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RPI Off-Season Thread 2012 Part II: (Insert Title Here)

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RPI Athletics does seem quite slow these days. I am still waiting for them to update the individual player pages linked from the roster to reflect the 11-12 season. :) In the past this was done before the end of the school year.

We are indeed quite spoiled these days with the internet and technology. I remember having to try to get brief sports reports that I could sometimes here down here in NJ broadcast during the sports report on WGY radio. Used to have to look at the Tuesday NY Times sports section just to see the ECAC hockey standings.
 
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If anything, three goaltenders means we'll be solid at that position because of the competition for ice time. We also don't have to put all our faith into one guy (like with York in 2010-11, and when he had his concussion, that pretty much led to our meltdown that season).

I can't see anything positive coming out of the three goalie situation. Every game, one scholarship goalie is going to be sitting. In the away games, they might no even make the trip. In the "room", each goaltender will have his following amongst the skaters.
Each of the goalies have professional ambitions and will not get the playing time they need to show off their skills.
I just don't like this whole situation. JMO
 
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I can't see anything positive coming out of the three goalie situation. Every game, one scholarship goalie is going to be sitting. In the away games, they might no even make the trip. In the "room", each goaltender will have his following amongst the skaters.
Each of the goalies have professional ambitions and will not get the playing time they need to show off their skills.
I just don't like this whole situation. JMO
It's quite far down on my list of concerns. Also remember that SA was never the top goalie at FSU.
 
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We are indeed quite spoiled these days with the internet and technology. I remember having to try to get brief sports reports that I could sometimes here down here in NJ broadcast during the sports report on WGY radio. Used to have to look at the Tuesday NY Times sports section just to see the ECAC hockey standings.
Excellent point.
 
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I can't see anything positive coming out of the three goalie situation. Every game, one scholarship goalie is going to be sitting. In the away games, they might no even make the trip. In the "room", each goaltender will have his following amongst the skaters.
Each of the goalies have professional ambitions and will not get the playing time they need to show off their skills.
I just don't like this whole situation. JMO

I'm with Ralph -its less than ideal, but certainly not tragic. Merriam is the heir apparent, but it would not surprise me at all if Diebold pushes him for major playing time. Kasdorf didn't have a good season in the USHL last year (admittedly, on a bad team). He will use his frosh year to grow physically and hone his skills...if he surprises and comes out on fire, then so much the better. Competition is good.
 
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O'Grady had surgery on hip this week. Believe he will be out 3 to 4 months but not certain if I heard right.

Wow, If you did hear right this could be bad news. Off season training will be very limited I would think and he might not be in game shape until new years. Wonder how much of the season he played with the bad hip?
 
Wow, If you did hear right this could be bad news. Off season training will be very limited I would think and he might not be in game shape until new years. Wonder how much of the season he played with the bad hip?

I'm not sure if it was from during the season or not. I do know he tore a muscle in the hip and that is what he had the surgery to fix. Therefore, I want to say I did hear right that it will take 3 to 4 months to recover properly.
 
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Today is 9 June 2012. There are 119 days (17 weeks) until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 6 October for the start of next season.

That is the day that an exhibition game is supposedly scheduled.



In case I forget, 8:45 PM 6/23/12 is the halfway point.
 
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I'm not sure if it was from during the season or not. I do know he tore a muscle in the hip and that is what he had the surgery to fix. Therefore, I want to say I did hear right that it will take 3 to 4 months to recover properly.

Totally depends on 3 things-what exactly was repaired, whether it was done in open surgery or laporascopically, and of course complications. He is young which is a big plus. Most hip surgery statistics are based on much older patients so they may not be of any predictive value in this case. There is a massive difference between doing a little muscle tear repair and trying to repair a labrum or some cartillage or shaving some bone. Being able to do any procedure through a small laporascopic incision usually prolongs the time it takes to do the surgery but shortens the healing considerably. Complications? Who knows-there are just so many things to have to watch for and some you just cannot prepare for in any way. I would suspect if this was the most minor of corrections that we are looking at 3 months minimum before any serious skating can begin. Worst case scenario is perhaps as long as 18 months (egad! Yes even in a healthy 20+ year old it can take that long). And of course we are not talking about just recovering to be able to walk and support himself-we are looking for the recovery time to be able to skate with power and speed and absorb contact. One saving grace is that hip surgery recovery is often quicker than serious knee surgery recovery as a ball and socket type joint is far more stable and able to support weight than a hinge type joint. My best guess(without knowing many details) is he could be skating by October-but if not, then it could be a season long recovery issue.
 
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I didn't feel like starting a new thread.

