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The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`

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Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`

OK, the pecking order for 1 seed is established:

If Ferris State wins tonight and tomorrow, they are the last 1 seed.
If they stumble, Wisconsin is 1 seed with a win the B1G title game.
If they also lose, Quinnipiac is next up and will take the top spot with an ECAC title.
If they also lose, Lowell takes the last top seed with a Hockey East title.
If everyone loses it is back to Ferris.

Also, if you're on Twitter, be careful whom you listen to about the outcomes of various games. There are people out there who don't know but think they do. If you have a question, either do the simulation yourself or ask here. For example, Providence has NOT locked up a spot with Cornell's loss.

ETA: With UAA's loss, Vermont has now locked up a bid. Providence could still miss.
 
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Haven't run the scenario, but I think Vermont is still vulnerable. Cutline is 14. It goes to 12 if UNH and OSU win. Let Colgate and NoDak win also, and I think Vermont might be out.

How does Prov miss now?

Edit. Never mind. That is the very scenario that gets Providence out. Vermont must win their compare in spite of losing RPI.
 
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Numbers said:
Haven't run the scenario, but I think Vermont is still vulnerable. Cutline is 14. It goes to 12 if UNH and OSU win. Let Colgate and NoDak win also, and I think Vermont might be out.

How does Prov miss now?
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Looks like the UND loss has them at a lock. I ran what I think are all the scenarios and they come in at 11 to 13 (even if all the lower seeds win they are 12)
 
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Numbers said:
Haven't run the scenario, but I think Vermont is still vulnerable. Cutline is 14. It goes to 12 if UNH and OSU win. Let Colgate and NoDak win also, and I think Vermont might be out.

How does Prov miss now?
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Prov and VT each still miss about 1/10 remaining scenarios. Not clinched, but close.
 
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If I'm figuring right, I think Colgate punched their ticket with their win tonight, unless there is a scenario out there I'm missing.
 
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JimDahl said:
UND needs to win its consolation game, and needs some favorites (highly ranked teams that would have made the tournament at large) to win their conference tournaments
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Interesting, that's what the buzz was heading into the weekend. When I run the predictor on CHN I don't show them getting far enough up to get in.
 
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I found this to be pretty interesting...

•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Robert Morris def. Niagara
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Canisius def. Robert Morris
•Big Ten Championship: Ohio State def. Wisconsin
•ECAC Championship: Colgate def. Union
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Championship: Miami def. Denver
•NCHC Consolation: North Dakota def. Western Michigan
•WCHA Championship: Ferris State def. Minnesota State

Mankato is out, North Dakota is in...by 0.0001 RPI

1 Minnesota 58 .5937 1 25-6-6 .7568
2 Boston College 57 .5875* 2 26-7-4 .7568
3 Union 55 .5794* 3 27-7-4 .7632
4 Ferris State 55 .5700* 4 29-9-3 .7439
5 Mass.-Lowell 53 .5613* 5 25-10-4 .6923
6 Wisconsin 53 .5583* 6 23-11-2 .6667
7 Quinnipiac 53 .5550 7 24-9-6 .6923
8 Notre Dame 51 .5521* 8 23-14-2 .6154
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5507* 9 21-10-5 .6528
10 Colgate 49 .5480 10 21-12-5 .6184
11 Providence 47 .5461* 11 21-10-6 .6486
12 Vermont 47 .5398 12 20-14-3 .5811
13 North Dakota 46 .5388 13 23-13-3 .6282
AUTO - Ohio State
AUTO - Miami
AUTO - Canisius
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14 Minnesota State 44 .5387 14 25-14-1 .6375
15 Michigan 43 .5377 15 18-13-4 .5714
16 Northeastern 42 .5352 16 19-14-4 .5676
 
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Fighting Sioux 23 said:
I found this to be pretty interesting...

