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St Lawrence Hockey
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critsports
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Ouch.......tough one to let get away.
Ouch.......tough one to let get away.
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By the way, my biggest question after last night is: When did Elle MacPherson start playing for Clarkson?
Hey at least Brian and I got our 2 points for the tie in the ECAC Pickem contest.
By the way, my biggest question after last night is: When did Elle MacPherson start playing for Clarkson?
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That we did, but it feels like a loss to me. I enjoyed chatting with you, Bill, and Joe during the game. I'm still laughing over some of the comments that were made.
Hey at least Brian and I got our 2 points for the tie in the ECAC Pickem contest
That we did, but it feels like a loss to me. I enjoyed chatting with you, Bill, and Joe during the game. I'm still laughing over some of the comments that were made.
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We had Brown 3-0 late in the 2nd in November. Final was 3-3. We let RIT score 2 in the final 4 minutes to win. The team just doesn't seem to be able to seal the deal. The lines have been shaken frequently, with no consistent positive results. I think a lot of the problem is that much of this team was brought in to play Coach Marsh's system, but now they're playing Coach Carvel's. The two systems don't look the same to me. Give him a couple years to get players in who play his way-then there will be a difference.
We had Brown 3-0 late in the 2nd in November. Final was 3-3. We let RIT score 2 in the final 4 minutes to win. The team just doesn't seem to be able to seal the deal. The lines have been shaken frequently, with no consistent positive results. I think a lot of the problem is that much of this team was brought in to play Coach Marsh's system, but now they're playing Coach Carvel's. The two systems don't look the same to me. Give him a couple years to get players in who play his way-then there will be a difference.
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It's just really frustrating is all. I understand it has happened before, but this game was pretty crucial and 3-0 in the 3rd against your arch-rival, there just should have been more of a killer instinct to finish that one off. But I think saintsdad summed it up best when he said the difference between Carvel and Marsh's systems may seem to be the problem. All I meant was that something doesn't seem to be meshing well with this team and there needs to be a shake up. Not necessarily anything too serious, but adjust the lines and get back to basics. Hopefully we can straighten this out, there is still plenty of season left.
It's just really frustrating is all. I understand it has happened before, but this game was pretty crucial and 3-0 in the 3rd against your arch-rival, there just should have been more of a killer instinct to finish that one off. But I think saintsdad summed it up best when he said the difference between Carvel and Marsh's systems may seem to be the problem. All I meant was that something doesn't seem to be meshing well with this team and there needs to be a shake up. Not necessarily anything too serious, but adjust the lines and get back to basics. Hopefully we can straighten this out, there is still plenty of season left.
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Or it may be the coach's inability to effectively relate to, motivate, develop and inspire his team individually and collectively. Not a NHL assistant coach anymore. Big difference in the job requirements. He may grow and develop. Time will tell. So far, I am not impressed.
Or it may be the coach's inability to effectively relate to, motivate, develop and inspire his team individually and collectively. Not a NHL assistant coach anymore. Big difference in the job requirements. He may grow and develop. Time will tell. So far, I am not impressed.
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And this may very well end up being the case as well, but as others have stated this may not be fair considering he has only had half of a season to prove himself. Time will indeed tell.
And this may very well end up being the case as well, but as others have stated this may not be fair considering he has only had half of a season to prove himself. Time will indeed tell.
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Blaming the coaches is a joke. To say between one of the smartest kids to every where a Saint uniform and one of the hardest working most disciplined players as the associate head coach are the cause is utterly ridiculous! This game turned on a penalty against SLU that gave Clarkson a PP goal and some momentum. I believe it is player related. Since Carvel took over the PP looks MUCH better. The system they play is effective. It comes down to execution...and discipline. I remember Joe Marsh starting 0-7 like it was yesterday with a Sophomore class laden with talent that produced 4 All-Americans (depending on what class you put Yearwood in). These coaches went toe to toe with a very good Western Michigan team and skated Maine off their own ice. Coaches job is to prepare a team. The team was prepared. They got a 3-0 lead and it should have been over. I am pretty sure the coaches didn't tell Doherty to take a penalty or to get outworked and outshot in the 3rd and OT. The one thing that might be on the coaches is the lack of depth, but sometimes that is playing the hand you are dealt....they expected to have Matt Carey in the line up and found out late they had to wait a year.
