ericredaxe
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
Very cool, I didn't know that... gotta give credit where it's due.
Very cool, I didn't know that... gotta give credit where it's due.
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The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
Then don't forget about our transsexual shuffleboard team.
Then don't forget about our transsexual shuffleboard team.
Carmine Scarpaglia
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
I'm not sure you're good at researching these Forbes list thingies... did you make sure this one wasn't several years old?
rover ownage
I'm not sure you're good at researching these Forbes list thingies... did you make sure this one wasn't several years old?
rover ownage
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TonyTheTiger20
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BC averaged 35,716 fans per home game this year. We have 9,081 undergraduates.
Our attendance is 393% of our enrollment. BC would have placed #2 in the country out of the top 25 teams in the country in terms of attendance/enrollment had we not sucked and actually been in the top 25.
But no. We had over 35,000 fans at our football games in our worst season since I've been a student. And we have only 9,000 undergrads. But no, no one goes to our games.
I know you're talking about bowl games, but it's the same deal. We're a small school. We have WAY less alumni and family of alumni etc. etc. to travel to games.
You guys are delusional. Keep trying though, it makes you look even more stupid. I like that.
Gee, the fact that we're a small private school with only 9,000 undergraduates wouldn't have anything to do with us having less fans travel than other schools, would it?
BC averaged 35,716 fans per home game this year. We have 9,081 undergraduates.
Our attendance is 393% of our enrollment. BC would have placed #2 in the country out of the top 25 teams in the country in terms of attendance/enrollment had we not sucked and actually been in the top 25.
But no. We had over 35,000 fans at our football games in our worst season since I've been a student. And we have only 9,000 undergrads. But no, no one goes to our games.
I know you're talking about bowl games, but it's the same deal. We're a small school. We have WAY less alumni and family of alumni etc. etc. to travel to games.
You guys are delusional. Keep trying though, it makes you look even more stupid. I like that.
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Thiessen'sBetter
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
Everyone knows BC and BU have the best quidditch rivalry in the county:
http://www.bu.edu/today/arts-entertainment/2008/11/12/not-harry-potter-not-problem
http://www.bc.edu/offices/pubaf/news/quidditch_cup_tournament_at_bc2009_1005.html
Once again, Northeastern is inferior
Everyone knows BC and BU have the best quidditch rivalry in the county:
http://www.bu.edu/today/arts-entertainment/2008/11/12/not-harry-potter-not-problem
http://www.bc.edu/offices/pubaf/news/quidditch_cup_tournament_at_bc2009_1005.html
Once again, Northeastern is inferior
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Yikes, is this the 2000s equivalent of Star Trek conventions!?
Everyone knows BC and BU have the best quidditch rivalry in the county:
http://www.bu.edu/today/arts-entertainment/2008/11/12/not-harry-potter-not-problem
http://www.bc.edu/offices/pubaf/news/quidditch_cup_tournament_at_bc2009_1005.html
Once again, Northeastern is inferior
Yikes, is this the 2000s equivalent of Star Trek conventions!?
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
ESPN put a BC play from the basketball game today #1 on the SportsCenter Top 10. Clearly it was just to reinforce how irrelevant we are.
Those jerks.
ESPN put a BC play from the basketball game today #1 on the SportsCenter Top 10. Clearly it was just to reinforce how irrelevant we are.
Those jerks.
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
And BU Hockey had the #1 play of the night on ESPN last Saturday. How's that for irrelevance!
And BU Hockey had the #1 play of the night on ESPN last Saturday. How's that for irrelevance!
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
And it was for college hockey. No one outside of our (awesome) little circle gives a rat's furry tail.And BU Hockey had the #1 play of the night on ESPN last Saturday. How's that for irrelevance!
DaveStPaul
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
You know, there was once another man people called "delusional." His name? Mohatma Gandhi. Think about it.
You know, there was once another man people called "delusional." His name? Mohatma Gandhi. Think about it.
Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
So we found all the hatred, eh? It was just hiding, waiting for the Beanpot thread...
For people that claim to be so much smarter than each other we sure do have retarded arguments here. Why do we even talk about academics and who could get into what schools?
Overall academically I'm pretty sure Harvard has the win on us all but if you had to rank the Beanpot schools academically I think you'd find it hard to argue with
1. Harvard
2. BC
3. BU
4. NU
Someone from BU could probably say, "Well if we dropped CGS..." but the truth is CGS is a real thing and it doesn't seem to be going away and while it would close the BC/BU gap I doubt it would close it all the way. Some NU person may try to trot out that often quoted acceptance statistic but I've never been sure why the Huskies think that's how you judge the academic quality of the school...
