leukemia than the national average.[6]
Look Opie, like most old people I'm sure you see the generations that come after you as spoiled and beneath your vast experience. I half expect you to call me a whippersnapper. What you don't understand is your ideology is full of hypocrisy and BS, which is why you struggle to defend it. Houston is a great example. You'll mention how the city is forward looking and all that, but completely gloss over all the taxpayer and federal dollars used to make it that way. So, are you for federal spending on domestic things like that or not? Because if you start cutting 1T a year out of spending, things that you support such as this Houston port project will no longer happen.
EDIT: Kudos to Flag for Lionel Hutz reference! One of my favorite episodes of all time was The Devil and Homer Simpson where he briefly was Homer's defense attorney and started arguing the devil's (Flanders) case by mistake.
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The Exiled One
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
Hey now, pork is only federal spending on UNNECESSARY domestic things. Of course, depending upon who you ask, everything could be unnecessary. I don't doubt the need for those things prescribed in the Constitution, but the rest, IMO, is pork.
Hey now, pork is only federal spending on UNNECESSARY domestic things. Of course, depending upon who you ask, everything could be unnecessary. I don't doubt the need for those things prescribed in the Constitution, but the rest, IMO, is pork.
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
Always attack. Always argue tu quoque, ad hominem and from ignorance. Always change the subject.
From wikipedia:
On January 10, 1910, Harris County voted 16-1 to fund dredging the Houston ship channel to a depth of 25 feet (later dredged to a depth of 43–45 feet) for the amount of $1,250,000, which was then matched by federal funds.
and
On December 25, 2007, the Houston Ship Channel was featured on the CNN Special, Planet in Peril, as a potential polluter of nearby neighborhoods. That year, the University of Texas released a study suggesting that children living within 2 miles (3.2 km) of the Houston Ship Channel were 56 percent more likely to become sick with leukemia than the national average.[6]
Look Opie, like most old people I'm sure you see the generations that come after you as spoiled and beneath your vast experience. I half expect you to call me a whippersnapper. What you don't understand is your ideology is full of hypocrisy and BS, which is why you struggle to defend it. Houston is a great example. You'll mention how the city is forward looking and all that, but completely gloss over all the taxpayer and federal dollars used to make it that way. So, are you for federal spending on domestic things like that or not? Because if you start cutting 1T a year out of spending, things that you support such as this Houston port project will no longer happen.
EDIT: Kudos to Flag for Lionel Hutz reference! One of my favorite episodes of all time was The Devil and Homer Simpson where he briefly was Homer's defense attorney and started arguing the devil's (Flanders) case by mistake.
Always attack. Always argue tu quoque, ad hominem and from ignorance. Always change the subject.
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
As far as I know, Houston's major sporting venues (possible exception of the new soccer stadium) were all built using primarily tax money, though the taxes tend to be more in the nature of car rental and hotel taxes that mainly hit non-residents—I don't think they take anything from sales or property taxes, but I could be mistaken there.
I'm also not sure why OP would have any particular affinity for Houston, considering that the city itself is solidly blue (heck, our mayor's a lesbian) and Harris County as a whole is split just about 50/50 as of the last election.
As far as I know, Houston's major sporting venues (possible exception of the new soccer stadium) were all built using primarily tax money, though the taxes tend to be more in the nature of car rental and hotel taxes that mainly hit non-residents—I don't think they take anything from sales or property taxes, but I could be mistaken there.
I'm also not sure why OP would have any particular affinity for Houston, considering that the city itself is solidly blue (heck, our mayor's a lesbian) and Harris County as a whole is split just about 50/50 as of the last election.
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bigblue_dl
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
I did, the second time. I was too young the first time. I have never denied it, and have never regretted it.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
The same is true here, as well. The only vote I've regretted is the one for McCain in 2008. I should have went third party.
The same is true here, as well. The only vote I've regretted is the one for McCain in 2008. I should have went third party.
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
Ignorance and prejudice. Nice. I voted for Kathy Whitmire for mayor 5 times.
Ignorance and prejudice. Nice. I voted for Kathy Whitmire for mayor 5 times.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
With these people, politics is sort of like college hockey, at least when it comes to the goofers and the sioux (DAMMIT!). Even I've found some good things in Andrew Cuomo, such as actually willing to push towards fiscal responsibility when it comes to NYSUT. His stance on arms is pushing me away from him, however you do have to look at what's important to you.
With these people, politics is sort of like college hockey, at least when it comes to the goofers and the sioux (DAMMIT!). Even I've found some good things in Andrew Cuomo, such as actually willing to push towards fiscal responsibility when it comes to NYSUT. His stance on arms is pushing me away from him, however you do have to look at what's important to you.
