MinnesotaNorthStar
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Contrary to what you see on Law and Order, it takes a bit longer than 2 days to investigate a case, and charges are not always filed.
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Sandusky/Penn State scandal
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Contrary to what you see on Law and Order, it takes a bit longer than 2 days to investigate a case, and charges are not always filed.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
Contrary to what you think, you CAN follow-up on a case.
Contrary to what you think, you CAN follow-up on a case.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
I never said you couldn't. Perhaps Paterno decided to let the campus police do their jobs, and not interfere with the investigation? We really don't know why he didn't (or even IF he didn't).
Contrary to what you think, you CAN follow-up on a case.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
Explain how following up once every couple months is interfering with police business.
I'll give you the second part.
Explain how following up once every couple months is interfering with police business.
I'll give you the second part.
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Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
Not just not following up..but continuing to allow him to conduct overnight camps at Penn St with KIDS
Not just not following up..but continuing to allow him to conduct overnight camps at Penn St with KIDS
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Ten years in which he continued to see Sandusky periodically show up around PSU functions (e.g. a closed practice) with kids in tow?
(Not sure why you edited the last two sentences out, I think they stand on their own, and if you don't want to claim them, I will.)
Ten years in which he continued to see Sandusky periodically show up around PSU functions (e.g. a closed practice) with kids in tow?
(Not sure why you edited the last two sentences out, I think they stand on their own, and if you don't want to claim them, I will.)
ExileOnDaytonStreet
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Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
Paterno deserves a certain benefit of the doubt, but it's not like this is a murder case with scant DNA evidence. Ten years is a **** long time for an investigation into a case that mostly requires witness testimony.
Even if I'm way off base with that, how do you in good conscience allow the ****ing pederast (assuming all allegations are true... and why wouldn't we) to be anywhere near campus?
Paterno deserves a certain benefit of the doubt, but it's not like this is a murder case with scant DNA evidence. Ten years is a **** long time for an investigation into a case that mostly requires witness testimony.
Even if I'm way off base with that, how do you in good conscience allow the ****ing pederast (assuming all allegations are true... and why wouldn't we) to be anywhere near campus?
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
That's the part that just kills me. It truly depresses me. I've been a PSU football fan for as long as I've been a Gopher fan. When I heard just how deep the story went, I felt sick.
I dunno. I just felt I'd probably be flamed for posting them. I'm happy to stand by them, I just felt they didn't add much to the point I was getting at.
That's the part that just kills me. It truly depresses me. I've been a PSU football fan for as long as I've been a Gopher fan. When I heard just how deep the story went, I felt sick.
I dunno. I just felt I'd probably be flamed for posting them. I'm happy to stand by them, I just felt they didn't add much to the point I was getting at.
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The really odd thing is that one assumes that if Paterno kept quiet, it was to protect the athletic department or the university from scandal, and yet the method of protecting involved allowing a suspected rapist of children continued free rein in the athletic department. How could that ever amount to protecting anything?
The really odd thing is that one assumes that if Paterno kept quiet, it was to protect the athletic department or the university from scandal, and yet the method of protecting involved allowing a suspected rapist of children continued free rein in the athletic department. How could that ever amount to protecting anything?
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I just read the indictment and there is plenty of blame to go around. Both the legal and moral obligations were not met by anyone involved. There needs to be a thorough "house cleaning" from the top down, including Paterno. It appears as though this is a case of many people trying to protect the University at any cost.
I just read the indictment and there is plenty of blame to go around. Both the legal and moral obligations were not met by anyone involved. There needs to be a thorough "house cleaning" from the top down, including Paterno. It appears as though this is a case of many people trying to protect the University at any cost.
MinnesotaNorthStar
Minding the gap
Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
I'll definitely concede the point about allowing Sandusky to continue being around kids until 2009.
I'll definitely concede the point about allowing Sandusky to continue being around kids until 2009.
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
From what I've read, it was as recent as this year, not just 2009.
From what I've read, it was as recent as this year, not just 2009.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
I suspect that many people were hoping that they would be able to keep the lid on this at least until Paterno retired if not until he was given a state funeral in State College. Unfortunately, that didn't happen and this whole situation will forever be how many people remember Paterno. If they had just dropped the legal boom on Sandusky back in 2002, the fallout from this would have been far less devastating to everyone involved.
I suspect that many people were hoping that they would be able to keep the lid on this at least until Paterno retired if not until he was given a state funeral in State College. Unfortunately, that didn't happen and this whole situation will forever be how many people remember Paterno. If they had just dropped the legal boom on Sandusky back in 2002, the fallout from this would have been far less devastating to everyone involved.
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A sad reflection on recent events.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
A sad reflection on recent events.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7205085/growing-penn-state
WeWantMore
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Re: Sandusky/Penn State scandal
I guess it could get ugly in State College tonight. Students gathering, police called...
I guess it could get ugly in State College tonight. Students gathering, police called...
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It's clear Joe has lost more than a step in the last few years. And it may be job one has been to get him one win past Eddie Robinson. And that may have been at the bottom of all of the "bad judgements" we've been discussing for the last couple of days. Bear Bryant stayed around too long, so did Bobby Bowden. I was working in Nebraska when Tom Osborne retired. He said he could no longer do the work of offensive coordinator. And if he couldn't do that, he wanted out. Heck, if all he wanted to do was get wins, he could still be "head coach." So the really sad irony here is that it appears people by commission or omission did what they could to get Joe the record. And now it's ashes.
It's clear Joe has lost more than a step in the last few years. And it may be job one has been to get him one win past Eddie Robinson. And that may have been at the bottom of all of the "bad judgements" we've been discussing for the last couple of days. Bear Bryant stayed around too long, so did Bobby Bowden. I was working in Nebraska when Tom Osborne retired. He said he could no longer do the work of offensive coordinator. And if he couldn't do that, he wanted out. Heck, if all he wanted to do was get wins, he could still be "head coach." So the really sad irony here is that it appears people by commission or omission did what they could to get Joe the record. And now it's ashes.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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Did this story break before or after he set the record? I didnt hear about it until after but doesnt mean it wasn't there.
Did this story break before or after he set the record? I didnt hear about it until after but doesnt mean it wasn't there.
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Exactly right. Often times, big time successful athletic programs believe they are invincible. It seems they become obsessed with success to the point that they (coaches, administration), feel that they will live forever at the pinnacle of athletic achievement and lose sight of moral, academic and ethical conduct.
Exactly right. Often times, big time successful athletic programs believe they are invincible. It seems they become obsessed with success to the point that they (coaches, administration), feel that they will live forever at the pinnacle of athletic achievement and lose sight of moral, academic and ethical conduct.
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The conspiracist in me makes me wonder if the perjurers didn't hide all info of the coverup from JoePa, so he could remain the shining upstanding face of PSU. NOT that I really believe that, mind you, that's a VERY IMPORTANT POINT. Just saying that it COULD be a possibility. The less people know, and the less people that know, all the better for the coverup.
Sadly, in cases such as this, I don't think anyone will find out the full truth, or how deep this really went. I just hope that the guilty parties (and at least THEY know who they are) burn in hell.
The conspiracist in me makes me wonder if the perjurers didn't hide all info of the coverup from JoePa, so he could remain the shining upstanding face of PSU. NOT that I really believe that, mind you, that's a VERY IMPORTANT POINT. Just saying that it COULD be a possibility. The less people know, and the less people that know, all the better for the coverup.
Sadly, in cases such as this, I don't think anyone will find out the full truth, or how deep this really went. I just hope that the guilty parties (and at least THEY know who they are) burn in hell.
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