JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Me too. I see what he is saying about the U of M being the largest school in the biggest hockey state, but I don't think anyone is denying that this is a major factor in why the Gophers have a large fan base.
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Sioux vs Gophers - Sioux invade the John...
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Me too. I see what he is saying about the U of M being the largest school in the biggest hockey state, but I don't think anyone is denying that this is a major factor in why the Gophers have a large fan base.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
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This kid is so deluded that he thinks he's an Iowa fan. Don't expect him to make any sense.
This kid is so deluded that he thinks he's an Iowa fan. Don't expect him to make any sense.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Typical Mankato student...absolutely clueless...
Crap. I set myself up for that pretty bad.
Tipsy McStagger
Falling on fans at NHC since 2001
I am basing the claim on attendance. Attendance at the Final Five, attendance at Mariucci, attendance at REA, and attendance at the NHC when the Gophers and Sioux play there. I am an SCSU fan. I dont like the Sioux, and I know that every fanbase has diehards and casual fans. I just want JDubbs to get of his high horse and quit acting like the Gopher hockey fanbase is greater than any other, which he also did in the Super League thread.You apparently do given the post that followed this question.
So what exactly are you basing this claim on - fan (mis)behavior or non-attendance? In the first case, any large fanbase (including UND's) has plenty of dip****s in it (we've all seen that screen shot of a guy flicking off the Michigan player in last spring's F4). In the second case, UND almost certainly endured a period of **** attendance in the early to mid '90s (which was the last time they had a prolonged period of crappy teams). The point? Every program has its down periods which correspond to lackluster fan support.
It's quite humorous reading such an idiotic claim here. Some of the Gopher fans posting on here have loyally followed the program for 40 years or more. I'm not that old, and I'm approaching 25 years as an active Gopher fan (no small feat since I'm not originally from the twin cities). The simple fact of the matter is every team has a smaller core group of diehards that will pay attention throughout the season year after year no matter how bad the team is and a much larger group of hangers-on that are only lukewarm about it and will do or watch something else when the program falls on hard times. The challenges regarding attendance are numerous here and have been covered many times in the past. I won't waste time dealing with them again, but I will mention the ones that matter to me personally and explain why I don't attend the games anymore at Mariucci. It really boils down to the fact that the experience is not worth the cost. A ticket + parking will run about $50 per game. Given the fact the atmosphere there typically is terrible (due to a number of factors), I just don't view it as worth my money, particularly when I can see the game on a 60" HD screen with surround sound at home for nothing.
But by all means, please continue with your nonsensical judgment of another group of hockey fans. If REA was run identically to Mariucci, you probably wouldn't want to attend games there, either.
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JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Who said they were better than anyone else. They have one of the bigger fan bases (if not the biggest). If not, why college hockey's largest TV contract?
Tipsy McStagger
Falling on fans at NHC since 2001
Probably because the Twin cities media market is much bigger than the ones in Madison and Grand Forks.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Sioux vs Gophers - Sioux invade the John...
For whatever reason, the past 2 home series against DU were sold out and very rocking. In fact I'd wager that for reasons not explainable they were more raucus than recent UW and just as much as recent UND series. (before anyone goes ape I'm not comparing the DU series to the UND series, but for whatever reason the last few against DU were extremely loud)
If UND fans are focusing this much on attendance perhaps they're worried about this weekend?
While I'd love to say I expect a Gophers sweep I cannot. This series is too difficult, too even and too hard fought to expect the Gophers to sweep, even if on paper I might see it happening. That threads here, gpl, ss and elsewhere are this active makes me sad this series is essentially ending.
Tipsy is Dipsy perhaps? Fact is every fanbase has downtimes. We've seen it with UW already this year, we've seen with UND in the past and we've seen even with UM when times are tough. Way to prove the obvious big boy.
For whatever reason, the past 2 home series against DU were sold out and very rocking. In fact I'd wager that for reasons not explainable they were more raucus than recent UW and just as much as recent UND series. (before anyone goes ape I'm not comparing the DU series to the UND series, but for whatever reason the last few against DU were extremely loud)
If UND fans are focusing this much on attendance perhaps they're worried about this weekend?