But let's be honest, all four of these schools are doing pretty darn well on the national scene. Last time I checked (I think) all four are ranked top 100 nationally by all the major lists (as dumb as those lists may be). I don't see why we all have this addiction to saying, "Oh you could NEVER get in to the school I go to even though you want to!" For a group of people that should be pretty smart that's just... stupid, and I hope nobody thinks they're serious about it.
The problem is overall academic quality has nothing to do with smart a person that goes to a certain school is. We all went through the college application process and we all know how individual it is. Frankly I could have walked into BC or NU for my major and received considerable scholarships at either but I didn't want to because they weren't good programs for me. SteveF, I don't doubt you could have gotten into BU (you've always struck me as plenty smart and certainly are a far more observant hockey fan than most) if you wanted to but you obviously made a choice to go to BC... that doesn't mean every single person at BU, or even just the posters on this forum, could not have gone to BC. The same goes BU people claiming everybody from NU couldn't have gotten into BU... And I dare say a couple of us could even have gone to Harvard if we wanted. This argument we always have about academics is absolutely retarded. Some people want to go to BC, don't get in, and go to BU... some people want to go to BU, don't get it, and go to BC... some people never applied to BU because they never wanted to go there... and so on, but that's no reason for us to bring all this academic **** talking on to a hockey forum.
...Steve, Nick, Tony and Joe have already said it but I'll say it from a BU standpoint... anybody at BU who's not jealous of BC's athletics program is dumb, or just really doesn't like basketball or football. The Eagle's bball and football programs have national prominence. Sure that 2004 Big East title isn't all that great and they've never advanced further than the Elite Eight but can you say anything anywhere close to that about BU? We talk about Superfans not traveling well but I'm sure they travel better now than BU fans would if we suddenly had a football team again, and they travel better for basketball (I saw it in Winston Salem in 2007) than we do... Heck their basketball and football fans probably travel better than our hockey fans. I've been to BC games @ Notre Dame Stadium and they do travel... maybe not in huge numbers, but they do. I'm pretty sure there were three current students at Alfond for the Maine v BU game.
They play in a real conference and they seriously compete in it... BU has failed to garner much basketball respect in a conference where a school like it should be able to run the table. Obviously this stems from the fact that the administration doesn't care about the athletics program (outside of that one sport.. you know, with the ice) but, assuming that's true, we should be jealous of the fact that BC's administration DOES care about the athletics program. I've attended a school with a real athletics program and not having competitive basketball and football teams on campus is definitely a blow to the community, that's why everybody at BU was so struck when the football program was canceled.
By now I don't know what my point is... maybe that since this is a hockey rivalry being discussed on a hockey forum we should talk about hockey, it's just so pointless to talk about other things, unless I'm mistaken that's still the sports these four schools are the best at on a national level... if you don't count Harvard Golf.
I guess I'm saying these rivalries don't really exist outside of Hockey.. so why take them there? Of course I'm always going to root against BC basketball and football, but I'll never tell you BU is somehow better at those things.
Whatever, I'm done trying to make a point... resume flaming.
So we found all the hatred, eh? It was just hiding, waiting for the Beanpot thread...
For people that claim to be so much smarter than each other we sure do have retarded arguments here. Why do we even talk about academics and who could get into what schools?
Overall academically I'm pretty sure Harvard has the win on us all but if you had to rank the Beanpot schools academically I think you'd find it hard to argue with
1. Harvard
2. BC
3. BU
4. NU
Someone from BU could probably say, "Well if we dropped CGS..." but the truth is CGS is a real thing and it doesn't seem to be going away and while it would close the BC/BU gap I doubt it would close it all the way. Some NU person may try to trot out that often quoted acceptance statistic but I've never been sure why the Huskies think that's how you judge the academic quality of the school...
But let's be honest, all four of these schools are doing pretty darn well on the national scene. Last time I checked (I think) all four are ranked top 100 nationally by all the major lists (as dumb as those lists may be). I don't see why we all have this addiction to saying, "Oh you could NEVER get in to the school I go to even though you want to!" For a group of people that should be pretty smart that's just... stupid, and I hope nobody thinks they're serious about it.
The problem is overall academic quality has nothing to do with smart a person that goes to a certain school is. We all went through the college application process and we all know how individual it is. Frankly I could have walked into BC or NU for my major and received considerable scholarships at either but I didn't want to because they weren't good programs for me. SteveF, I don't doubt you could have gotten into BU (you've always struck me as plenty smart and certainly are a far more observant hockey fan than most) if you wanted to but you obviously made a choice to go to BC... that doesn't mean every single person at BU, or even just the posters on this forum, could not have gone to BC. The same goes BU people claiming everybody from NU couldn't have gotten into BU... And I dare say a couple of us could even have gone to Harvard if we wanted. This argument we always have about academics is absolutely retarded. Some people want to go to BC, don't get in, and go to BU... some people want to go to BU, don't get it, and go to BC... some people never applied to BU because they never wanted to go there... and so on, but that's no reason for us to bring all this academic **** talking on to a hockey forum.
