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Russian Invasion of Ukraine

Ukrainian sites reporting that the Robotnye advance has put the wind up Russian official in Tokmak who have left the city, and that the next phase of the breakthrough is targeting the city, which is a depot and logistics hub.

While UA sites are certainly biased, they have not been exaggerating gains since the Zaporizhia oblast advance began on 8/25.

Tokmak would block two roads (P37 and TP401) which Russia is using to backfill reinforcements along that defensive line.

Also, Japan reported Russia pulled their SAMs out of the Kiril islands, so it's all hands on deck.
 
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3-month review of the offensive.

I have a question for people with military experience:

This has become a war of tree lines, with shifts in the line often counted in hundreds of meters. Artillery fire and drones dominate the battlefield, as small groups of infantry advance through dense minefields, field by field, tree line by tree line.

Does this mean advancing through a forested area to the tree line, then stopping and looking outwards over the open area, still taking advantage of cover; then sprinting across the open area to the next cover, plunging in, and then working slowly through that forested area, rinse and repeat?

Or do I have it backwards?
 
I would think it means, you advance under the cover of the tree line, halt at open space while the drones and artillery do their thing to clear it as well as possible, once clear, advance through to the next covered area, rinse and repeat.
 
I would think it means, you advance under the cover of the tree line, halt at open space while the drones and artillery do their thing to clear it as well as possible, once clear, advance through to the next covered area, rinse and repeat.

Thanks. I assume you have to run behind mine sweepers and you are very vulnerable, particularly since we can't/won't enforce a no fly.
 
I think the government had better have a plan for

1. what to do with manned space access if he cuts us off
2. How to use the laws to commandeer his equipment should the situation arise
3. Figure out what happens when he crosses the line for treason. and he's getting awfully close.
 
So Elon secretly turned off a star link satellite last year near crimea to stop a Ukrainian sneak attack.

stooge

My understanding is he’s done this multiple times. I’m sure he’s been told in no uncertain terms if starlink is used for some major attack against Russia he is getting the window treatment.
 
I don't think so. He knows where his bread is buttered. It ain't Russia. If the US cuts him off, he's fucked. The saudis and Russians won't make that up.

he will figure out exactly how long his leash is. Then, because he's a moron, at some point he'll get a running start and test it again.
 
I don't think so. He knows where his bread is buttered. It ain't Russia. If the US cuts him off, he's ****ed. The saudis and Russians won't make that up.

he will figure out exactly how long his leash is. Then, because he's a moron, at some point he'll get a running start and test it again.

Im glad you think the guy who thinks states are sterilizing kids and tweeting dog whistles about Jews will do the right thing lol
 
I actually agree with dx, only for different reasons. Part of it is the Saudis won't will never actually want it and the other part is if he pushes too far to be anti-US he is killing Tesla. China will never buy enough to make it work he needs the US...
 
In case anyone is unaware, SpaceX is working on a dedicated military/secure service called “Starshield.” I sure hope that program office has taken at least one of Musk’s balls as collateral so he doesn’t get any wise ideas.

https://spacenews.com/with-starshiel...es-for-battle/

Elmo has *zero* clue what's going on at SpaceX. Despite the title of CEO, he's just their bank.

The FAA Tweeted that the SpaceX and FAA joint investigation into the failed rocket launch of Starship is complete and there are 63 points that SpaceX must correct before the FAA will allow SpaceX to resume flights.

Musk replied to the FAA asking "what were the 63 points?"

The man who is CEO and claims to be so hands on with the day-to-day operations ISN'T AWARE OF THE GODDAMMED CORRECTIVE ACTIONS HIS OWN COMPANY FOUND.

There is speculation that he replied just to gin up his fanbase. But ffs...
 
Ukraine with the GLOC Block in Bakhmut.

Ukraine’s liberation of Klishchiivka and Andriivka south of Bakhmut may have degraded the Russian defense in the area south of Bakhmut and could have rendered combat ineffective as many as three Russian brigades according to Ukrainian military officials. Ukrainian Ground Forces Commander Colonel General Oleksandr Syrskyi stated on September 18 that Klishchiivka (7km southwest of Bakhmut) and Andriivka (10km southwest of Bakhmut) were important elements of the Russian Bakhmut-Horlivka defensive line that Ukrainian forces “breached.”[1] Ukrainian Eastern Group of Forces Spokesperson Captain Ilya Yevlash stated on September 17 that Ukraine’s liberation of Klishchiivka will allow Ukrainian forces to control Russian ground lines of communication (GLOCs) supplying the Russian force grouping in the Bakhmut area — likely referring to Ukrainian forces’ ability to establish fire control over the T0513 Bakhmut-Horlivka highway.[2] ISW is currently unable independently to evaluate the strength and extent of the Russian defensive fortifications in the Bakhmut area, although Russian forces have likely fortified their defense lines near Bakhmut less heavily than they did in southern Ukraine. Russian forces south of Bakhmut are also likely battle-weary from the recent efforts to hold Klishchiivka and Andriivka, and the Ukrainian capture of two settlements defending a key Russian GLOC supporting Bakhmut indicates that these forces will likely struggle to replenish their combat strength and defend against any further Ukrainian offensive activity south of Bakhmut. There are no immediate indications that the liberation of Klishchiivka and Andriivka will portend a higher rate of Ukrainian advance south of Bakhmut, however, and the Russian defense of positions west of the T0513 will likely continue to present challenges for Ukrainian forces in the area.

