Team USA--WJC

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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I have to agree with that assessment. While there may be a few 19 year-olds who could play at the WJC, I think a majority of the Canadians in the NCAA are late-bloomers who are too old for this tournament. North of the border, if they rocket to the top of the scouting rankings by 16 or 17, they're almost always going the CHL route.

 

[mnstate0fhockey]

You're right that with the lockout there was an overabundance of talent available. I think the overarching issue is the "battle" between the NCAA and CHL and that's keeping Hockey Canada's mind set on only going with junior players.

I just think they need to change that mindset in the future and look at some guys playing D-1 that might have the skills.

I'd like to be there when someone has this discussion with Don Cherry

 

[dggoddard]

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Canada had 10 first round draft picks on their team, but did they have the right 10 first round draft picks.

Craig Patrick: "You're missing the best players."

Herb Brooks: "I'm not looking for the best players, Craig, I'm lookin' for the right ones."

 

[SteveP]

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I'd like to be there when someone has this discussion with Don Cherry

I've met Grapes - maybe I can get him on one of our broadcasts. That would be fun!

 

[SteveP]

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Canada had 10 first round draft picks on their team, but did they have the right 10 first round draft picks.

Up until Thursday I would have said yes. Brooks had it right - the best players aren't always the best fit.

 

[Thecalkid]

In terms of Canadian-born/NCAA players eligible for the WJC, please name a few candidates who could have made that team with 1993 or 1994 birthdates?

Phil DiGiuseppe of Michigan was invited to the summer camp, but a combination of a very slow 1st half and NHL players being locked out, he had no chance to be invited to the December tryout. DiGiuseppe played himself off the first line for a struggling Michigan team.



BC freshman Mike Matheson may be invited next year, but too young this year. Other freshman like Jankowski at Providence and Shore at Maine are not making huge impacts so far.

I can't think of any others candidates. That kind of shows the lack of Canadian talent the NCAA is pulling from Ontario, BC and Alberta. Maybe teams are shying away too with all the players that defect to the CHL.

How about Jujhar Khaira from mtu?

 

[GopherBigGuy911]

Those who do not have a NTDP background...
Backup goalies: Gillies (Prov), Sparks (OHL)

Defense: Gotisbehere (Union), Reilly (MN)

Forwards: Galchenyuk (OHL), Gaudreau (BC), Kuraly (Miami), Lucia (MN), Trochek (OHL), Vesey (Hvd)

Great for team USA, but it would be even better for certain college programs if some of these players had honored their LOI's (Gibson - Michigan), (Murphy/Sieloff/Hartman/Biggs - Miami), (Miller - NoDak) and went to college, but can't get them all. The talent level in college hockey would have been helped as their is a leak at the top with about 30 players a year turning pro, then we had a couple summers where many recruits defected to the CHL.

The CCHA is **** lucky Miami doesn't have those 4 weapons....

 

[GopherBigGuy911]

@THNRyanKennedy: Awkward: Apparently Sweden, Team USA, Canada and Finland are on the same charter flight out of Ufa tonight.

But is Steve Spott?

Did Canada even make the flight to Russia????.

 

[Biddco]

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How about Jujhar Khaira from mtu?

If you want a guy who is great at causing penalties...that would be a great fit!

 

[Thecalkid]

If you want a guy who is great at causing penalties...that would be a great fit!

He's learning! Btw he played in the bchl before and do you know what that means he has to adjust to refs in the NCAA which aren't as lenient.

 

[Dirty]

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He's learning! Btw he played in the bchl before and do you know what that means he has to adjust to refs in the NCAA which aren't as lenient.

And International refs are even less lenient. He'd spend more time in the box than on the ice with his current style of play.

Dillion Simpson from UND could've been a candidate for the Canadian Camp.

 

[Thecalkid]

And International refs are even less lenient. He'd spend more time in the box than on the ice with his current style of play.

Dillion Simpson from UND could've been a candidate for the Canadian Camp.

Like I said he's learning

 

[Dirty]

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Like I said he's learning

You can afford to have a player who is learning on a college or junior team, you can't on a international tournament team.

 

[Thecalkid]

You can afford to have a player who is learning on a college or junior team, you can't on a international tournament team.

Next year?

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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Dude, Canada will have much better options than JJ. Besides which, if he's going to keep up his play at the GLI, we want him there.

 

[cross cheque]

Dude, Canada will have much better options than JJ. Besides which, if he's going to keep up his play at the GLI, we want him there.

I think something that needs to said is how awesome Pietella played in this tournament, kudos to him.

 

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I think something that needs to said is how awesome Pietella played in this tournament, kudos to him.

A big role, indeed. Few fans ever sing the praises of the defensive forwards. Without that entire fourth line playing their energy game, it's doubtful the US wins the gold.

 

[Rob]

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It's true. Canada did not medal in this tournament for the first time in 14 years.

How will Canadian men make love to their wives?

 

[Dirty]

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It's true. Canada did not medal in this tournament for the first time in 14 years.

How will Canadian men make love to their wives?

The same way they always have. Give them a salt lick to keep them occupied, climb a step stool, and go at it.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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The same way they always have. Give them a salt lick to keep them occupied, climb a step stool, and go at it.

I died laughing. Posts like this are why Dirty is worth keeping around.