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SOLDIER FIELD 2013 • Wisconsin vs. Minnesota & Miami vs. Notre Dame

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mnstate0fhockey said:
Very cool rink Gurt!
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Thanks!

It was fun and worth the work, at least for a while. Had lights up in the trees too.

Got pretty darn good at making smooth as can be outdoor ice - and there are some tricks to it. ;)

25 x 45 feet. To make it bigger, would have had to cut down trees, which obviously wasn't gonna happen. Loved my towering pines - except when they'd drop needles all over the ice which would then melt into the surface.
 
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I skated outdoors as a kid too, and even tried my hand at building an outdoor skating rink in the backyard, even though my mom was incorrectly afraid of some permanent damage to the grass or her flowers, or something. And Gurt did touch on my mindset pretty well too. I think the outdoor stuff is over done in that for the majority of people virtually all of their hockey is played indoors. And for what hockey they did play outdoors, it was done on well maintained rinks, often in public parks (like the two in my neck of the woods) and not so much on the proverbial pond.

At one time every single house in Indiana had a hoop up somewhere. Nailed to the barn. Beside the driveway. Over the garage. In Michigan (where I grew up) too. We had one over the garage, and the first purchase I ever made for the first house I ever bought was a basketball hoop that my dad and installed. I didn't know any kid that didn't play his or her fair share of driveway basketball. Yet it was only when hockey started playing their 50 or 60 over publicized outdoor games a year that we've seen basketball try to cash in and play a few. There were at least a couple (men's and women's, Notre Dame scheduled one) at the beginning of this season.

It's interesting to me to see 100,000 people watching a hockey game. There's nothing wrong with an event for the event's sake, or a little spectacle, if you call it that and only that. I just don't like the way it is presented as some return to a nostalgic time that few actually took part in, and for those that did, the overwhelming majority of their hockey was still indoors and well organized.
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
I skated outdoors as a kid too, and even tried my hand at building an outdoor skating rink in the backyard, even though my mom was incorrectly afraid of some permanent damage to the grass or her flowers, or something. And Gurt did touch on my mindset pretty well too. I think the outdoor stuff is over done in that for the majority of people virtually all of their hockey is played indoors. And for what hockey they did play outdoors, it was done on well maintained rinks, often in public parks (like the two in my neck of the woods) and not so much on the proverbial pond.

At one time every single house in Indiana had a hoop up somewhere. Nailed to the barn. Beside the driveway. Over the garage. In Michigan (where I grew up) too. We had one over the garage, and the first purchase I ever made for the first house I ever bought was a basketball hoop that my dad and installed. I didn't know any kid that didn't play his or her fair share of driveway basketball. Yet it was only when hockey started playing their 50 or 60 over publicized outdoor games a year that we've seen basketball try to cash in and play a few. There were at least a couple (men's and women's, Notre Dame scheduled one) at the beginning of this season.

It's interesting to me to see 100,000 people watching a hockey game. There's nothing wrong with an event for the event's sake, or a little spectacle, if you call it that and only that. I just don't like the way it is presented as some return to a nostalgic time that few actually took part in, and for those that did, the overwhelming majority of their hockey was still indoors and well organized.
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We have outdoor high school hockey games every year as part of Hockey Day Minnesota and they are a big hit. Pond hockey is pretty big in Minny too and the World Pond Hockey Championships played in Minneapolis every year are really well attended. There has been a lot of clamoring herefor a Gopher outdoor game and for a Winter Claasic.

So, I guess I disagree. I think it depends on the situation and where you are at.

As for the nostalgia comment, again, it depends on the situation and where you are from. The Gophers played outdoors for years in the early days before the program became a sanctioned varsity sport, so it does go back to the old days of outdoor hockey for our program.