...Steve, Nick, Tony and Joe have already said it but I'll say it from a BU standpoint... anybody at BU who's not jealous of BC's athletics program is dumb, or just really doesn't like basketball or football. The Eagle's bball and football programs have national prominence. Sure that 2004 Big East title isn't all that great and they've never advanced further than the Elite Eight but can you say anything anywhere close to that about BU? We talk about Superfans not traveling well but I'm sure they travel better now than BU fans would if we suddenly had a football team again, and they travel better for basketball (I saw it in Winston Salem in 2007) than we do... Heck their basketball and football fans probably travel better than our hockey fans. I've been to BC games @ Notre Dame Stadium and they do travel... maybe not in huge numbers, but they do. I'm pretty sure there were three current students at Alfond for the Maine v BU game.
They play in a real conference and they seriously compete in it... BU has failed to garner much basketball respect in a conference where a school like it should be able to run the table. Obviously this stems from the fact that the administration doesn't care about the athletics program (outside of that one sport.. you know, with the ice) but, assuming that's true, we should be jealous of the fact that BC's administration DOES care about the athletics program. I've attended a school with a real athletics program and not having competitive basketball and football teams on campus is definitely a blow to the community, that's why everybody at BU was so struck when the football program was canceled.
By now I don't know what my point is... maybe that since this is a hockey rivalry being discussed on a hockey forum we should talk about hockey, it's just so pointless to talk about other things, unless I'm mistaken that's still the sports these four schools are the best at on a national level... if you don't count Harvard Golf.
I guess I'm saying these rivalries don't really exist outside of Hockey.. so why take them there? Of course I'm always going to root against BC basketball and football, but I'll never tell you BU is somehow better at those things.
Whatever, I'm done trying to make a point... resume flaming.
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Federal League
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
1) BU basketball made the Elite Eight in 1959.
2) Myself and four other BU students traveled to Notre Dame for BU basketball. I'm still not sure why, but we did.
3) There were six current students at Alfond. Half of us just happened to work for the FreeP.
1) BU basketball made the Elite Eight in 1959.
2) Myself and four other BU students traveled to Notre Dame for BU basketball. I'm still not sure why, but we did.
3) There were six current students at Alfond. Half of us just happened to work for the FreeP.
SteveF
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we're back! we've turned the corner!!
did they win? i saw they were up big early on tonight (was it 42-22 or something
we're back! we've turned the corner!!
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
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A couple minor points I'll touch on:
Forbes 2009 (which uses a WAY better system to rate schools than US News):
#5 Harvard
#16 Boston College
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#342 Boston University
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#593 Northeastern University
As good as your post was (and I did think it was very good) I just find it hard to believe that if BU was the superior institution and not BC, that you wouldn't be sitting there telling us BC fans about how much better your school is. And it would p!$$ me off to no end. Which is the whole point of it all. Let's face it, this thread has the sole purpose of discussing a tournament that features two of the best rivalries in sports. Are we not supposed to act like rivals in this thread?
In sum:
It's a rivalry. And a heated one at that.
Wow.
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Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ that was a good post. Seriously.
A couple minor points I'll touch on:
Not even close.
Forbes 2009 (which uses a WAY better system to rate schools than US News):
#5 Harvard
#16 Boston College
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#342 Boston University
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#593 Northeastern University
Come on now. Nothing? I think you'll find that students at Yale will tend to be smarter than students at Bunker Hill Community College. There are outliers, of course, but smarter kids do in fact tend to go to schools with higher academic quality.
I don't think anyone would claim that. I think it's true that in general, a given student has a much better chance of getting rejected from BC than BU.
That may be so, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think that FAR fewer students get rejected from BU and go to BC than get rejected from BC and go to BU.
I understand where you're coming from, but this is a rivalry. And it's a fierce rivalry. We hate each other. And we here at the esteemed institution of higher learning called Boston College believe that we are better than you BC rejects, and want you to know it. It's a rivalry.
As good as your post was (and I did think it was very good) I just find it hard to believe that if BU was the superior institution and not BC, that you wouldn't be sitting there telling us BC fans about how much better your school is. And it would p!$$ me off to no end. Which is the whole point of it all. Let's face it, this thread has the sole purpose of discussing a tournament that features two of the best rivalries in sports. Are we not supposed to act like rivals in this thread?
In sum:
It's a rivalry. And a heated one at that.
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TonyTheTiger20
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
Not for nothing, but there were about twenty of us BC students at Lowell on Saturday.
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Says the guy with a player's name in his handle.
::raises hand as exception:: though i wasn't the one bringing up that debate. we can save that for June flamefests on scout.
and to your points about bu basketball sucking, I'd like to tell you a story about a man named Dennis Wolff.
Like Gibber? Admittedly, our students this year have been struggling at times.
