Re: SCSU Huskies 2010 Off-Season Thread
wait really???
well at least we still have elvis
wait really???
well at least we still have elvis
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SCSU Huskies 2010 Off-Season Thread
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Re: SCSU Huskies 2010 Off-Season Thread
Mankato dropped 4 sports, we'll likely have to do something similar.
Mankato dropped 4 sports, we'll likely have to do something similar.
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http://www.sctimes.com/article/20100818/NEWS01/108170031/SCSU-may-give-football-the-boot
Just as I warned a few weeks ago, SCSU is proposing major cuts to Athletics including football.
http://www.sctimes.com/article/20100818/NEWS01/108170031/SCSU-may-give-football-the-boot
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Yeah, saw that already over on D2F.
Almost feels like a scare tactice fundraising campaign to me. You put everybody on the chopping block, especially now before the season starts, you get a lot of people paying attention and sending in checks to SCSU. A $500,000 shortfall should be easily made up with everybody pitching in a little.
Yeah, saw that already over on D2F.
Almost feels like a scare tactice fundraising campaign to me. You put everybody on the chopping block, especially now before the season starts, you get a lot of people paying attention and sending in checks to SCSU. A $500,000 shortfall should be easily made up with everybody pitching in a little.
beaverhockeyfan
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Re: SCSU Huskies 2010 Off-Season Thread
Bemidji State threatened to drop hockey a couple of years ago if the program didn't come up with $2.5 million in fundraising. The goal was met and the program is still around.
They also threatened to drop track and field if a certain fundraising goal wasn't met. It was and the program is around.
So yes, I agree with you. It seems like a fundraising ploy to me.......
Bemidji State threatened to drop hockey a couple of years ago if the program didn't come up with $2.5 million in fundraising. The goal was met and the program is still around.
They also threatened to drop track and field if a certain fundraising goal wasn't met. It was and the program is around.
So yes, I agree with you. It seems like a fundraising ploy to me.......
Pump It Up
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Re: SCSU Huskies 2010 Off-Season Thread
Perhaps, but the SCSU athletic department is insanely incompetent. It starts at the top, Dr. Kurtz. One of the St. Cloud Times articles on the story yesterday interviewed the president of the Gridiron Club (football boosters). He said that they received no requests to help or for donations prior to this news breaking.
Maybe we can turn Husky Stadium into a sweet outdoor rink.
Perhaps, but the SCSU athletic department is insanely incompetent. It starts at the top, Dr. Kurtz. One of the St. Cloud Times articles on the story yesterday interviewed the president of the Gridiron Club (football boosters). He said that they received no requests to help or for donations prior to this news breaking.
Maybe we can turn Husky Stadium into a sweet outdoor rink.
Skeeterman
Bob is making me nervous
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It's almost like the SCSU athletic department is totally clueless. Does anyone remember them promoting any of the other sports? Do they place any value on fan communications? Do they just think they should put the sport on and people will show up and support it? Are they still in the "silent" period of their fundraising for the Hockey Center? Is there anything more stupid than "silent" fundraising? Have they ever thought of using marketing students to help market their sports? Are they shut off from the real world in their ivory tower of academia that they have lost all common sense?
It's almost like an enema wrapped in carborundum.
It's almost like the SCSU athletic department is totally clueless. Does anyone remember them promoting any of the other sports? Do they place any value on fan communications? Do they just think they should put the sport on and people will show up and support it? Are they still in the "silent" period of their fundraising for the Hockey Center? Is there anything more stupid than "silent" fundraising? Have they ever thought of using marketing students to help market their sports? Are they shut off from the real world in their ivory tower of academia that they have lost all common sense?
It's almost like an enema wrapped in carborundum.
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
Re: SCSU Huskies 2010 Off-Season Thread
The Football program is usless. I hope they get rid of it.
The Football program is usless. I hope they get rid of it.
