SCOTUS: sponsored by Harlan Crow

[psych]

Chevron deference has been dead since the Supreme Court started using their major questions doctrine, that was made up out of thin air, to shoot down Democratic executive branch initiatives. West Virginia v. EPA and Biden v. Nebraska are two examples.

 

[Swansong]

I know, I'm just mourning ahead.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

major questions doctrine

Short version: If enforcing an agency rule would hurt a corporation's profit margin or a Republican's re-election bid, then Congress has to pass legislation codifying said rule.

 

[Handyman]

Which is not likely to happen.

 

[dxmnkd316]

They're just going to rope-a-dope us along until we tune it out and they say yes, presidents do have full immunity, aren't they? And completely obliterate Chevron deference.

Biden should just move the entire 101st to outside maralago and the SCOTUS justices homes to kind of hammer the point why this is fucking insane.

 

[jericho]

Supreme Court upholds federal law banning domestic abusers to have guns. 8-1. I’ll let you guess who dissented.

 

[LynahFan]

Supreme Court upholds federal law banning domestic abusers to have guns. 8-1. I’ll let you guess who dissented.

Can just never rely on KBJ!

 

[aparch]

Supreme Court upholds federal law banning domestic abusers to have guns. 8-1. I’ll let you guess who dissented.

I mean, if I had to listen to my wife continually b*tch about January 6th from the comfort of my donor paid for RV while on vacation, I'd want to make sure I retain my gun rights after my actions too.

 

[mookie1995]

Supreme Court upholds federal law banning domestic abusers to have guns. 8-1. I’ll let you guess who dissented.

Where in the 2nd does it even mention domestic violence??

 

[Swansong]

I'm telling you. They're dumping the reasonable ones now to butter us up for the destruction of EMTALA, the final nail in the Chevron coffin, a decision that "interfering with a government activity" (or however the plain text reads) doesn't actually mean that and wipe out hundreds of January 6th convictions, and finally an absurd baby-splitting decision that some Presidents have immunity, specifically former presidents currently on trial for insurrection and stealing classified documents.


EMTALA should be 9-0 and the decision should simply site the Supremacy Clause.
Immunity should be 9-0 and should simply say "LOL GTFO, Traitor".


But they won't. Because at least 3, if not straight up 4, members of this SCOTUS are "conclusion first, reasoning whenever" assholes.

 

[Kepler]

Because at least 3, if not straight up 4, members of this SCOTUS are "conclusion first, reasoning whenever" *******s.

It's 5. Roberts sometimes tries to be a justice. Each of the other cons has a particular itch they will scratch sometime to break from the hard right agenda. But there's a 5-person majority on this Court that's going to jam the shiv of its ideology into the law's face, and they just don't care. None of them should be on the Court.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Alito has been absent from court for two days now?

did he leave his home on Juneteenth, see a minority, and go back inside for six more weeks?

 

[dxmnkd316]

I'm telling you. They're dumping the reasonable ones now to butter us up for the destruction of EMTALA, the final nail in the Chevron coffin, a decision that "interfering with a government activity" (or however the plain text reads) doesn't actually mean that and wipe out hundreds of January 6th convictions, and finally an absurd baby-splitting decision that some Presidents have immunity, specifically former presidents currently on trial for insurrection and stealing classified documents.


EMTALA should be 9-0 and the decision should simply site the Supremacy Clause.
Immunity should be 9-0 and should simply say "LOL GTFO, Traitor".


But they won't. Because at least 3, if not straight up 4, members of this SCOTUS are "conclusion first, reasoning whenever" *******s.

Yeah, I'm terribly worried about Chevron. I just don't understand how a government can operate at the federal level. I know that's the point, but like, it's pretty goddamn important!! I don't see how this wouldn't also render EOs moot at the same time. I thought the whole point of things like agency actions and EOs is that they fill in the blanks between the lines of the CFR.

Going back to the "All red shirts are now illegal" example that uno gave a few years ago. Without Chevron, how do we determine what shirts are red? Every law needs to say something like "Pantone Red 5" is now illegal and there's no way to get around it if they start making shirts that are Pantone Red 5-A?