I for one have complete faith in Carvy and Hurley. There will be some disappointing results. That is just reality. It doesn't mean there isn't talent. It doesn't mean we don't have some top players and it doesn't mean we don't have outstanding coaching. It just means that all it takes to have a blown lead is a few bad shifts from a team that is still figuring it out and has some holes.
Blaming the coaches is a joke. To say between one of the smartest kids to every where a Saint uniform and one of the hardest working most disciplined players as the associate head coach are the cause is utterly ridiculous! This game turned on a penalty against SLU that gave Clarkson a PP goal and some momentum. I believe it is player related. Since Carvel took over the PP looks MUCH better. The system they play is effective. It comes down to execution...and discipline. I remember Joe Marsh starting 0-7 like it was yesterday with a Sophomore class laden with talent that produced 4 All-Americans (depending on what class you put Yearwood in). These coaches went toe to toe with a very good Western Michigan team and skated Maine off their own ice. Coaches job is to prepare a team. The team was prepared. They got a 3-0 lead and it should have been over. I am pretty sure the coaches didn't tell Doherty to take a penalty or to get outworked and outshot in the 3rd and OT. The one thing that might be on the coaches is the lack of depth, but sometimes that is playing the hand you are dealt....they expected to have Matt Carey in the line up and found out late they had to wait a year.
I for one have complete faith in Carvy and Hurley. There will be some disappointing results. That is just reality. It doesn't mean there isn't talent. It doesn't mean we don't have some top players and it doesn't mean we don't have outstanding coaching. It just means that all it takes to have a blown lead is a few bad shifts from a team that is still figuring it out and has some holes.
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Another commitment:
Woody Hudson, F from Chicago (USHL). Grew up in Rochester, NY, 6-3 215lbs. Had committed to RIT last winter, then changed to Cornell last summer. Feels good to steal a recruit from TinyMike.
39 gp this year between Indiana and Chicago, 21 points (14-7), 28pim.
Another commitment:
Woody Hudson, F from Chicago (USHL). Grew up in Rochester, NY, 6-3 215lbs. Had committed to RIT last winter, then changed to Cornell last summer. Feels good to steal a recruit from TinyMike.
39 gp this year between Indiana and Chicago, 21 points (14-7), 28pim.
critsports
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Hope he sticks to his commitment this time. Big road weekend coming up. Dartmouth will be tough after going through a bit of a swoon themselves. Harvard is struggling but at home they will be tough. A split is needed. I'd love to see more than that but less than that is possible as well if we don't play our best.
Hope he sticks to his commitment this time. Big road weekend coming up. Dartmouth will be tough after going through a bit of a swoon themselves. Harvard is struggling but at home they will be tough. A split is needed. I'd love to see more than that but less than that is possible as well if we don't play our best.
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Any idea if he is set for this coming freshmen class or the following?
Any idea if he is set for this coming freshmen class or the following?
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According to the tweet machine, he will be coming this Fall.
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While I respect your right to state your opinion, mine is the exact opposite. I am extremely impressed. Joe's status was unclear for a small portion or all of the last-2 seasons, making it difficult to recruit because we had one less coach available to beat the bushes and logic tells me that potential recruits were hestitant to commit while not knowing who the head coach/coaching staff would be. And, having Matt Carey unavailable this season was an unexpected setback. Despite all this, we stand just one game below .500 and that is remarkable to me during this transition period. Kudos to the coaches and the players.
We need to give this more time going forward. Speaking of time and going forward, I see that we have another winger incoming this fall. I really believe that we have a top-10 recruiting class for the fall, and the credit for that lies with the coaching staff in my opinion.
Rome wasn't built in a day (just ask Q'Pac).
While I respect your right to state your opinion, mine is the exact opposite. I am extremely impressed. Joe's status was unclear for a small portion or all of the last-2 seasons, making it difficult to recruit because we had one less coach available to beat the bushes and logic tells me that potential recruits were hestitant to commit while not knowing who the head coach/coaching staff would be. And, having Matt Carey unavailable this season was an unexpected setback. Despite all this, we stand just one game below .500 and that is remarkable to me during this transition period. Kudos to the coaches and the players.
We need to give this more time going forward. Speaking of time and going forward, I see that we have another winger incoming this fall. I really believe that we have a top-10 recruiting class for the fall, and the credit for that lies with the coaching staff in my opinion.
Rome wasn't built in a day (just ask Q'Pac).