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Unlike Tommy, I would be disappointed if they got rid of football, it's my favorite sport, I grew up watching them, was in Huskies Pups for 4 years, attended many games and had high school teammates play for them. That being said, I would understand the move, and certainly an argument could be made that keeping football isn't worth losing 8 other sports and I live near Duluth, so I haven't attended a SCSU game in a few years. I would also be a little disappointed if they ended swimming and diving since my dad swam for SCSU while he was in school.
Unlike Tommy, I would be disappointed if they got rid of football, it's my favorite sport, I grew up watching them, was in Huskies Pups for 4 years, attended many games and had high school teammates play for them. That being said, I would understand the move, and certainly an argument could be made that keeping football isn't worth losing 8 other sports and I live near Duluth, so I haven't attended a SCSU game in a few years. I would also be a little disappointed if they ended swimming and diving since my dad swam for SCSU while he was in school.
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Let's see, an institution that has an enrollment of 16,000, has two DI atheletic programs, just built a new football stadium, and is planning on expanding and remodleling the NHC, is contemplating dropping the one program that is the main drawing card of any institution (I know some will disagree with that satement, but football in the fall on a Saturday afternoon is a tradition?!) Tell me this isn't a government run program! Heads should be rolling off shoulders so fast, it would make one's head spin (no pun intended). We start with Kurtz, the idiot has to go. He didn't know this was happening? Give me a break! The lack of vision on this man's part is dispicable! When other schools like the No. Dak's and So. Dak's decided to go DI Kurtz should have been right behind them in making SCSU DI in all sports. IMHO this pres. should clean house in the athletic dept. administration and get some people who have vision and can do attitude to elavate all sports to DI level. Bet most if not all alumni would support that.
Let's see, an institution that has an enrollment of 16,000, has two DI atheletic programs, just built a new football stadium, and is planning on expanding and remodleling the NHC, is contemplating dropping the one program that is the main drawing card of any institution (I know some will disagree with that satement, but football in the fall on a Saturday afternoon is a tradition?!) Tell me this isn't a government run program! Heads should be rolling off shoulders so fast, it would make one's head spin (no pun intended). We start with Kurtz, the idiot has to go. He didn't know this was happening? Give me a break! The lack of vision on this man's part is dispicable! When other schools like the No. Dak's and So. Dak's decided to go DI Kurtz should have been right behind them in making SCSU DI in all sports. IMHO this pres. should clean house in the athletic dept. administration and get some people who have vision and can do attitude to elavate all sports to DI level. Bet most if not all alumni would support that.
Bronzebacks
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Tommyboy has the right to his opinion regarding football. I am not a huge football fan either. But I am a Husky. And it's bigger than liking the football team or not. Division II sports in college provides a great place for talented kids to compete and further develop in the sport they love. They are not freakishly gifted like todays DI athletes and they are good athletes and great students. I discovered Husky Hockey from being a student athlete. I fell in love with the game and this team. I give back to my former team and hockey team as well. When students get more involved through athletics they feel more of sense of ownership and pride in their school. Loosing any program is a dangerous venture.
The blame should be placed on the AD and his 6 assistants for the blatant failure to promote and support men's football and other sports on campus. Time to clean house in the AD office.
Tommyboy has the right to his opinion regarding football. I am not a huge football fan either. But I am a Husky. And it's bigger than liking the football team or not. Division II sports in college provides a great place for talented kids to compete and further develop in the sport they love. They are not freakishly gifted like todays DI athletes and they are good athletes and great students. I discovered Husky Hockey from being a student athlete. I fell in love with the game and this team. I give back to my former team and hockey team as well. When students get more involved through athletics they feel more of sense of ownership and pride in their school. Loosing any program is a dangerous venture.
The blame should be placed on the AD and his 6 assistants for the blatant failure to promote and support men's football and other sports on campus. Time to clean house in the AD office.
