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Shannon Miller out at UMD?

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Eeyore said:
This is true only if you assume that it's the only place they are cutting expenses.
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I did not see further comment on cost cutting and financial decisions which would have been a perfect spot to bring it up if her salary was an issue.
 
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Eeyore said:
So I take it that, if Wisconsin fires Mike Eaves, you'll be vocal about Shannon Miller being considered for the job?
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If she was the best applicant in the AD's eyes (or another female), I'd say hire her. I would not have an issue with it. I want wins for UW, that's the bottom line. How UW get's to that point, I don't care. I think UMD, or any school, should have that same attitude.
 
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CrankIt said:
You say that like the players aren't allowed to have friends outside of hockey.
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That's a pretty inventive interpretation of what I posted.

CrankIt said:
Unfortunately, the demographic make-up of Duluth is about 90% Caucasian so regardless of their living situation they aren't exposed to much diversity anyway.
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It was cultural diversity. A diversity of nationality. Not racial diversity...per those oft read claims I mentioned.
 
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Timothy A said:
If she was the best applicant in the AD's eyes (or another female), I'd say hire her. I would not have an issue with it. I want wins for UW, that's the bottom line. How UW get's to that point, I don't care. I think UMD, or any school, should have that same attitude.
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That's obviously unlikely but man, that would be a pretty cool thing to happen.
 
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giwan said:
I did not see further comment on cost cutting and financial decisions which would have been a perfect spot to bring it up if her salary was an issue.
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So you assume that because it isn't mentioned in an article about Shannon Miller being out as coach that it must not be happening. You might want to actually research that.
 
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Timothy A said:
If she was the best applicant in the AD's eyes (or another female), I'd say hire her. I would not have an issue with it. I want wins for UW, that's the bottom line. How UW get's to that point, I don't care. I think UMD, or any school, should have that same attitude.
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And what do you think the chances are that she'd actually be taken seriously as an applicant? I'll give you a hint: the odds are the same as the number of women who coach men's hockey teams.
 
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Eeyore said:
So you assume that because it isn't mentioned in an article about Shannon Miller being out as coach that it must not be happening. You might want to actually research that.
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No I never assume, I said it would have been a PERFECT place for the AD to comment. Since he did not that makes it just about Miller
 
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giwan said:
No I never assume, I said it would have been a PERFECT place for the AD to comment. Since he did not that makes it just about Miller
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No, your original comment was clearly predicated on there not having been an additional $6 million in cuts at UMD aside from Shannon Miller's contract.
 
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Royale with Cheese said:
I have seen this stated as fact over and over, maybe I missed something but I think it more a failure to land the Minnesota kids they recruited than failing to recruit them. In womens hockey it seems that except for the family, friends, and coaches of the player themselves no one really knows what schools are in contact or part of a players short list. I can tell you that UMD was pretty active with some of the top players a few years ago but didn't land them. It may have been that they didn't like the idea of a dry team, or living off campus, or the way Miller liked to really segregate the players from the rest of the student body. Maybe it was the weather, I doubt there is a campus that has fewer days in shorts and flip flops in the country (the Beavers at least have a tunnel system). Certainly the facilities are top notch with the way they have a near exact mirror of the mens facilities (thanks to Miller's power at the time that Amsoil was built). What ever the case is I think it is more a case of failing to land many of the top recruits from Minnesota and choosing to go else where rather than not recruiting in Minnesota. She did chose to no go after the same pool of players as St. Cloud, BSU, and MSU did. Those teams have historically struggled with their strategy, like her or loath her when they won their 5th they had pretty much won half of them in any sport of any size that is impressive.
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you can think whatever you want, but it is obvious from your post you don't know what you are talking about, Duluth is balmy in winter compared to Bemidji or Grand Forks, and it is as warm if not warmer than Minneapolis as well.

there were 14 posts in the UMD thread in the past 4 months, she gets canned, and suddenly there is 5 pages in 2 days
pretty much explains the situation
 
