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SCSU 2009-2010 Season Thread

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As I said though, right now you can't say Rioux would be better, he hasn't played and you sure aren't out watching practice.
Saturday's game basically everybody sucked, so using that against Gaudet is not fair IMO.
As I said, he is what he is, it's what he was going to be had he played more last year and it is what he is now.
Also, no one is arguing Dunn has played better, but it isn't as though Motzko has been riding Lee and benching Dunn, Dunn was hurt the past two weeks.
Yes he potentially could have gone on Saturday, but why risk it if he's not 100%, especially with a leg/knee injury.
Fact also remains, Dunn has been able to do this for 6 games so far this year and two of them he was not stellar, his two losses.
My guess is Motzko hasn't seen enough to hand him the job yet and I think this team needs to step up as a group and make it not matter who's in goal.
They are both capable goalies, and I don't think goalie play has been the crux of our losses.

Oh and Euro, I'm not just following points and I did see Saturday's game.
But considering one of our problems right now is consistent scoring, yeah it makes a whole lot of sense to sit a guy with 7 goals just this year for one of two guys with a combined 4 goals for their career.
Busting your butt doesn't mean squat if you don't produce and like it or not, however he's getting them, Mosey is producing.
Would I like it if Mosey worked harder or least looked like he was working harder, of course I would and for the most part he has done so this year, but production does matter and when Mosey has more goals in his career than those two have points (and the number of games is close 82 to 74) I'll take Mosey, even if he is considered a bit lazy by the likes of you.

I am not going to fight with people over Rioux because I don't think he is that good, but keep this in mind. Motzko claimed Gaudet didn't look good enough in practice to play last year and I think we will all agree he should have played more last year. It is silly not to give Rioux a chance. The bottom two guys this year(Hepp & Gaudet) are not great and why not give someone else a game or two to see what they can do? Practice is not a good indicator of what a player will do in a game.
 
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You're probably right. I shouldn't be so concerned about the source of our mediocrity. There are 2 or 3 teams below us in the standings that would love to have that kind of mediocrity year in and year out. Of course, they would also love to have the kind of talent that Motzko brings in every year and be able to see them show so little development from their freshmen season on, that they can be counted on to cheerfully lead the parent section in cheers night after average night. But then again, when you are 9th and 10th in the standings, 6th and 7th (or 8th and 9th when UNO and BSU roll in next year)probably looks like reaching the "golden arena" so why wouldn't they envy us?

The guys he has brought in are more skilled? Who knows? Probably, but it's not always the guys with "more skill" that make your TEAM a complete TEAM...from player 1 to player 25.

How much do you really think they are going to learn from watching and not playing? This is one of the stupidest, non-athlete statements I have ever heard. I am usually not one to criticise a comment from someone who hasn't played, because I don't believe that participation always makes one a better observer, but in this case, you are flat out, dead wrong. If you think that being on the ice is the ONLY thing that is going to benefit these guys.... we don't have any more to discuss.

This team has been a .500 club over the last year and half because they don't do the little things. Iam sorry but it's just not the mosey's of the team tha tneed to do more. The so called leaders like Lasch, Roe and Marvin could do a lot more as well. Until this team figures that out they are going to be nothing but a middle of the row team.
 
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Oh and Euro, I'm not just following points and I did see Saturday's game.
But considering one of our problems right now is consistent scoring, yeah it makes a whole lot of sense to sit a guy with 7 goals just this year for one of two guys with a combined 4 goals for their career.
Busting your butt doesn't mean squat if you don't produce and like it or not, however he's getting them, Mosey is producing.
Would I like it if Mosey worked harder or least looked like he was working harder, of course I would and for the most part he has done so this year, but production does matter and when Mosey has more goals in his career than those two have points (and the number of games is close 82 to 74) I'll take Mosey, even if he is considered a bit lazy by the likes of you.

First off, again, all you focus on is goals, what a surprise. Secondly, Mitch Ryan has scored 2 goals in 14 games as a Husky, or one in every 7 games. The games he played he was playing 3rd or 4th line. Tony Mosey's scored 16 goals in 82 games (and he's missed more good opportunities than he's made), or one out of every 5 games. And that's after spending a ton of time on the PP this year, and being paired with much better linemates, especially this year. Do you remember the goal he scored to tie the game at 2 against the Gophers at the X his freshman year? Ryan Lasch did EVERYTHING to score that goal but be the last one to tap it in. I'd say their goal scoring ability isn't that vastly different... and maybe I'm wrong, but we've only seen Mitch Ryan 14 times, so I would be happier if we got a look at him. If it turns out he Nate Deys his shots, then fine, sit him again, but can it hurt to through him a bone every couple weekends? Especially because you say that their biggest problem right now is goal scoring. Its not. Its hustling. I've seen Mitch Ryan hustle more in 14 games than I've seen Tony Mosey in 80.