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Also on the tweet machine, goalie Tyler Parks from Minot in the NAHL has committed. Haven't seen an arrival date for him. .922 save percentage, hasn't lost in 10 OT games, and has won 7 of 9 shootouts.
Also on the tweet machine, goalie Tyler Parks from Minot in the NAHL has committed. Haven't seen an arrival date for him. .922 save percentage, hasn't lost in 10 OT games, and has won 7 of 9 shootouts.
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I would think Chris Heisenberg's sheet would be the best source of information. http://hockeyrecruits4u.wordpress.c...u-2014-2016-1996-and-1997-birth-year-players/
I would think Chris Heisenberg's sheet would be the best source of information. http://hockeyrecruits4u.wordpress.c...u-2014-2016-1996-and-1997-birth-year-players/
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Here's a bit more on Tyler Parks, from the Minot website:
Working overtime
Tauros red hot after regulation
December 27, 2012
By MIKE KRAFT - Staff Writer (mkraft@minotdailynews.com) , Minot Daily News
Don't look now but the Minot Minotauros are tied for third place with Brookings (S.D.) with 32 points and are only one game behind rival Bismarck for second as they Tauros hit the halfway point of their schedule.
At 15-13-2 overall, the Tauros have a firm grip on a playoff spot, sitting 11 points ahead of Coulee Region for the fourth and final postseason berth out of the NAHL Central Division.
As the weather grew colder the Tauros got hotter. In November and December, Minot posted a 12-3 record which included a six-game winning streak. The two-month stretch produced nearly twice as many victories as the Tauros had all last season, when Minot won just seven games.
The Tauros' success the last two months can be primarily attributed to one thing - shootout success.
"We practice it a ton," assistant coach and goaltending specialist Terry Dunbar said. "You can't afford not to practice it. Our goalies have been pretty spot on. It's been fun to watch."
Minot has found success in goaltenders Tyler Parks and Ryan Ruck. Although Parks has started more than twice the games Ruck has this season and played nearly three times the minutes, Ruck is making the most of his opportunities. The California native has won his last two starts and is coming off a 4-0 shutout at Coulee Region last Thursday in which he made a career-high 30 saves.
"They're very contrasting styles of goalies," Dunbar said. "Tyler covers so much net. In 1-on-1 scenarios it's tough to beat that type of coverage. It's unbelievable. When you really need to lean on a guy, you can count on him."
Parks has been the go-to goalie for Minot, winning 12 of his 20 starts this season. Parks' numbers are nearly identical to his 2011-12 season with NAHL North Division Springfield (Ill.). With the Jr. Blues, Parks started 20 games and registered a 12-9-1 record. He had a 2.75 goals against average and a .917 save percentage. This season in the same amount of starts, Parks is 12-7-1, allowing 2.56 goals per contest and stopping 92 percent of shots faced.
"He's a monster," Tauros coach Marty Murray said. "He's a big guy who plays his position well. There's not much net to shoot at."
When the game is on the line, most notably in shootouts, both goaltenders have shined. The Tauros are 7-1 in shootouts, winning their first six. Ruck won his only shootout appearance back in September against Fresno. He stopped three of five shots and helped the Tauros win their first game of the season.
Parks has been in net for the other seven shootouts. His first shootout experience in a Tauros jersey went 12 rounds against Fresno. Parks stopped 10 of 12 shots to earn the victory - the first of five straight wins in shootouts for Parks. In his last three shootout wins, Parks has not allowed an opponent to tally a goal in the extra period (13-for-13). Parks and Ruck have combined to stop 35 of 46 shots in shootouts.
"That gives the boys a lot of confidence," Dunbar said. "Between the two of them, there's not many tandems who are as strong as what we have."
Making life easier for the two goaltenders has been the play of Minot's shooters. The Tauros have scored 19 goals in shootouts, eight more than Austin, who has the second-most goals. Minot's .422 shootout goal percentage is the third highest in the NAHL behind only Bismarck (.444) and Texas (.583).
Nine different Tauros have scored a shootout goal, led by Cameron Rowat, Steven Sherman and Matt Audette, who all have a team-high four tallies.
"Sherman and Rowat have some good offensive techniques," Murray said. "They've all scored big goals in shootouts for us. Steve and Cameron will pick apart the goalie if they give them room to. Matt has a couple of moves he'll go to."
Dunbar said the players' confidence is apparent leading up to the shootouts. In the idle moments between the end of overtime and the start of the shootout, Dunbar said the players are typically loose with smiles on their faces, while the opposition is on edge.
