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RPI Off-Season Thread 2012 Part II: (Insert Title Here)

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Ralph Baer said:
What is RD?
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RD is Resident Director. It's basically the lead person of the dudes that make sure the dorm is kosher and safe (i.e. no fire hazards, dorm regulations are followed, etc.).

EDIT: burgie12 beat me to it (I think that makes the score about 1234589752 to 3), but I forgot about that RA one. I think the first year they started to deny freshmen despite saying they could become RAs and have them go through the lengthy application process was the year that I had left.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
RD is Resident Director. It's basically the lead person of the dudes that make sure the dorm is kosher and safe (i.e. no fire hazards, dorm regulations are followed, etc.).

EDIT: burgie12 beat me to it (I think that makes the score about 1234589752 to 3), but I forgot about that RA one. I think the first year they started to deny freshmen despite saying they could become RAs and have them go through the lengthy application process was the year that I had left.
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I didn't realize there were two different situations. Yea, I'm pretty sure that the freshman RA fiasco was either 08-09 or 09-10, because I know classmates who were accepted into RA positions (and my freshman year was 07-08). I thought it coincided with the opening of the Best Western, but that doesn't jive with the facts that I semi-remember.
 
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burgie12 said:
I didn't realize there were two different situations. Yea, I'm pretty sure that the freshman RA fiasco was either 08-09 or 09-10, because I know classmates who were accepted into RA positions (and my freshman year was 07-08). I thought it coincided with the opening of the Best Western, but that doesn't jive with the facts that I semi-remember.
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It was sometime around then. All I remember was that I was trying to get through VLSI and ACHD.
 
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DrDemento said:
$50K a year? Wow am I glad I paid tuition back in the early 60's.
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I wonder how close it was to "the same" back then as now.....we'll see.

According to Department of Labor, Dec 2011 CPI was 224.94 while Dec 1964 CPI was 31.0. In other words, $50,000 in Dec 2011 = $6,890 in Dec 1964.


Hmm....probably a little lower then, not by much though I'll bet.
 
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FreshFish said:
I wonder how close it was to "the same" back then as now.....we'll see.

According to Department of Labor, Dec 2011 CPI was 224.94 while Dec 1964 CPI was 31.0. In other words, $50,000 in Dec 2011 = $6,890 in Dec 1964.


Hmm....probably a little lower then, not by much though I'll bet.
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It was lower. Tuition in 64-65, my freshman year, was $1600/year. It was $1800 each of the next two years and $2050 when I was a senior. I don't recall how much room and board amounted to.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
It was lower. Tuition in 64-65, my freshman year, was $1600/year. It was $1800 each of the next two years and $2050 when I was a senior. I don't recall how much room and board amounted to.
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IIRC, I think R&B is about 40% of the $50K lugnut cited, though I'm not sure. so if we divide $1,800 by .6 we get $3,000. Wow. So it is now more than twice what it was then. :eek:

on the other hand, if the propaganda about the value of a college degree is to be believed, the supposed "value" of incremental differential earnings might be higher now as well.

still, it does seem like college is partly a racket (not RPI, engineering is probably even more valuable now than ever!), I'm talking about the "general education" type majors.

I read an interesting "take" on this subject. Businesses generally would like to use IQ testing, etc. straight out as part of the hiring process (according to this theory), but they can't because that would be "discriminatory" so they use college degree as a substitute (in other words, since businesses can't "discriminate" they let colleges "discriminate" for them by proxy).

Probably some validity but not to the extent that I stated it....still, it does give some insight into why there are so many people in college administration devoted to "diversity" nonsense*



*the "tower of Babel" story illustrates what happens when "diversity" becomes valued as an end in itself rather than merely as a means to an end.
 
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OK, this has been confusing me for a while... why does REDaero91 have a + next to her name on my thread information list?
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
OK, this has been confusing me for a while... why does REDaero91 have a + next to her name on my thread information list?
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In was going to say that it means that she was a "friend", but that isn't the case.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
In was going to say that it means that she was a "friend", but that isn't the case.
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You're on my buddy list, and I don't see one next to your name. Doing a search on vBulletin helps do indicate what you said is true. Perhaps she friended me and I have yet to friend her back?