You do realize that Christian is also one of our best PK forwards right, that he does more than score, but he should be sat because he isn't scoring more 5 on 5?

I am just going to preemptively say (because you have implied incorrectly that I called for Gaudet last year) that I have never said anything about giving Jordy Christian less time. Want that stated now, in case you try to bring that up down the road.

But, to cut to the point, there really is no need not to insert these guys into the lineup. There isn't enough seperation between them and others not to do so and it may help create a happier environment for all.

If you wanna stay as a .500 team, split every weekend, end up a 5 or 6 seed, maybe get to the X and be a Thursday night casualty, and miss the NCAAs, then yes, no need to change things up. If you expect more, like tb, motox and I do, then what's it hurt to try some new things up, especially with Brown and MTU at home next?

This team has been a .500 club over the last year and half because they don't do the little things. Iam sorry but it's just not the mosey's of the team tha tneed to do more. The so called leaders like Lasch, Roe and Marvin could do a lot more as well. Until this team figures that out they are going to be nothing but a middle of the row team.

Agree with all of that but Marvin. Marvin's had a couple bad games this year, for sure, but his offensive production is down I believe because he's snakebitten. Every time he shoots, he's thinking about how he hasn't scored a lot, at least IMO. He just seems to be holding the stick tight, but that'll come around. The other aspects of the game for him, forechecking, passing, hits, make up for that while he's on a slump, and I think right now he's the best penalty killer we have.
 
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If you wanna stay as a .500 team, split every weekend, end up a 5 or 6 seed, maybe get to the X and be a Thursday night casualty, and miss the NCAAs, then yes, no need to change things up. If you expect more, like tb, motox and I do, then what's it hurt to try some new things up, especially with Brown and MTU at home next?

Didn't I say I'm all for mixing it up? I'd like to see every player with ice time. However, if you're suddenly looking for hockey panacea please explain how making these substitutions is sudenly going to make that much of a difference.

With the #1 SOS in college hockey I'm not all that disappointed with the exception of the Tech game at Houghton and Sat night vs CC. What team in this league has not had several disappointing games this season?

They have (on paper) a much easier schedule the second half. Lets see how they respond. Aren't they 4 points out of first? You're looking for results that may not be possible this season with some of the deficiencies on this team.
 
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I understand the point you are making. I doubt you believe we'll have any incremental improvement in the results by inserting Ammerman, Peckskamp, Ryan and Rioux into the lineup for whomever. But, we'll be a better TEAM if it was happening. I happen to agree with that. I'm a big fan of Mitch Ryan (physical, creates opportunity, can score) and like Peckskamp (high energy) etc etc. No doubt they are interchangeable with some that are playing so why not play them.

I also get the impression you're just not a fan of Motzko. The same comments are made by fans of nearly every team in college hockey. All teams have players that sit. That's why Lofquist left the Gophers as an example.

But, to cut to the point, there really is no need not to insert these guys into the lineup. There isn't enough seperation between them and others not to do so and it may help create a happier environment for all.

A voice of reason!!! And here I thought my disappointment with the status quo was transparent.
 
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Didn't I say I'm all for mixing it up? I'd like to see every player with ice time. However, if you're suddenly looking for hockey panacea please explain how making these substitutions is sudenly going to make that much of a difference.

With the #1 SOS in college hockey I'm not all that disappointed with the exception of the Tech game at Houghton and Sat night vs CC. What team in this league has not had several disappointing games this season?

They have (on paper) a much easier schedule the second half. Lets see how they respond. Aren't they 4 points out of first? You're looking for results that may not be possible this season with some of the deficiencies on this team.
Besides, Tom Kelly always mixed it up and his team won the World Series.
 
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Didn't I say I'm all for mixing it up? I'd like to see every player with ice time. However, if you're suddenly looking for hockey panacea please explain how making these substitutions is sudenly going to make that much of a difference.

With the #1 SOS in college hockey I'm not all that disappointed with the exception of the Tech game at Houghton and Sat night vs CC. What team in this league has not had several disappointing games this season?

They have (on paper) a much easier schedule the second half. Lets see how they respond. Aren't they 4 points out of first? You're looking for results that may not be possible this season with some of the deficiencies on this team.

They have one sweep all year. What makes you think the second half will be better? They still have to play the Gophers who they couldn't beat last year, at Wisconsin where they never seem to win, at CC(usual play well there), at quinnipiac and UND at home. This team has shown they have the talent to play with anybody, but are not consistant.
 