Despite all the success in shootouts, Murray hopes to have more victories end in regulation to avoid giving the opposition unnecessary points in the standings.
The Tauros host Brookings on Friday at 7:35 p.m. The two are tied for third place in the NAHL Central Division.
Here's a bit more on Tyler Parks, from the Minot website:
Working overtime
Tauros red hot after regulation
December 27, 2012
By MIKE KRAFT - Staff Writer (mkraft@minotdailynews.com) , Minot Daily News
Don't look now but the Minot Minotauros are tied for third place with Brookings (S.D.) with 32 points and are only one game behind rival Bismarck for second as they Tauros hit the halfway point of their schedule.
At 15-13-2 overall, the Tauros have a firm grip on a playoff spot, sitting 11 points ahead of Coulee Region for the fourth and final postseason berth out of the NAHL Central Division.
As the weather grew colder the Tauros got hotter. In November and December, Minot posted a 12-3 record which included a six-game winning streak. The two-month stretch produced nearly twice as many victories as the Tauros had all last season, when Minot won just seven games.
The Tauros' success the last two months can be primarily attributed to one thing - shootout success.
"We practice it a ton," assistant coach and goaltending specialist Terry Dunbar said. "You can't afford not to practice it. Our goalies have been pretty spot on. It's been fun to watch."
Minot has found success in goaltenders Tyler Parks and Ryan Ruck. Although Parks has started more than twice the games Ruck has this season and played nearly three times the minutes, Ruck is making the most of his opportunities. The California native has won his last two starts and is coming off a 4-0 shutout at Coulee Region last Thursday in which he made a career-high 30 saves.
"They're very contrasting styles of goalies," Dunbar said. "Tyler covers so much net. In 1-on-1 scenarios it's tough to beat that type of coverage. It's unbelievable. When you really need to lean on a guy, you can count on him."
Parks has been the go-to goalie for Minot, winning 12 of his 20 starts this season. Parks' numbers are nearly identical to his 2011-12 season with NAHL North Division Springfield (Ill.). With the Jr. Blues, Parks started 20 games and registered a 12-9-1 record. He had a 2.75 goals against average and a .917 save percentage. This season in the same amount of starts, Parks is 12-7-1, allowing 2.56 goals per contest and stopping 92 percent of shots faced.
"He's a monster," Tauros coach Marty Murray said. "He's a big guy who plays his position well. There's not much net to shoot at."
When the game is on the line, most notably in shootouts, both goaltenders have shined. The Tauros are 7-1 in shootouts, winning their first six. Ruck won his only shootout appearance back in September against Fresno. He stopped three of five shots and helped the Tauros win their first game of the season.
Parks has been in net for the other seven shootouts. His first shootout experience in a Tauros jersey went 12 rounds against Fresno. Parks stopped 10 of 12 shots to earn the victory - the first of five straight wins in shootouts for Parks. In his last three shootout wins, Parks has not allowed an opponent to tally a goal in the extra period (13-for-13). Parks and Ruck have combined to stop 35 of 46 shots in shootouts.
"That gives the boys a lot of confidence," Dunbar said. "Between the two of them, there's not many tandems who are as strong as what we have."
Making life easier for the two goaltenders has been the play of Minot's shooters. The Tauros have scored 19 goals in shootouts, eight more than Austin, who has the second-most goals. Minot's .422 shootout goal percentage is the third highest in the NAHL behind only Bismarck (.444) and Texas (.583).
Nine different Tauros have scored a shootout goal, led by Cameron Rowat, Steven Sherman and Matt Audette, who all have a team-high four tallies.
"Sherman and Rowat have some good offensive techniques," Murray said. "They've all scored big goals in shootouts for us. Steve and Cameron will pick apart the goalie if they give them room to. Matt has a couple of moves he'll go to."
Dunbar said the players' confidence is apparent leading up to the shootouts. In the idle moments between the end of overtime and the start of the shootout, Dunbar said the players are typically loose with smiles on their faces, while the opposition is on edge.
Despite all the success in shootouts, Murray hopes to have more victories end in regulation to avoid giving the opposition unnecessary points in the standings.
The Tauros host Brookings on Friday at 7:35 p.m. The two are tied for third place in the NAHL Central Division.
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That's just my nickname for Twitter, Tayt. From there it is all dependant on who you "follow". Mike McKenna is the one who happened to mention this, as Parks is originally from the St. Louis area.
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