The Ukrainian liberation of two villages that Russian forces were fighting hard to hold could correspond with the severe degradation of the Russian units defending them, as Ukrainian advances in western Zaporizhia Oblast appear to correspond with the significant degradation of defending Russian units and formations in that sector of the front. Russian forces defending in western Zaporizhia Oblast since the start of the counteroffensive have done so largely without operational-level unit rotations and have likely suffered compounding losses.[3] Elements of the Russian 42nd Motorized Rifle Division’s 71st, 70th, and 291st Motorized Rifle Regiments (58th Combined Arms Army, Southern Military District)routinely repelled Ukrainian assaults and engaged in various “combat clashes,“ including limited engagements and some counterattacks, during the first phase of the counteroffensive from June to August 2023.[4] In mid-to-late August, Ukrainian forces began breaking through the initial Russian defensive layer that these elements of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Divisionhad spent considerable amounts of manpower, personnel, and effort to hold.[5] Russian reporting and footage suggest that many of these elements of the 42nd Motorized Rifle Division have since withdrawn to positions behind a subsequent Russian defensive layer between Verbove (18km southeast of Orikhiv) and Solodka Balka (20km south of Orikhiv) and now mainly shell advancing Ukrainian units.[6] The absence of recent reports and footage of these elements participating in combat engagements in western Zaporizhia Oblast suggests that casualties sustained during the first phases of the Ukrainian counteroffensiverendered them combat ineffective. Elements of the 70th Motorized Rifle Regiment reportedly temporarily withdrew to a rear area during the Ukrainian breakthrough and returned to frontline positions in early September, suggesting that Ukrainian advances had degraded this unit enough to compel the Russian command to give it time to refit in the rear — which would be one of the very few unit rotations ISW has observed on this sector of the front.[7] Elements of the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade (Black Sea Fleet), which also held forward positions at the initial Russian defensive layer during the earlier phases of the counteroffensive, similarly appear to be deployed further behind the Russian defensive layer ahead of the current Ukraine advance.[8] Elements of the 810th Naval Infantry Brigade reportedly engaged in close combat during the Ukrainian push through Robotyne (10km south of Orikhiv), and Russian milbloggers maintain that some elements of the unit hold positions near the southern outskirts of Robotyne.[9]

Ukrainian counteroffensive operations may have resulted in the particularly severe degradation of critical elements of the Russian elastic defense in western Zaporizhia Oblast. Elements of the Russian 22nd and 45th Separate Spetsnaz Brigades appeared to be responsible for counterattacking against significant Ukrainian advances in the Robotyne area during the earlier phases of the counteroffensive and likely suffered heavy losses in these operations.[10] Russian reporting and footage of the Robotyne area in recent weeks has largely omitted mention of these Spetsnaz brigades, suggesting that this degradation may have severely impacted their ability to continue counterattacking. A prominent milblogger claimed that elements of the 45th Spetsnaz Brigade were still operating near the frontline as of September 12, however.[11] Elements of the Russian 7th Guards Mountain Airborne (VDV) Division that laterally deployed to the Robotyne area in mid-August during the Ukrainian breakthrough now appear to be responsible for conducting counterattacks against the most forward advances of the Ukrainian breach.[12] Russian sources routinely claim that VDV elements, which may include elements of the 76th Guards VDV Division that also laterally redeployed to the area, repel Ukrainian assaults and conduct counterattacks near Robotyne[13] The degradation of the elements of the 22nd and 45th Separate Spetsnaz Brigades initially responsible for counterattacking in the Robotyne area likely prompted the Russian command to laterally redeploy these elements of the 7th and 76th VDV Divisions to assume responsibility for counterattacking. The Russian elastic defense requires one echelon of Russian forces to slow a Ukrainian tactical advance while a second echelon of forces rolls back that advance through counterattacking. Counterattacking requires significant morale and relatively high combat capabilities, and the Russian military appears to rely on relatively elite VDV units and formations for this undertaking, possibly at the expense of heavily degrading these forces.[14]
 
I can't tell if this has any validity but I find it worth watching to suggest new ideas. I have found the guy, after a few videos, to be thought-provoking.
 
No idea if his details are correct but in general, if someone who is otherwise intelligent (appearing to be, anyway) is making decisions you cannot justify, perhaps the issue is that their goal is not what you think it is.
 
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