Schott has quotes from Niagara's AD about the proposed rule changes.

Highlights:
- No hand passes in any zone
- "Recommendation" that conferences move to a 4v4 5-minute overtime
- Michigan State's "goal" in the Regionals will count in the future
- DQ penalties are reviewable (by the official that made the call)

As a hockey traditionalist-I sure do not like that 4x4 overtime recommendation. i love the game the way it has been played for years-and without shootouts! If you don't want to see a tie-then play longer sudden death OT. I am pretty sure that every hockey fan enjoys the drama and tension of the Stanley Cup games far more than the regular season.
 
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As a hockey traditionalist-I sure do not like that 4x4 overtime recommendation. i love the game the way it has been played for years-and without shootouts! If you don't want to see a tie-then play longer sudden death OT. I am pretty sure that every hockey fan enjoys the drama and tension of the Stanley Cup games far more than the regular season.

As a traditionalist, I agree. But I would much rather see 4 on 4 overtimes than a shoot out. At least it is still hockey and not target practice.
 
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As a traditionalist, I agree. But I would much rather see 4 on 4 overtimes than a shoot out. At least it is still hockey and not target practice.

That's exactly my opinion. I can live with 4 on 4. A shootout is not hockey.
 
Totally depends on 3 things-what exactly was repaired, whether it was done in open surgery or laporascopically, and of course complications. He is young which is a big plus. Most hip surgery statistics are based on much older patients so they may not be of any predictive value in this case. There is a massive difference between doing a little muscle tear repair and trying to repair a labrum or some cartillage or shaving some bone. Being able to do any procedure through a small laporascopic incision usually prolongs the time it takes to do the surgery but shortens the healing considerably. Complications? Who knows-there are just so many things to have to watch for and some you just cannot prepare for in any way. I would suspect if this was the most minor of corrections that we are looking at 3 months minimum before any serious skating can begin. Worst case scenario is perhaps as long as 18 months (egad! Yes even in a healthy 20+ year old it can take that long). And of course we are not talking about just recovering to be able to walk and support himself-we are looking for the recovery time to be able to skate with power and speed and absorb contact. One saving grace is that hip surgery recovery is often quicker than serious knee surgery recovery as a ball and socket type joint is far more stable and able to support weight than a hinge type joint. My best guess(without knowing many details) is he could be skating by October-but if not, then it could be a season long recovery issue.

Not being a doctor I thought it was a muscle tear but I do know it was said to be a labrum tear in the hip.
 
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Not being a doctor I thought it was a muscle tear but I do know it was said to be a labrum tear in the hip.

Just as an example-The American sprinter Tyson Gay had a small tear of a hip labrum last July which was rapidly operated on. He ran his first race today-and won the 100 meters in 10.0(but it took 11 months for him to run in a meet from the time of surgery). I must add though that even labrum tears come in all sorts of degrees and this tear was small. The severity of the origianl tear has a considerable effect on the surgery and of course the recuperation. Hopefully, the best case scenario will hold and we will see Marty back on the ice at virtually full speed by October. But without a lot more details it is impossible to know for sure.
 
Just as an example-The American sprinter Tyson Gay had a small tear of a hip labrum last July which was rapidly operated on. He ran his first race today-and won the 100 meters in 10.0(but it took 11 months for him to run in a meet from the time of surgery). I must add though that even labrum tears come in all sorts of degrees and this tear was small. The severity of the origianl tear has a considerable effect on the surgery and of course the recuperation. Hopefully, the best case scenario will hold and we will see Marty back on the ice at virtually full speed by October. But without a lot more details it is impossible to know for sure.

Hopefully we do and I wish him the best while he recovers.
 
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Today is 10 June 2012. There are 118 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 6 October for the start of next season.

That is the day that an exhibition game is supposedly scheduled.
 
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As a traditionalist, I agree. But I would much rather see 4 on 4 overtimes than a shoot out. At least it is still hockey and not target practice.

Surely any sort of OT is better than target practice. But the game has been 5 on 5 for a long time. 4 on 4 is not only a different game-but the real problem occurs with a penalty-putting you down to 3 skaters which gives a much larger advantage to the other team as you can no longer defend a penalty in the traditional box as you could, had the OT been 5 on 5. There are numerous things they can tinker with if they want-especially for the safety of the players-but i hate when they make changes that not only affect how the game is played, but render all sorts of statistics useless in comparison. As an example-just look at what the introduction of the DH in the American league has done to baseball stats. Although people insist on doing it, virtually all stats in the American league have been affected and you just cannot compare them to stats in the National league or for that matter to stats in the American league from before the DH. But that is just one sports fan's opinion.:)
 
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