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I did not mean to say that Tommy is wrong, I even understand his point, and a lot of other people on this site also don't care about the football and that's fine. I just wanted it known that there are people that care out there. I have also noticed at both SCSU and UMD that there isn't much overlap between the football and hockey crowds.
I did not mean to say that Tommy is wrong, I even understand his point, and a lot of other people on this site also don't care about the football and that's fine. I just wanted it known that there are people that care out there. I have also noticed at both SCSU and UMD that there isn't much overlap between the football and hockey crowds.
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http://www.sctimes.com/article/20100818/SPORTS/108180018/1002/SCSU-players--fans-stunned
But getting more more fundraising and community involvement is always a good idea, especially when it comes to football, which probably is the single most important sport when it comes to getting students to buy into the schools brand. Start of the new school year, and its Saturday and Joe Freshman is looking for something to do. Likely, it involves football. Now, he could just sit in his dorm room and what some BCS schools go at it, which is fine if he wants to. But if he has a few friends that are going to the game on campus, which I'm assuming is free or at the least very cheap for students to go to. He goes there, makes more friends there at the game, and maybe even trades in that Minnesota Goofers hat he wears for one with the SCSU logo on it. Then, Hockey season rolls around some of his friends wanna go to the hockey games. You bet he's going to be there, and not just for the Minnesota and Wisconsin game either. And a good chance he'll be sporting SCSU colors as well. I'm going to assume nothing more would chap the collective bungholes around here than some doushbag freshman that goes to the hockey games wearing Goofer Garb, sitting in the student section, and actively chearing for the Goofers.
Hardly.....Believe me now?
http://www.sctimes.com/article/20100818/SPORTS/108180018/1002/SCSU-players--fans-stunned
Lets see.... 500,000 of an athletic deficit divided by 25,620, my math makes Football operation losses for SCSU to be just a shade over 5% of its total of red ink. 25,000 should be easily raised by any decent university and booster club. 50 guys chipping in 500 bucks a piece. Easily done to get the program back into the black. Its been done before. Hell, Michigan Tech did actually cut their football program for about a week back in late 2003/early 2004, can't remember if it was December or January. Their alumni got together, pooled their recourses, and brought the program back with the understanding that the Football alumni would pay for the football team. And with all of that termoil and guys transfering out, the Huskies still went on and had a pretty dang good year that year. Finished the year 9-2 I believe, played at Michigan Stadium that was a big fundraiser for them, and hosted North Dakota that year in the second round of the playoffs.
Well, I wouldn't go as far as saying as SCSU should have gone D1, as that you're looking at easily increasing your athletic budget by about 10 million a year easily. Frankly, the Dakota's could get away with it given that they're the state's flagship schools, and thus are going to get a little more support statewide than what SCSU as it would still be a distant second fiddle to that school in the Twin Cities.
But getting more more fundraising and community involvement is always a good idea, especially when it comes to football, which probably is the single most important sport when it comes to getting students to buy into the schools brand. Start of the new school year, and its Saturday and Joe Freshman is looking for something to do. Likely, it involves football. Now, he could just sit in his dorm room and what some BCS schools go at it, which is fine if he wants to. But if he has a few friends that are going to the game on campus, which I'm assuming is free or at the least very cheap for students to go to. He goes there, makes more friends there at the game, and maybe even trades in that Minnesota Goofers hat he wears for one with the SCSU logo on it. Then, Hockey season rolls around some of his friends wanna go to the hockey games. You bet he's going to be there, and not just for the Minnesota and Wisconsin game either. And a good chance he'll be sporting SCSU colors as well. I'm going to assume nothing more would chap the collective bungholes around here than some doushbag freshman that goes to the hockey games wearing Goofer Garb, sitting in the student section, and actively chearing for the Goofers.
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
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Football cost the school far more than just it's losses becasue of title 9. If you get rid of Football, you can also get rid of other worthless sports. If for some reason people really do care and give a ton of dough to save the program I will be more than happy for them. I just highly doubt that will happen.