I've read a lot of your posts on here this season. I'm sorry for being so blunt, but frankly, you're a moron. BU played great hockey that night if they were mites.
1. Rawlings' game of his life included about 25 of 43 shots that he would've had to make an attempt NOT to stop. He could've been blindfolded and stopped 60% of the shots he faced.
2. Yes, I would like to go into the injury argument because Warsofsky and Bonino are leaps and bounds better than anyone on your roster, so losing them > you not having a bunch of mediocre skaters. This plus Gryba was playing injured for us that game.
3. BU played timid and unsure of themselves all night long. We had a bazillion opportunities and blew them all. Granted, our lines were jumbled to hell that night, LUKE POPKO was our starting center (he's our checking line center FYI) and of all the skaters who dressed that night, 8 of them were on the ice in DC. Rawlings made some nice saves on the few chances we got a stick on, but the number of whiffs and missed connections was laughable.
Basically, there was no great hockey played by BU that night and using a Jack Parker press conference comment to back your statement is boneheaded.
It brings up the question of nature vs. nurture. Are fanboys born or are they made through their environment?
Says the guy with a player's name in his handle.
::raises hand as exception:: though i wasn't the one bringing up that debate. we can save that for June flamefests on scout.
and to your points about bu basketball sucking, I'd like to tell you a story about a man named Dennis Wolff.
Like Gibber? Admittedly, our students this year have been struggling at times.
I've read a lot of your posts on here this season. I'm sorry for being so blunt, but frankly, you're a moron. BU played great hockey that night if they were mites.
1. Rawlings' game of his life included about 25 of 43 shots that he would've had to make an attempt NOT to stop. He could've been blindfolded and stopped 60% of the shots he faced.
2. Yes, I would like to go into the injury argument because Warsofsky and Bonino are leaps and bounds better than anyone on your roster, so losing them > you not having a bunch of mediocre skaters. This plus Gryba was playing injured for us that game.
3. BU played timid and unsure of themselves all night long. We had a bazillion opportunities and blew them all. Granted, our lines were jumbled to hell that night, LUKE POPKO was our starting center (he's our checking line center FYI) and of all the skaters who dressed that night, 8 of them were on the ice in DC. Rawlings made some nice saves on the few chances we got a stick on, but the number of whiffs and missed connections was laughable.
Basically, there was no great hockey played by BU that night and using a Jack Parker press conference comment to back your statement is boneheaded.
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I can pick and choose rankings too, then back them up with vague and unsubstantiated comments about their arbitrary worth compared to other arbitrary rankings!
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/hybrid.asp?typeCode=144
The ranking system is soooooo much better here.
I can pick and choose rankings too, then back them up with vague and unsubstantiated comments about their arbitrary worth compared to other arbitrary rankings!
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/hybrid.asp?typeCode=144
The ranking system is soooooo much better here.
Federal League
I like hockey.
Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
That's probably about the same as what BU had for Lowell and Merrimack. It's one thing to make a 35-minute drive to Lowell or North Andover, though. It's another to make a 4-hour drive up to Orono and back for one game.
That's probably about the same as what BU had for Lowell and Merrimack. It's one thing to make a 35-minute drive to Lowell or North Andover, though. It's another to make a 4-hour drive up to Orono and back for one game.
TonyTheTiger20
#SOAR
Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
I wasn't just talking about this year.
lawlz
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: The 2010 Beanpot: Featuring One Team Under Consideration
Humorously enough, even though it was a two game road series we didn't stay for both games because we had a football game to be at the day of the second game!
The issue with traveling student hockey fans is usually less an issue of who is a big enough fan to go and more an issue of who has transportation to get you there. Parking at BC for students is somewhere between ridiculous and nonexistent. I would guess that it's probably a similar situation at BU.
The diehard students at both schools are probably very similar in size and dedication. This is really kind of a pointless argument I started for no reason. I offer a draw on this particular fight.
You are all still, however, inferior BC rejects.
I stand by what I said, Forbes has one of the best systems of ranking schools. Have you looked into it? It's mostly based on things like how happy the students are, how likely you are to get a job after graduation, average starting salary, etc. Way better than US News, which has things like alumni donations. Who gives a crap?
Okay, okay, I'll be fair... There were exactly three BC students at the game I went to in Orono this year.
Humorously enough, even though it was a two game road series we didn't stay for both games because we had a football game to be at the day of the second game!
The issue with traveling student hockey fans is usually less an issue of who is a big enough fan to go and more an issue of who has transportation to get you there. Parking at BC for students is somewhere between ridiculous and nonexistent. I would guess that it's probably a similar situation at BU.
The diehard students at both schools are probably very similar in size and dedication. This is really kind of a pointless argument I started for no reason.
I offer a draw on this particular fight.You are all still, however, inferior BC rejects.
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