Or am I completely missing something here?

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Yeah, I'm terribly worried about Chevron. I just don't understand how a government can operate at the federal level. I know that's the point, but like, it's pretty goddamn important!! I don't see how this wouldn't also render EOs moot at the same time. I thought the whole point of things like agency actions and EOs is that they fill in the blanks between the lines of the CFR.

Going back to the "All red shirts are now illegal" example that uno gave a few years ago. Without Chevron, how do we determine what shirts are red? Every law needs to say something like "Pantone Red 5" is now illegal and there's no way to get around it if they start making shirts that are Pantone Red 5-A?

Or am I completely missing something here?

I’m terrified of Chevron. I live in one of the bluest states and your employer has poisoned most of my family already. We get rid of chevron and I cannot imagine what non blue states will look like - we’ll see kids with 3 arms being born in our lifetime

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Americans don't have fundamental right to have spouses admitted, justices say. WASHINGTON—The Supreme Court ruled Friday that U.S. citizens don't have a fundamental right to have their noncitizen spouses admitted to the U.S.

What in the fucking hell is this BS?

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

What in the ****ing hell is this BS?

Im confused on what it means. Back in my younger days I was engaged to a foreigner and the process was pretty clear- had to apply for visa, no guarantee it’s granted.

 

[dxmnkd316]

I’m terrified of Chevron. I live in one of the bluest states and your employer has poisoned most of my family already. We get rid of chevron and I cannot imagine what non blue states will look like - we’ll see kids with 3 arms being born in our lifetime

I mean, yeah it's not great, but we're working on it. I'd be happy to explain why I know what I know off the public forums. Not because I can't discuss it, just don't like revealing too many details about my identity.

I'm also confident that living in a blue state won't protect us. It might for enough time to get out of the potential future hellhole but eventually some mine or chemical company is going to sue that state regulators don't have authority. The Supreme Court will then vest all authority into the federal agencies which have all been thoroughly castrated.

I just wrapped up reading Handmaiden's Tale a month or two ago and it's looking eerily similar to our current trajectory. It's kind of crazy.

 

[dxmnkd316]

What in the ****ing hell is this BS?

I think that's a misreading of the ruling from what I can tell. The ruling seems to state that you don't have a right to know precisely why they weren't admitted. Which isn't that great either!

But honestly, I'm not sure there is a right to have a non-citizen spouse admitted. Where is that right granted? It's certainly possible that congress passed a law establishing it, but I'm not sure I've ever seen it in a constitutional text. Could easily be talked out of this position though.

That said, I don't think the feds should be able to tell you to pound sand because you want to know why your husband wasn't granted a visa.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

I mean, yeah it's not great, but we're working on it. I'd be happy to explain why I know what I know off the public forums. Not because I can't discuss it, just don't like revealing too many details about my identity.

I'm also confident that living in a blue state won't protect us. It might for enough time to get out of the potential future hellhole but eventually some mine or chemical company is going to sue that state regulators don't have authority. The Supreme Court will then vest all authority into the federal agencies which have all been thoroughly castrated.

I just wrapped up reading Handmaiden's Tale a month or two ago and it's looking eerily similar to our current trajectory. It's kind of crazy.

Wasn’t meant to be personal! I’ve no doubt that company will continue to find ways to shortcut and poison. Just like my former employer finds new ways to harm people. I wonder which one is responsible for more deaths….could be close!

 

[Handyman]

I think that's a misreading of the ruling from what I can tell. The ruling seems to state that you don't have a right to know precisely why they weren't admitted. Which isn't that great either!

But honestly, I'm not sure there is a right to have a non-citizen spouse admitted. Where is that right granted? It's certainly possible that congress passed a law establishing it, but I'm not sure I've ever seen it in a constitutional text. Could easily be talked out of this position though.

That said, I don't think the feds should be able to tell you to pound sand because you want to know why your husband wasn't granted a visa.

Is that the case where the spouse was a criminal?

EOs existed before Chevron so I would assume there is something in place to keep them relevant.