<b><u>Minneapolis Ariel, February 16, 1895. Page 5:</u></b>

<I>
“The University of Minnesota hockey team will play a game for the championship of Minneapolis against the Minneapolis Hockey Club at their rink, at the corner of Fourth Avenue and Eleventh Street South. The game is preparatory to the game to be played Monday afternoon by Winnipeg and the University of Minnesota. Winnipeg is champion of the world.* Winnipeg has returned from a rough trip through eastern Canada and has defeated without too much trouble Montréal, Toronto, Victoria, Ottawa, Québec, and the Limestone’s. The University started practice two or three weeks ago and played against a Minneapolis team, being defeated 4-1. A week and one half ago that they defeated the same team 6-4. Tonight they play the tie off for the championship. Dr. H.A. Parkyn has been coaching the boys every afternoon. He has a couple of stars in Willis Walker and Russell.
Walker plays point and Russell cover-point, with Van Campen in goal. Parkyn
and Albert are center forwards. Dr. Parkyn’s long experience with the Victoria
team of Toronto, one of the best, makes him a fine player. Thompson and
Head, the other two forwards, are old ice polo players and skate fast and pass
well. Van Campen, quarterback on last year's football team, plays goal well.
Many tickets have been sold for tonight’s and also Monday's game. Tickets
are $.25, ladies come free. The excitement of these games is intense, and
surpasses that at a football game.”
</I>

<IMG SRC="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb28/VintageMinnesotaHockey/Ice%20Arenas/AthleticParkMinneapolis.jpg"></>
 
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I guess long story short what I'm trying to say is I love the outdoor games and can't get enough of them. Sure, the sight lines are much worse than you get in indoor arenas and there are (at least in this case) conference points on the line, but I love watching the game out in the elements. I love the atmosphere, I love my favorite sport and favorite team being on a big stage, and I love that the games tie back to the history of the game. Yes, hockey was at one time ONLY played outdoors.

Let's just enjoy this. It's our program's first outdoor game in varsity history and I can't wait until we get one in Minny or get to be a part of another one at say Michigan.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
25 x 45 feet. To make it bigger, would have had to cut down trees, which obviously wasn't gonna happen. Loved my towering pines - except when they'd drop needles all over the ice which would then melt into the surface.
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Perfect size for learning the neutral zone trap...
 
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goldy_331 said:
We had outdoor practice Monday and again tonight for my bantam son. Of course when he was a mite most of the practices and games were outside.
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Huh? Maybe in a tiny town thirty years ago. I'm from a small town in northern Minnesota and very few kids play outside anymore. We've went from five outdoor rinks to one, the city just bulldozes them. My son plays and I don't believe the association has had a single hockey practice or game outdoors for years.
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
I guess long story short what I'm trying to say is I love the outdoor games and can't get enough of them. Sure, the sight lines are much worse than you get in indoor arenas and there are (at least in this case) conference points on the line, but I love watching the game out in the elements. I love the atmosphere, I love my favorite sport and favorite team being on a big stage, and I love that the games tie back to the history of the game. Yes, hockey was at one time ONLY played outdoors.

Let's just enjoy this. It's our program's first outdoor game in varsity history and I can't wait until we get one in Minny or get to be a part of another one at say Michigan.
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By all means, enjoy it!

Well as much as you can watching your team lose 2-1 due to 5 disallowed goals... :p
 
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SanTropez said:
Perfect size for learning the neutral zone trap...
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I can't think of a comeback right now. Well done! :D
 
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goldy_331 said:
Along with crappy ice.
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Why would that be? I'm assuming the ice sheet is chilled (since they're down south) and they'll have a Zamboni. Otherwise, you're going to need temps no warmer in the teens to flood.
 
Golden Tuuk said:
Huh? Maybe in a tiny town thirty years ago. I'm from a small town in northern Minnesota and very few kids play outside anymore. We've went from five outdoor rinks to one, the city just bulldozes them. My son plays and I don't believe the association has had a single hockey practice or game outdoors for years.
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Very common in the Twin Cities. Not enough indoor ice to go around. It's better than it used to be in EP since they added to additional indoor sheets, but I imagine there are still plenty of outdoor practices. And every time I go back I see plenty of kids skating on the outdoor rinks.
 
mnstate0fhockey said:
Very common in the Twin Cities. Not enough indoor ice to go around. It's better than it used to be in EP since they added to additional indoor sheets, but I imagine there are still plenty of outdoor practices. And every time I go back I see plenty of kids skating on the outdoor rinks.
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In St. Paul, Palace playground is reserved most week nights for youth organizations. My girls U8 team practiced there last night. Additionally, Groveland - with it's two rinks - is busy most week nights with organized youth hockey.

FWIW, I was raised in a St. Paul suburb and played in the community league. And always outside. Didn't play regularly inside until 9th grade (1974).
 