EDIT: It does have to do with friends. I friended her, but she has yet to friend me back.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You're on my buddy list, and I don't see one next to your name. Doing a search on vBulletin helps do indicate what you said is true. Perhaps she friended me and I have yet to friend her back?

EDIT: It does have to do with friends. I friended her, but she has yet to friend me back.
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I see one next to your name.
 
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lugnut92 said:
Tuition is $43,350 this coming year.
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Yep. It keeps going up. The estimated "cost of attendance" is closer to $60,000, but that includes the cost of books and "personal and misc.", which of course varies and is generally much lower than what they estimate-who would pay bookstore prices for textbooks unless they absolutely had to? That's why we have Amazon.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
You're on my buddy list, and I don't see one next to your name. Doing a search on vBulletin helps do indicate what you said is true. Perhaps she friended me and I have yet to friend her back?

EDIT: It does have to do with friends. I friended her, but she has yet to friend me back.
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My bad. Oh look, I have a notification...
 
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There's some more work that I want to put into this spreadsheet, but since all of the data is included, here's a preliminary link.

Attendance at ECAC league games since 2005-06 (aka current members only)!

Disclaimers:
- Does not include playoffs.
- Does not include non-conference games.
- Uses "self-reported" statistics, aka collegehockeystats.net. (Ivies tend to inflate attendance numbers in addition to their grades.)
- Arena capacity is a funny issue because teams will sell a number of tickets that may not correspond with the reported capacity and claim it as a sell-out. I used the highest number of tickets sold in the reported sell-outs for a season, the reported capacity (if there were no sell-outs), or the same capacity as the season before.
- Games held at the XL Center and Fenway Park skew % capacity against Quinnipiac and Harvard, respectively.
- I still cannot find the attendance for the Princeton @ Colgate Nov 2010 game. It had been 1350 in my previous version of the spreadsheet, but I don't really believe it. That's exceptionally high for what the Raiders drew the rest of the season, but could conceivably be that high since it was the league home opener and a homecoming weekend game of sorts.

Charts that I need to build:
- Attendance / %Capacity vs Record (including a series for the Cleary Cup champions)
- Attendance / %Capacity vs Previous Season's Record
- Attendance / %Capacity vs Season
- Attendance / %Capacity without outliers (arenas with capacity >5,500) vs Season
- "Big-name draw" (aka average attendance vs one opponent compared to overall average attendance or average attendance without that opponent) for each team

Statistical Ramblings:
- RPI is third in overall attendance (3514 / game), just an average of 20 fans per game below Dartmouth.
- RPI's average attendance is greater than the capacity of every team but Dartmouth, Quinnipiac, Cornell, and Clarkson. It's actually greater than the capacity for Clarkson and Quinnipiac, but they pack in the SRO tickets against SLU and Yale, respectively.
- On an average basis, RPI fills just less than 70% of their seats, 4th lowest in the conference.
- Over the past three seasons, those numbers have fallen to 3400 / game (still good for 3rd, but behind Yale, not Dartmouth) and 69.1% capacity (8th, up from 9th, once you take out the Fenway game from Harvard's total).
- Last season, RPI had an average of 3545 fans per game (2nd) and 73.5% capacity (7th).
- Brown is the only team to not have reported a sellout in the past 7 seasons.
- Brown is below 50% capacity overall, in the past three seasons, and in just last season.
- Cornell has reported an impressive 62 sellouts in their 77 opportunities, including all 11 games from last season.
- Quinnipiac has had the worst track record of claiming a sellout for multiple games with different numbers of tickets sold (90.57% capacity in sellouts).
 
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REDaero91 said:
Yep. It keeps going up. The estimated "cost of attendance" is closer to $60,000, but that includes the cost of books and "personal and misc.", which of course varies and is generally much lower than what they estimate-who would pay bookstore prices for textbooks unless they absolutely had to? That's why we have Amazon.
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That's also why you have upperclassmen.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Just call me no one.
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Hi, I'm no three. (Welcome back, Red. Hope all is well.)

Let me throw in a data point for the tuition tracker... As I recall: Tuition (no room & board) for 73/74 (freshman) $2,400 and 76/77 (senior) $2,850. Between the Renss Union & APO for secondhand books I probably spent about $100 a semester during freshman year and about $140/150 a semester during senior year.
 
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