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RPI Off-Season Thread 2012: An Off-Season to Be Optimistic

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DrDemento said:
Exactly the kind of response I was looking for. I do think the sample is small and perhaps skewed. But it does stand out a bit when we seem to lose almost all our NHL draftees over a few year period.
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Do you think any of it has to do with the school standards they need to keep? I have heard that York was having trouble keeping his grades up and that D'Amigo would probably never had graduated from the school anyway. However in PK's case I do not think this is the case. I have heard he is an excellent student. Therefore, if this is true I am surprised since I personally asked him one night in the beginning of the season if he was a 4 year guy and he told me yes. He said he understood how important a degree was in the "real world" should something happen he couldn't play hockey anymore.

Perhaps it just means Seth is a really good coach and is good at developing the kids.
 
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Today is 21 April 2012. There are 168 days (24 weeks) until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 6 October for the start of next season.

That is the day that an exhibition game is supposedly scheduled.
 
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WillOutDrinkYou said:
I think it is definite him and Bergin will not be back. I also heard from someone earlier tonight that we will win at least 20 games next year. Though it would be great to see how many think that is true or possible?
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Certainly possible, but it will require the team to find itself much earlier than last season. Lets go for 21 wins so we reach 1000 total. :)
 
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WillOutDrinkYou said:
Therefore, if this is true I am surprised since I personally asked him one night in the beginning of the season if he was a 4 year guy and he told me yes. He said he understood how important a degree was in the "real world" should something happen he couldn't play hockey anymore.
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He could be going to the USHL or back the OJHL and then show up at another school in 2013.
 
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Pat is a great kid. Very classy young man and would always take time to say hello and shot the brezze. I got to know Pat's Dad who was a fixture at the west end of HFH. Jim was always kind to tb and I and we will miss him coming up to Sec. 9 and sitting with us for a Period. At road games, Jim would share stories from his old hockey days when we would sit with him...good times. God speed to Pat and Jimmy. All my best.
 
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Never like to see anyone leave a program who isnt going to the NHL but thats the way things are these days in the NCAA. Just goes to show that no spot is reserved on this team and you gotta earn it from Monday-Thursday in practice, which is a good thing. Best of luck to Patrick in his future.
 
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REDaero91 said:
If it's true and he's leaving...I wonder which came first: is he going to junior because of the lack of play at RPI and the Capitals wanting him to have a better chance to develop, or did he make the decision to leave after the school year and tell Coach, and that's why he played less-giving others who would be staying the chance to get used to our system?
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My gut feeling is that the coach sat him and then he decided to leave, not vice versa. I don't think SA is one to give up on the present season. He plays whomever he feels is perfoming the best. During the playoffs he felt we could win and would have played PK if he felt it would have improved our chances.

I also echo Aspydad's statements about PK's dad. I met Jim Koudys at the Caps' rookie camp last summer and enjoyed listening to him. I guess there is no need to go there this year.
 
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knsmith said:
Also, I think the dire state of recruiting in Fridgen's last view years skew the view a bit -- before Appert, we went three or four years with almost no draftees on the roster.
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In most college hockey programs, 90%-100% of the recruiting is done by the assistants. Not having any draft choices is not always a bad thing......less headaches to deal with regarding the NHL teams, agents, etc.

Also, just because a player is drafted doesn't necessarily mean the player is better than non-drafted players.
 
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WillOutDrinkYou said:
Do you think any of it has to do with the school standards they need to keep? I have heard that York was having trouble keeping his grades up and that D'Amigo would probably never had graduated from the school anyway. However in PK's case I do not think this is the case. I have heard he is an excellent student. Therefore, if this is true I am surprised since I personally asked him one night in the beginning of the season if he was a 4 year guy and he told me yes. He said he understood how important a degree was in the "real world" should something happen he couldn't play hockey anymore.

Perhaps it just means Seth is a really good coach and is good at developing the kids.
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Not sure what the reason is that we lose our NHL drafted players so early. Perhaps it is just the new economy or the way things have changed in college hockey-that is why I posted the query. I just wanted others to chime in and give opinions. I go back a long way with RPI hockey and we have had quite a few drafted players on the roster as far back as Don Cutts (1973 I think?). It just seemed to me that we did not have a lot of early departures before about 2004. We've had players leave for all sorts of reasons but I just could not recall so many who had been drafted leave in such a short period of time. Besides-the long off season gets horribly boring and stale and was just trying to inject something for us to chat about.
 
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Don't be surprised to see PK in Dubuque. No knowledge but just guessing.
 
sk8tronthepond said:
In most college hockey programs, 90%-100% of the recruiting is done by the assistants. Not having any draft choices is not always a bad thing......less headaches to deal with regarding the NHL teams, agents, etc.

Also, just because a player is drafted doesn't necessarily mean the player is better than non-drafted players.[/QUOTE

appert was the one who got haggerty here.
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sk8tronthepond said:
In most college hockey programs, 90%-100% of the recruiting is done by the assistants. Not having any draft choices is not always a bad thing......less headaches to deal with regarding the NHL teams, agents, etc.

Also, just because a player is drafted doesn't necessarily mean the player is better than non-drafted players.
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I may very well be in the minority, but I agree with this. A couple of draft picks is fine -- lets recruits know you are landing quality guys. But give me a Chase Polacek, Ryan Haggerty (or Jeremy Welsh) any day of the week. You bust your *** in D1 and you'll end up with more than one offer...never a bad thing.
 
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rvd5star69 said:
sk8tronthepond said:
In most college hockey programs, 90%-100% of the recruiting is done by the assistants. Not having any draft choices is not always a bad thing......less headaches to deal with regarding the NHL teams, agents, etc.

Also, just because a player is drafted doesn't necessarily mean the player is better than non-drafted players.[/QUOTE

appert was the one who got haggerty here.
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You're both right. The ACs put in the major miles ID'ing and tracking talent. Then you whittle the list with the HC and he decides on offers. I believe D'Amigo credited Monty for being there early and often...and I've seen Appert at Albany Academy games on a weeknight (watching Bourbannais) with his daughters in tow. Its a divide and conquer effort for D1 coaching staffs.
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rvd5star69 said:
sk8tronthepond said:
In most college hockey programs, 90%-100% of the recruiting is done by the assistants. Not having any draft choices is not always a bad thing......less headaches to deal with regarding the NHL teams, agents, etc.

Also, just because a player is drafted doesn't necessarily mean the player is better than non-drafted players.[/QUOTE

What does this mean? Haggs as far as I know has not been drafted by a team. I also hear he does not go to classes often if at all. Therefore, how long do you think he will stay eligible to play? He did stand out as a freshman and I think he has a lot of talent to prove to us. Though, if he does not do well in the classroom we may not see him on the ice.

What does this mean? Haggs as far as I know has not been drafted by a team. I also hear he does not go to classes often if at all. Therefore, how long do you think he will stay eligible to play? He did stand out as a freshman and I think he has a lot of talent to prove to us. Though, if he does not do well in the classroom we may not see him on the ice.

appert was the one who got haggerty here.
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