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CrankIt said:
I have been paying attention and yes, it has gotten better as of late. But when the UMD Bulldogs Twitter account only gives the play by play of football and men's hockey, even though both teams have their own accounts in which they can do that from, it is clear they still only want to put their energy into those two sports. I recall that during this season's playoff run by the volleyball team, men's hockey was also playing at the same time. UMD did not post any updates about volleyball until after the second set because they were too consumed with the play by play of men's hockey. If you're going to have a general UMD Athletics Twitter handle, it should be representative of all sports and not just two.
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Harvard's Twitter account will even give fencing updates when the men's teams are playing. In fact our radio station streams broadcasts of women's volleyball while men's hockey or basketball is broadcast live over the air. All teams get coverage at some point either via Twitter or through the school's athletic web site.
 
pokechecker said:
you can think whatever you want, but it is obvious from your post you don't know what you are talking about, Duluth is balmy in winter compared to Bemidji or Grand Forks, and it is as warm if not warmer than Minneapolis as well.
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It is clearly you that doesn't know what you're talking about. Have you ever spent an entire winter in Duluth? It has never been warmer in Duluth than in Minneapolis. Last winter, Duluth had over 100 days straight of below freezing weather and nearly 40 straight of below zero weather.
 
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CrankIt said:
It is clearly you that doesn't know what you're talking about. Have you ever spent an entire winter in Duluth? It has never been warmer in Duluth than in Minneapolis. Last winter, Duluth had over 100 days straight of below freezing weather and nearly 40 straight of below zero weather.
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As a former resident of Duluth I would agree with this. Before moving "south" to the Twin Cities, my parents used talk about the winter when the temp never got above zero the whole month of January. Shannon Miller's recruits from Siberia would be the only ones to appreciate Duluth's "milder" winter weather.
 
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TonyTheTiger20 said:
Article on ESPNW

http://espn.go.com/espnw/news-comme...want-wildly-successful-hockey-coach-wait-what
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After reading this article, it is clear to me that this isn't just about money. Berlo wants Miller gone. Out. Finished. No questions asked. He's using the timeline as an excuse. If he doesn't know what his budgetary issues are, then he should be shown the door.

When UMD visited Bright-Landry for a two game series against Harvard back in the '09-'10 season, it was some of the best hockey, men or women, that we've seen at Harvard. That scoreless tie left everyone at the rink wanting the game to continue regardless of who won. Miller will have no lack of suitors for her next position. She may not get $200k+ but she'll be well taken care of regardless.
 
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Skate79 said:
After reading this article, it is clear to me that this isn't just about money. Berlo wants Miller gone. Out. Finished. No questions asked. He's using the timeline as an excuse. If he doesn't know what his budgetary issues are, then he should be shown the door.
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I don't know if you've watched the video that Blackbeard linked in the UMD thread, but based on Miller's answer at the 6:40 mark, it almost sounds like it is more the UMD chancellor than the A.D. that is making this decision, in Miller's opinion.
Blackbeard said:
http://www.northlandsnewscenter.com...ller-Responds-to-Contract-News-286034531.html
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ARM said:
I don't know if you've watched the video that Blackbeard linked in the UMD thread, but based on Miller's answer at the 6:40 mark, it almost sounds like it is more the UMD chancellor than the A.D. that is making this decision, in Miller's opinion.
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I didn't see the video until just now. Thanks for the re-post. She mentions a lack of respect from the administration over the past few seasons that got worse every year. I wonder exactly what she was referring to? Other funding cuts for recruiting? Reduced ice time for practice? I thought it was interesting that she referenced Brad Frost when asked about comparable salaries and not the UMD men's coach.
 
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I think the following programs should considering hiring Miller for next season... Providence, MN State, RPI, UVM, Union, Robert Morris, Syracuse, St. Lawrence.
 
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