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Golden Tuuk said:
Why would that be? I'm assuming the ice sheet is chilled (since they're down south) and they'll have a Zamboni. Otherwise, you're going to need temps no warmer in the teens to flood.
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Sun or rain. Did you see the photos from Omaha? If it's cloudy and not too warm, it should be decent, with sun the chiller won't keep up and it'll get soft and rutted pretty quick. If it rains, it'll be slush.
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
<b><u>Minneapolis Ariel, February 16, 1895. Page 5:</u></b>
<I>
“The University of Minnesota hockey team will play a game for the championship of Minneapolis against the Minneapolis Hockey Club at their rink, at the corner of Fourth Avenue and Eleventh Street South.
</I>

<IMG SRC="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb28/VintageMinnesotaHockey/Ice%20Arenas/AthleticParkMinneapolis.jpg"></>
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Did they win? Is there a banner up for it? :p
 
mnstate0fhockey said:
We have outdoor high school hockey games every year as part of Hockey Day Minnesota and they are a big hit. Pond hockey is pretty big in Minny too and the World Pond Hockey Championships played in Minneapolis every year are really well attended. There has been a lot of clamoring herefor a Gopher outdoor game and for a Winter Claasic.

So, I guess I disagree. I think it depends on the situation and where you are at.

As for the nostalgia comment, again, it depends on the situation and where you are from. The Gophers played outdoors for years in the early days before the program became a sanctioned varsity sport, so it does go back to the old days of outdoor hockey for our program.

<b><u>Minneapolis Ariel, February 16, 1895. Page 5:</u></b>

<I>
“The University of Minnesota hockey team will play a game for the championship of Minneapolis against the Minneapolis Hockey Club at their rink, at the corner of Fourth Avenue and Eleventh Street South. The game is preparatory to the game to be played Monday afternoon by Winnipeg and the University of Minnesota. Winnipeg is champion of the world.* Winnipeg has returned from a rough trip through eastern Canada and has defeated without too much trouble Montréal, Toronto, Victoria, Ottawa, Québec, and the Limestone’s. The University started practice two or three weeks ago and played against a Minneapolis team, being defeated 4-1. A week and one half ago that they defeated the same team 6-4. Tonight they play the tie off for the championship. Dr. H.A. Parkyn has been coaching the boys every afternoon. He has a couple of stars in Willis Walker and Russell.
Walker plays point and Russell cover-point, with Van Campen in goal. Parkyn
and Albert are center forwards. Dr. Parkyn’s long experience with the Victoria
team of Toronto, one of the best, makes him a fine player. Thompson and
Head, the other two forwards, are old ice polo players and skate fast and pass
well. Van Campen, quarterback on last year's football team, plays goal well.
Many tickets have been sold for tonight’s and also Monday's game. Tickets
are $.25, ladies come free. The excitement of these games is intense, and
surpasses that at a football game.”
</I>

<IMG SRC="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb28/VintageMinnesotaHockey/Ice%20Arenas/AthleticParkMinneapolis.jpg"></>
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You can see as much of the rink here as you can at the Kohl Center.
 
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SanTropez said:
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Well, I'm sure he wanted his kid to be a Badger...:D

When I was growing up we'd go down to the park and play basketball/soccer/baseball in the summer. In the winter, we'd go down to the park to play hockey...definitely miss those days.
 
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mnstate0fhockey said:
Very common in the Twin Cities. Not enough indoor ice to go around.
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Of course. That didn't even dawn on me being in a small town with a two sheet indoor complex. Just to derail this a bit more, I'd say the Mites here have at least three hours of practice plus three more in open time dedicated just to their age group. Plus three to six more of open hockey for any age if they choose. I don't know if that's considered a lot. Maybe they should be going outside!




Anyhoo, if that sheet's not chilled in Chicago and it's over 25F the ice will be soft and we will see numerous groin injuries.
 
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HarleyMC said:
Negative...after their abysmal start, all games after Christmas break were MUST wins for the BADgers.:D 8-2-2 this half is the best run the BADgers have put together all season. Twice as many OT games than the Gophers though, an indication they're not really burying teams early. I expect both a defensive and goalie battle. But the Gophers should have the clear edge on offense and the PP, IF they play with a sense of urgency.
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that's all true but they've been winning in spite of themselves really. this team is very difficult to watch even when they do manage to win
 
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