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Shooting at Sikh temple outside of Milwaukee.

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joecct said:
Why is the killer ID'd as the " alleged shooter" by the news media?? He was killed with a gun in his hand.
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In some cases, I understand the idea of being ambiguous until things are "official". Who knows when you'd run into some odd scenario where the killer is smart enough to try to get the gun in the hand of one of his victims before he makes his mistake. All the same, it is quite absurd to think that (1) the only guy there that's clearly not a cop or a Sikh, (2) the one who was engaging with officers before BEING SHOT BY ONE, or (3) a guy that would've been easily identified by any of the (shockingly) calm witnesses would still be considered "alleged".

But if we must be ambiguous for formality's sake, I think "presumed" would be a better word choice than "alleged".

Edit to add: Seriously, **** that guy.
 
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Its just a cover-your-*** word. The news people don't want to say he's the shooter until the cops come out and say it, or (not in this case) it is determined by trial.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Its just a cover-your-*** word. The news people don't want to say he's the shooter until the cops come out and say it, or (not in this case) it is determined by trial.
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That isn't really CYA, though, it's factual reporting. Since "alleged" carries different connotations than "presumed," if I were writing that story I'd use "presumed." Even if a cop says he was the shooter he's still "presumed." (For that matter even if the shooter says he was the shooter, you still have to use something like "admitted." You have to have a legal finding before you drop the conditional.)

A news source can't use "the shooter" until the official investigation formally says, "that guy was the shooter." That's the difference between news and gossip.
 
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Well the news conference says he was a "white supremacist". Polite way for saying "nutjob"?

Just curious, but are there any other supremacists out there other than white? I've never heard of another skin color.
 
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joecct said:
Well the news conference says he was a "white supremacist". Polite way for saying "nutjob"?

Just curious, but are there any other supremacists out there other than white? I've never heard of another skin color.
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Well, the Black Panthers are still out there somewhere.
 
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joecct said:
Well the news conference says he was a "white supremacist". Polite way for saying "nutjob"?

Just curious, but are there any other supremacists out there other than white? I've never heard of another skin color.
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Well, since we're engaging in semantic discussions, I'd say that "white supremacist" is a compound noun inidicating that the person believes in racial supremacy of the white race, not that he is a racial supremacist who happens to be white. At least in theory there could be a non-white white supremacist. And no, it's not just a polite term for "nutjob". There are many nutjobs who are not white supremacists.

In all likelihood the shooter is also a moron who thought that anyone wearing a turban is Mulsim.
 
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CLS said:
Well, since we're engaging in semantic discussions, I'd say that "white supremacist" is a compound noun inidicating that the person believes in racial supremacy of the white race, not that he is a racial supremacist who happens to be white. At least in theory there could be a non-white white supremacist. And no, it's not just a polite term for "nutjob". There are many nutjobs who are not white supremacists.

In all likelihood the shooter is also a moron who thought that anyone wearing a turban is Mulsim.
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Its not just a theory. It is reality, a reality that Clayton Bixby knows all too well.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You mean someone that was actually inside of the temple at the time of the shooting?
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No. I mean musicians4freedom. I know that's my go-to source for breaking news, not those CNN, AP, and Fox sites!
 
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When the details began to emerge, I thought this guy reminds me of Buford Furrow. Remember? He's the Aryan Nation a*shole who shot up a Jewish day care center in LA in '99. He's serving life without parole, which is a d*mn shame.
 
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Old Pio said:
When the details began to emerge, I thought this guy reminds me of Buford Furrow. Remember? He's the Aryan Nation a*shole who shot up a Jewish day care center in LA in '99. He's serving life without parole, which is a d*mn shame.
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Ummmmm, a **** shame that he's in prison instead of on the street, a **** shame that he's in prison instead of deceased, a **** shame that he's serving life, or a **** shame that he's not eligible for parole? Your posts usually are prone to ambiguity.
 
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CLS said:
Ummmmm, a **** shame that he's in prison instead of on the street, a **** shame that he's in prison instead of deceased, a **** shame that he's serving life, or a **** shame that he's not eligible for parole? Your posts usually are prone to ambiguity.
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It's pretty obvious what he means.
 
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