Football cost the school far more than just it's losses becasue of title 9. If you get rid of Football, you can also get rid of other worthless sports. If for some reason people really do care and give a ton of dough to save the program I will be more than happy for them. I just highly doubt that will happen.
scsutommyboy
Frozen four or Bust!!
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I would love to see that. People might actually care about football team then....To be honest, I am not sure that could ever happen unless someone gave a boat loadof dough to the football team to help pay for the 65 scholarships needed to compete at that level.
I would love to see that. People might actually care about football team then....To be honest, I am not sure that could ever happen unless someone gave a boat loadof dough to the football team to help pay for the 65 scholarships needed to compete at that level.
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Exactly. I grew up in Brookings, SD and attended a year of college at South Dakota State before transferring to SCSU. My parents are still there and huge Jackrabbit fans. SCSU should have followed the other programs who went D-1. South Dakota State - a good 2-3 years before committing to D-1, did study after study to assess the feasability, while at the same time started building what is now an incredible booster club. In 2008 they averaged nearly 10,000 fans per game in a city of about 16,000 - not counting the students. A move to D-1 attracts better athletes, faster athletes, athletes who get more exposure, and MORE FANS at the games. The NSIC doesn't even come close to what the NCC was, much less D-1.
SCSU, by there own lack of vision and competence, got left behind. I attended a total of two football games when I attended SCSU and didn't even know where Selke Field was located until my second year. Although I am not a huge college football follower, I'm embarassed for SCSU that they are now in this position. Morris Kurtz needs to be fired.
Exactly. I grew up in Brookings, SD and attended a year of college at South Dakota State before transferring to SCSU. My parents are still there and huge Jackrabbit fans. SCSU should have followed the other programs who went D-1. South Dakota State - a good 2-3 years before committing to D-1, did study after study to assess the feasability, while at the same time started building what is now an incredible booster club. In 2008 they averaged nearly 10,000 fans per game in a city of about 16,000 - not counting the students. A move to D-1 attracts better athletes, faster athletes, athletes who get more exposure, and MORE FANS at the games. The NSIC doesn't even come close to what the NCC was, much less D-1.
SCSU, by there own lack of vision and competence, got left behind. I attended a total of two football games when I attended SCSU and didn't even know where Selke Field was located until my second year. Although I am not a huge college football follower, I'm embarassed for SCSU that they are now in this position. Morris Kurtz needs to be fired.
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Right now, in the NSIC, you've got a decent league travel wise, with schools mostly centered around Minnesota, with a few outliers in Iowa, and the Dakota's. You jump up to D1, and whatever league that invites you in, be it the Great West or the Missouri Valley, you've got some cross country roadies to send your teams on, either California or Ohio.
The only thing that might work in your favor about moving up would be all of the reshuffling going on with the Big Boys out west positioning for BCS status. If the WAC sticks together enough to talk a few Big Sky schools into joining them, then maybe there might be a good spot for SCSU to join into a league that ends up holding all of the Dakota schools in it. Time will tell on that.
Don't be so hung up on the D1 Label guys. All that really does is get your scores on the ESPN ticker at an additional cost of at least 10 million a year for that privage. And more often than not, that score will probably involve getting beat on by some big BCS school in a Money Game. The Dakota's can get away with moving up because they are their states flagship schools. If you want to compare yourself to a former NCC rival, look at Northern Colorado.
Right now, in the NSIC, you've got a decent league travel wise, with schools mostly centered around Minnesota, with a few outliers in Iowa, and the Dakota's. You jump up to D1, and whatever league that invites you in, be it the Great West or the Missouri Valley, you've got some cross country roadies to send your teams on, either California or Ohio.
The only thing that might work in your favor about moving up would be all of the reshuffling going on with the Big Boys out west positioning for BCS status. If the WAC sticks together enough to talk a few Big Sky schools into joining them, then maybe there might be a good spot for SCSU to join into a league that ends up holding all of the Dakota schools in it. Time will tell on that.