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
That is the great thing about ideology...it is always the other guy's ideology that is full of hypocrisy and BS.
Rick Reilly once did a thing along the llines of :
Your coach is a cheating dirtball, my coach pushes the envelope
Your driver is dangerous, my driver is just tradin' paint
Your favorite player is a punk and a felon, my favorite player is colorful
We have a new one:
Your ideology is full of BS and hypocrisy, my ideology is as pure as the driven snow.
That is the great thing about ideology...it is always the other guy's ideology that is full of hypocrisy and BS.
Rick Reilly once did a thing along the llines of :
Your coach is a cheating dirtball, my coach pushes the envelope
Your driver is dangerous, my driver is just tradin' paint
Your favorite player is a punk and a felon, my favorite player is colorful
We have a new one:
Your ideology is full of BS and hypocrisy, my ideology is as pure as the driven snow.
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
Yes, but those two categories are mutually exclusive. you can't be both...by definition!
"hatchet man"
will say or do anything to promote his "side" without regard to "truth" or lack thereof.
Opie I'm happy to be considered a Left Wing Hatchet Man! Somebody's got to tell the truth around here.
Yes, but those two categories are mutually exclusive. you can't be both...by definition!
"hatchet man"
will say or do anything to promote his "side" without regard to "truth" or lack thereof.Yes, but those two categories are mutually exclusive. you can't be both...by definition!
"hatchet man"
Normally this would be the case. The problem is with people like "legitimate rape" Todd Akin and "barter for healthcare with chickens" Sherry Angle, there's no need to stretch the truth. As Harry Truman once said "I'm not giving them hell. I'm giving them the truth and it sounds like hell".
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
Mookie worked for 41s reelection in mrs hillman's Pittsburgh RNC office (a very, very quiet office
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Also the place where Mookie first met dodo former senator Santorum
Mookie worked for 41s reelection in mrs hillman's Pittsburgh RNC office (a very, very quiet office
)Also the place where Mookie first met dodo former senator Santorum
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
They had that little cockup when they didn't exempt cops from their stupid magazine limits. "We gotta do something right now" is almost always a prescription for disaster.
Conservatives like to say that they want the level of government closest to the people to be most active. Kathy Whitmire was a very good mayor, but I would have never voted for her for congress. She absolutely horrified the locals by campaigning in gay bars and appointing a black police chief among other sins. In one memorable campaign a mayoral candidate and several folks wanting to be on city council ran collectively as the "straight slate" (this was at the height of AIDS panic). Well, okay, you're straight, bring anything else to the party? Needless to say, they all lost.
They had that little cockup when they didn't exempt cops from their stupid magazine limits. "We gotta do something right now" is almost always a prescription for disaster.
Conservatives like to say that they want the level of government closest to the people to be most active. Kathy Whitmire was a very good mayor, but I would have never voted for her for congress. She absolutely horrified the locals by campaigning in gay bars and appointing a black police chief among other sins. In one memorable campaign a mayoral candidate and several folks wanting to be on city council ran collectively as the "straight slate" (this was at the height of AIDS panic). Well, okay, you're straight, bring anything else to the party? Needless to say, they all lost.
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
Well, that's the vampire state for you.
Trying to argue with the racism whistle blowers is a lose-lose situation. If you hire a white dude, you're a racist. If you hire someone else, you only hired them because of their race. At least someone is willing to look beyond that.
Well, that's the vampire state for you.
Trying to argue with the racism whistle blowers is a lose-lose situation. If you hire a white dude, you're a racist. If you hire someone else, you only hired them because of their race. At least someone is willing to look beyond that.
Re: The 2nd Term - Round 1 - Diving for Dollars
The hated George W. Bush had an administration that was far more diverse in terms of race and gender than the one that preceded him, and certainly the one that followed him. While we may not agree with every word uttered by General Powell and Condi Rice (proud holder of 2 degrees from DU) you can't argue that they aren't distinguished Americans. Yet, stalwart lefty Harry Belafonte referred to them as "house n-words." From the Congressional Black Caucus, The Revs, the obscure state representative from Illinois and the rest of that claque? Crickets.
The hated George W. Bush had an administration that was far more diverse in terms of race and gender than the one that preceded him, and certainly the one that followed him. While we may not agree with every word uttered by General Powell and Condi Rice (proud holder of 2 degrees from DU) you can't argue that they aren't distinguished Americans. Yet, stalwart lefty Harry Belafonte referred to them as "house n-words." From the Congressional Black Caucus, The Revs, the obscure state representative from Illinois and the rest of that claque? Crickets.
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