While I'd love to say I expect a Gophers sweep I cannot. This series is too difficult, too even and too hard fought to expect the Gophers to sweep, even if on paper I might see it happening. That threads here, gpl, ss and elsewhere are this active makes me sad this series is essentially ending.
Tipsy is Dipsy perhaps? Fact is every fanbase has downtimes. We've seen it with UW already this year, we've seen with UND in the past and we've seen even with UM when times are tough. Way to prove the obvious big boy.
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JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Partially correct. The Gophers have the largest TV contract in college hockey (that I am aware of) because the demand is there for games. The demand is there because they are the largest and most followed school in arguably the biggest hockey state in the country.
I'm not trying to tell you that Gopher fans are better than all other fans. I certainly think, in general, we are better than some fan bases. However, IMO, we are one of the largest fan bases.
And if you read back through that other thread you referred to, you would see that I was arguing that the MIDWEST has more people who will likely watch college hockey on television. That was the point I was making. I only used the Gophers Asa example because that is the fan base I am most familiar with, and I stated as much. In fact, I believe I actually complimented the Sue at least twice in that thread.
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MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
How are we supposed to take your statement out of context if you add disclaimers like this?
Slap Shot
I got nothing
Re: Sioux vs Gophers - Sioux invade the John...
Goph fanbase is not the greatest fanbase of all time.. I think UND, UW, BC, BU, UM, CC, DU, MI all have solid fanbases (and more, i didnt intentionally leave any out).
I will say this, and I dont think it entirely bias. The Gophers have a pretty special program with the history and tradition as well as the impact it has made on the sport in Minnesota.
Goph fanbase is not the greatest fanbase of all time.. I think UND, UW, BC, BU, UM, CC, DU, MI all have solid fanbases (and more, i didnt intentionally leave any out).
I will say this, and I dont think it entirely bias. The Gophers have a pretty special program with the history and tradition as well as the impact it has made on the sport in Minnesota.
state of hockey
He fixes the cable?
Re: Sioux vs Gophers - Sioux invade the John...
The best fans I have personally witnessed are Cornell and Northeastern. Great student sections.
The best fans I have personally witnessed are Cornell and Northeastern. Great student sections.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
I think Brock Hall had the best fan base ever.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
Re: Sioux vs Gophers - Sioux invade the John...
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Driftryder
Gopher Hockey
Re: Sioux vs Gophers - Sioux invade the John...
I think both fan bases would be pretty bummed if this series ended in 2 years, I do hope they can work out a scheduling deal and keep playing.
How else are we going to get 357 posts on a Tuesday of a series thread.
I think both fan bases would be pretty bummed if this series ended in 2 years, I do hope they can work out a scheduling deal and keep playing.
How else are we going to get 357 posts on a Tuesday of a series thread.
JDUBBS1280
MN Hockey Enthusiast
I think both fan bases would be pretty bummed if this series ended in 2 years, I do hope they can work out a scheduling deal and keep playing.
How else are we going to get 357 posts on a Tuesday of a series thread.
Agreed. Best rivalry in college hockey IMO.
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I expect them to continue playing each other due to the strong interest of fans (read: $$$).
Even if they don't play a series every season, they are certainly good to fill the X for the random midseason game / non-conference tournament. No matter what other combination of teams you pit against each other there, I think the fans of each of these schools can agree on this: there's nothing quite like a MN-UND matchup there. Granted, it wouldn't be the same as a conference tournament obviously as nothing but bragging rights would be on the line (and the oft-noted PWR impact), but I would fully expect any game between these two to sell out there. With the strong presence of UND alumni down here, it's really a no-brainer to continue the rivalry.
I expect them to continue playing each other due to the strong interest of fans (read: $$$).
Even if they don't play a series every season, they are certainly good to fill the X for the random midseason game / non-conference tournament. No matter what other combination of teams you pit against each other there, I think the fans of each of these schools can agree on this: there's nothing quite like a MN-UND matchup there. Granted, it wouldn't be the same as a conference tournament obviously as nothing but bragging rights would be on the line (and the oft-noted PWR impact), but I would fully expect any game between these two to sell out there. With the strong presence of UND alumni down here, it's really a no-brainer to continue the rivalry.