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They have one sweep all year. What makes you think the second half will be better? They still have to play the Gophers who they couldn't beat last year, at Wisconsin where they never seem to win, at CC(usual play well there), at quinnipiac and UND at home. This team has shown they have the talent to play with anybody, but are not consistant.

I guess it's the difference between a realistic and a pessimist. Yes, I do have an opinion the second half will show even better results. I'm a little confused. What does last years Gopher games have to do with this year? What makes Quinni so frightening? They just dropped games to Brown, Yale and tied Holy Cross. Are you worried about UAA, Brown and MTU at home? Why? Wisco will be very tough. CC on the road and UND at home should be splits. I would guess they'll go 12-6 over the last 18.

They'll by no means be an NCAA favorite come playoff time but I would not want to face them.
 
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They have one sweep all year. What makes you think the second half will be better? They still have to play the Gophers who they couldn't beat last year, at Wisconsin where they never seem to win, at CC(usual play well there), at quinnipiac and UND at home. This team has shown they have the talent to play with anybody, but are not consistant.

They're the model of consistency, or inconsistency, depending on how you look at it. In the WCHA alone, they've taken 3 from Duluth, taken one from CC, so those two even out, then sweeping UAA and splitting with everybody else.

I guess it's the difference between a realistic and a pessimist. Yes, I do have an opinion the second half will show even better results. I'm a little confused. What does last years Gopher games have to do with this year? What makes Quinni so frightening? They just dropped games to Brown, Yale and tied Holy Cross. Are you worried about UAA, Brown and MTU at home? Why? Wisco will be very tough. CC on the road and UND at home should be splits. I would guess they'll go 12-6 over the last 18.

They'll by no means be an NCAA favorite come playoff time but I would not want to face them.

Reason that Gopher thing has anything to do with this year; we lost to them in all 6 games last year, and most of that squad is back, as is most of ours from last year. Not saying that it means anything, but, I'm not exactly thrilled at our chances of winning that series, despite how bad they've been.

Also, I'm glad you already know what happens in the game... let me know specifically which ones we win so I can make some money. With our efforts, I'm afraid we could lose to MTU for the first time at home in a long time, and UAA for the first time in our building. And unless something changes greatly, I wouldn't mind AT ALL drawing SCSU in the first round of the NCAAs.
 
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always be a huge husky fan and want them to play hard everynight but the last 2 or 3 years we just cant get any consistency in winning we seem to stay at .500 or just below..they also have the 2nd toughest scedule as of right now in the country which will help if they win in the second half..last 2 years i have kept waiting for them to make a run win 6,7,8 games in a row but it hasnt happened.. grape vine rumors ive heard from students that talk to players and friend have roe leaving after this year anyways ..guessing maybe he isnt getting along with staff or other players..so to me that is why he is not producing this year like we would like to see him produce he might have already checked out and thinking of the money...just my opinon..
 
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last 2 years i have kept waiting for them to make a run win 6,7,8 games in a row but it hasnt happened..

Winning 6, 7, 8 games in a row doesn't happen that often in the WCHA. I'd be happy with running off 5 or 6 games without a loss, or even like a 7-2-1 over ten kinda run.
 
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Reason that Gopher thing has anything to do with this year; we lost to them in all 6 games last year, and most of that squad is back, as is most of ours from last year. Not saying that it means anything, but, I'm not exactly thrilled at our chances of winning that series, despite how bad they've been.

Also, I'm glad you already know what happens in the game... let me know specifically which ones we win so I can make some money. With our efforts, I'm afraid we could lose to MTU for the first time at home in a long time, and UAA for the first time in our building. And unless something changes greatly, I wouldn't mind AT ALL drawing SCSU in the first round of the NCAAs.

Are you people fans of the program? This is downright depressing trying to engage in some realistic hockey talk. This team has had a decent first half.
I would suggest you join a NO Saints message board. Everything is rosey there. **** there is some pessimism here. I'm outta here while you people bash each other and cry on each others shoulders on how dismal things are.

And by the way, if Roe leaves like you suggest (I don't believe it) someone will take his place. The program goes on.

I'll be back in a few months to gloat if they "over achieve".
 
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Are you people fans of the program? This is downright depressing trying to engage in some realistic hockey talk. This team has had a decent first half.
I would suggest you join a NO Saints message board. Everything is rosey there. **** there is some pessimism here. I'm outta here while you people bash each other and cry on each others shoulders on how dismal things are.

And by the way, if Roe leaves like you suggest (I don't believe it) someone will take his place. The program goes on.