•Atlantic Hockey Semifinal #2: Robert Morris def. Niagara
•Atlantic Hockey Championship: Canisius def. Robert Morris
•Big Ten Championship: Ohio State def. Wisconsin
•ECAC Championship: Colgate def. Union
•Hockey East Championship: Mass.-Lowell def. New Hampshire
•NCHC Championship: Miami def. Denver
•NCHC Consolation: North Dakota def. Western Michigan
•WCHA Championship: Ferris State def. Minnesota State

Mankato is out, North Dakota is in...by 0.0001 RPI

1 Minnesota 58 .5937 1 25-6-6 .7568
2 Boston College 57 .5875* 2 26-7-4 .7568
3 Union 55 .5794* 3 27-7-4 .7632
4 Ferris State 55 .5700* 4 29-9-3 .7439
5 Mass.-Lowell 53 .5613* 5 25-10-4 .6923
6 Wisconsin 53 .5583* 6 23-11-2 .6667
7 Quinnipiac 53 .5550 7 24-9-6 .6923
8 Notre Dame 51 .5521* 8 23-14-2 .6154
9 St. Cloud State 50 .5507* 9 21-10-5 .6528
10 Colgate 49 .5480 10 21-12-5 .6184
11 Providence 47 .5461* 11 21-10-6 .6486
12 Vermont 47 .5398 12 20-14-3 .5811
13 North Dakota 46 .5388 13 23-13-3 .6282
AUTO - Ohio State
AUTO - Miami
AUTO - Canisius
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14 Minnesota State 44 .5387 14 25-14-1 .6375
15 Michigan 43 .5377 15 18-13-4 .5714
16 Northeastern 42 .5352 16 19-14-4 .5676
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Well, that ruined my night! Thanks!
 
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Strange that the third place game will have 3-4K more fans then the night cap.
 
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MagnessMan said:
Don't you fret. The Broncos are going to bounce back tomorrow afternoon and sending the Greenies packing.
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Probably. Western already beat us in a meaningless game for them, while we were trying to win the Penrose Cup. Why not win another meaningless game with our NCAA Tournament hopes on the line?

At least Miami should pound Denver tomorrow. That will help ease the sting of the loss. :p:D:D
 
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Providence and Vermont are still not locks.
Cornell and Northeastern are eliminated.
Colgate is the 10th team into the tournament. A win tomorrow and they likely get a 2 seed in Worcester. Go figure.
Ohio State, New Hampshire and the LTHC (and AHA) need the autobid.
Teams still alive for bubble and playing: Mankato and North Dakota.
Teams still alive for bubble and done: Vermont, Providence, Michigan
The cut line is now 14.

All favorites win tomorrow: Vermont/Mankato/Michigan in, NoDak out
An Ohio State or New Hampshire win = Michigan out as well
Ohio State AND New Hampshire win = Mankato out as well.
Ohio State AND New Hampshire AND Mankato win = Vermont out.
 
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Priceless said:
Providence and Vermont are still not locks.
Cornell and Northeastern are eliminated.
Colgate is the 10th team into the tournament. A win tomorrow and they likely get a 2 seed in Worcester. Go figure.
Ohio State, New Hampshire and the LTHC (and AHA) need the autobid.
Teams still alive for bubble and playing: Mankato and North Dakota.
Teams still alive for bubble and done: Vermont, Providence, Michigan
The cut line is now 14.

All favorites win tomorrow: Vermont/Mankato/Michigan in, NoDak out
An Ohio State or New Hampshire win = Michigan out as well
Ohio State AND New Hampshire win = Mankato out as well.
Ohio State AND New Hampshire AND Mankato win = Vermont out.
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Thanks Priceless.
 
Re: The 2014 Pairwise, Bracketology and History Thread`

Priceless said:
Providence and Vermont are still not locks.
Cornell and Northeastern are eliminated.
Colgate is the 10th team into the tournament. A win tomorrow and they likely get a 2 seed in Worcester. Go figure.
Ohio State, New Hampshire and the LTHC (and AHA) need the autobid.
Teams still alive for bubble and playing: Mankato and North Dakota.
Teams still alive for bubble and done: Vermont, Providence, Michigan
The cut line is now 14.

All favorites win tomorrow: Vermont/Mankato/Michigan in, NoDak out
An Ohio State or New Hampshire win = Michigan out as well
Ohio State AND New Hampshire win = Mankato out as well.
Ohio State AND New Hampshire AND Mankato win = Vermont out.
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Just curious how is UVM out with Ohio State, New Hampshire and Mankato winning ? They end up 12th in that scenario don't they?
 
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