I'll be back in a few months to gloat if they "over achieve".

1. We ALL want the same thing, for this team to be successful, play well, and win a freakin NCAA game and then a National Title. Don't give us the "you're not good fans" bit.

2. For the most part I'm pleased with where the Huskies are after a brutal schedule to start the season. That said, they left points out there that could very easily come back to hurt them at the end of the year (UMD, CC, and Tech.) Elite teams find a way to get those points. Do I think the 2nd half is set up for them to be successful, absolutely. But as a number of people have pointed out this team has to give a consistent, high-level performance every night and we just haven't seen that happen the past few years. They have shown they can play with the top teams in the country and win. If they can figure out a way to pull it together and play at that level all the time they could be very dangerous. If they continue their inconsistent ways it could be another disappointing season.

3. It wasn't Euro that suggested Roe was leaving. He's a very good player, but if he leaves after this season, he leaves.
 
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Are you people fans of the program? This is downright depressing trying to engage in some realistic hockey talk. This team has had a decent first half.
I would suggest you join a NO Saints message board. Everything is rosey there. **** there is some pessimism here. I'm outta here while you people bash each other and cry on each others shoulders on how dismal things are.

And by the way, if Roe leaves like you suggest (I don't believe it) someone will take his place. The program goes on.

I'll be back in a few months to gloat if they "over achieve".

I'm all for everyone getting on this board, expressing their thoughts, and I want to see new faces and the old ones stick around. That being said, if you're "leaving for months" because of us, wow... I won't miss you.

Do me a personal favor... don't question how much I want this team to do well. We were down 4 to 1 with about 3 minutes left, and I was still cheering as loud as I could for them to come back. What's funny, is often I get called too optimistic and unrealistic outside of these boards, but I THOUGHT the purpose of these boards was to be more realistic (even if still having some "homer" to us) and talk hockey.

I'm frustrated, because I really believe that this year was a huge one for us. We lose Lasch and Raboin to graduation this year, though lately losing Raboin doesn't look like it'll be as big of a loss as I would've thought at the beginning of the year unless he turns it around. And you know what this kind of inconsistent play tends to lead us to? Losing Thursday or Friday at the X, if we get there, and being one and done in the NCAAs.

So if you want me to say we've played as good as we could, we've been consistent, we've always hustled, and mostly, we've gotten the most ouf of the talent we have every night on the ice... if that's what it'll take for me to get you back, then see ya later.
 
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I can see what Montelena is saying when if you read the majority of these posts and didn't know anything about our record or scoring or anything else, it'd be easy to think we are somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-14 and very few players that are playing should be playing at all, or maybe even be D-1 hockey players.
It's just a lot of negative posting, what's going wrong, what doesn't work, who doesn't do this, who can't do that, etc, with very little talk of what they are doing right.

And I do have to say this on Ryan, yes he has 3 points as a Husky and 2 goals, all of which came in the first 2 games he played.
His last 12 games, 0 points, so I don't really get where this "he can score" stuff comes from.
We would be hammering other forwards who couldn't produce a point in 12 games, no matter how much playing time they got or what line they were on.
But he hustles, so that's ok, he doesn't need to score right? (even if every other forward besides him and Peckskamp has at least 3 points this year (oops, there I go looking at stats again, silly me))
Also, Euro, Motzko isn't a god, he's a hockey coach but he does know more about his own team than you or I ever will so excuse me if I don't criticize his choices of who plays and who doesn't.
If he says it's based off practice and I don't see practice, who am I to criticize it?
The players aren't above crticism, see the above.
And if you think I make no points than what's supplied to me, well my response is opinions are like *******s....
 
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I guess it's the difference between a realistic and a pessimist. Yes, I do have an opinion the second half will show even better results. I'm a little confused. What does last years Gopher games have to do with this year? What makes Quinni so frightening? They just dropped games to Brown, Yale and tied Holy Cross. Are you worried about UAA, Brown and MTU at home? Why? Wisco will be very tough. CC on the road and UND at home should be splits. I would guess they'll go 12-6 over the last 18.

They'll by no means be an NCAA favorite come playoff time but I would not want to face them.

We have basically the same team as last year with basically the same record. I don't think comparing the two years is off base in this situation. Do I think the team could go 12-6 in the second half? Yes I think they have the talent to do that, but at this point I have no reason to think it will happen. Why? Becuase for the last year and half what you see is what you get and that is a very inconsistant team that looks great one weekend and crap the next. That is why they are one game over .500. I hope you are right and they start sweeping teams. I wouldn't be shocked if you are right, but I also wouldn't be shocked if they ended the year a couple games over .500.....
 
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