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RPI Off-Season III: Another Helping of Mindless Speculation and Idle Chit Chat

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Nice link fishcore. Is the "time he screwed up" the trip to Florida?
 
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[Most in the RPI crowd lack originality and spend more time riding officials than supporting the home team. :eek: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JF8oSxXtM

The first 30-45 seconds of that would be great to play just before the team hits the ice for introductions, or after intros and just before the puck drops. It might not inspire the crowd on the south side of the building, but it would get many of the others in the arena fired up.
 
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Your Right...Lynah doesn't have bench seats,a wooden roof,and a high school scoreboard hanging on the wall....and the fans and the coach never complain about the officiating....what was I thinking ?....Oh ! I got all confused w/the facts

You miss the point. The wooden rafters, low roof, close proximity of the fans, old barn feeling and tradition all go into creating one of the best venues in the east.
Just about all fans and coaches complain about officiating. At Lynah, it is not usually the main focus of those in attendance. During many games at HFH it is the prime focus of too many of the home fans. I would like to see more fans at RPI games focus more on cheering FOR RPI and a little less on berating officials. Just my humble opinion.
 
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From another thread on this site.
Update on possible move to the Dunk - scroll down

http://www.projo.com/pc/content/Divv..._v2.96876.html


Three thoughts on this:
1) At least the commissioner is willing to admit that AC was probably a mistake.
2) Is the ECAC going to keep shopping this to the highest bidder every year or two?
3) Unless the conference makes more of a committment to making it a fan-friendly, first class event it won't matter much.
 
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From another thread on this site.
Update on possible move to the Dunk - scroll down

http://www.projo.com/pc/content/Divv..._v2.96876.html


Three thoughts on this:
1) At least the commissioner is willing to admit that AC was probably a mistake.
2) Is the ECAC going to keep shopping this to the highest bidder every year or two?
3) Unless the conference makes more of a committment to making it a fan-friendly, first class event it won't matter much.

This should work as the link: http://www.projo.com/pc/content/Divver_Capuano_hockey_notes_09-11-11_DKQ9K44_v2.96876.html
 
Re: RPI Off-Season III: Another Helping of Mindless Speculation and Idle Chit Chat

You miss the point. The wooden rafters, low roof, close proximity of the fans, old barn feeling and tradition all go into creating one of the best venues in the east.
Just about all fans and coaches complain about officiating. At Lynah, it is not usually the main focus of those in attendance. During many games at HFH it is the prime focus of too many of the home fans. I would like to see more fans at RPI games focus more on cheering FOR RPI and a little less on berating officials. Just my humble opinion.

The prime focus of the Lynah faithful are the robotic-like sayings. They're too predictable.

The prime focus of those in HFH is the game. Whether it means cheering for us, against our opponents (which occurs quite often in the repertoire of your idolised Lynah faithful, an average of 4 times per period), or whining that we were hosed by a third party. But hey, some people take the NCAA Crowd Control statement to heart, and I will respect that desire.
 
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Quote from the article, "Steve Hagwell, the ECAC Hockey commissioner, and Paul Stewart, the league’s director of officials, met with Bennett in Providence on Sept. 1 and were open to the idea of moving the tournament from Atlantic City, N.J., Bennett said."

Why is Paul Stewart involved in this decision? I get the distinct impression that Mr. Stewart is running this league. Mr. Hagwell should have relieved him of his duties after the Klump situation. Mr. Hagwell's over reliance on Mr. Stewart shows why he did not take him to task and why there are issues with regard to confidence in the league.
 
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You miss the point. The wooden rafters, low roof, close proximity of the fans, old barn feeling and tradition all go into creating one of the best venues in the east.
Just about all fans and coaches complain about officiating. At Lynah, it is not usually the main focus of those in attendance. During many games at HFH it is the prime focus of too many of the home fans. I would like to see more fans at RPI games focus more on cheering FOR RPI and a little less on berating officials. Just my humble opinion.

Your opinion sucks.
 
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Quote from the article, "Steve Hagwell, the ECAC Hockey commissioner, and Paul Stewart, the league’s director of officials, met with Bennett in Providence on Sept. 1 and were open to the idea of moving the tournament from Atlantic City, N.J., Bennett said."

Why is Paul Stewart involved in this decision? I get the distinct impression that Mr. Stewart is running this league. Mr. Hagwell should have relieved him of his duties after the Klump situation. Mr. Hagwell's over reliance on Mr. Stewart shows why he did not take him to task and why there are issues with regard to confidence in the league.

I would venture a guess that because Mr. Stewart is a senior officer in the league, he has a vote in what happens. Not to mention, he is responsible for assigning job duties to his subordinates (including a significant salary and travel reimbursement budget), so if I were Mr. Hagwell, I'd definitely get my senior officials' coordinator involved early in the process.

If Mr. Stewart were running the league, he would not have been fined or reprimanded for the actions of which you speak. Is there a lack of league confidence? Perhaps. Is there anyone else better to do the job? They have a point when they say that tryouts are in August. Those men (and women, although usually you only see them in a women's game) come out, giving up Fridays and weekend overtime in their day jobs, to officiate out of their love of hockey. I realize they are for hire and are not volunteer referees so there is some expectation that they do the job well, but it's something that needs to be respected.

On an unrelated note, I just received for my fortune cookie, "Pessimism never won any battle." Food for thought. :)
 
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Atta Boy. Creative retort.
 
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I would venture a guess that because Mr. Stewart is a senior officer in the league, he has a vote in what happens. Not to mention, he is responsible for assigning job duties to his subordinates (including a significant salary and travel reimbursement budget), so if I were Mr. Hagwell, I'd definitely get my senior officials' coordinator involved early in the process.

If Mr. Stewart were running the league, he would not have been fined or reprimanded for the actions of which you speak. Is there a lack of league confidence? Perhaps. Is there anyone else better to do the job? They have a point when they say that tryouts are in August. Those men (and women, although usually you only see them in a women's game) come out, giving up Fridays and weekend overtime in their day jobs, to officiate out of their love of hockey. I realize they are for hire and are not volunteer referees so there is some expectation that they do the job well, but it's something that needs to be respected.

On an unrelated note, I just received for my fortune cookie, "Pessimism never won any battle." Food for thought. :)

FDude, I appreciate the time and effort that you put into this but don't you bring your marketing people or press folks. Maybe he did... we don't know, it seems that it would have been mentioned in the article. Let me get straight to my point. I believe that he does not call the shots ... I believe Mr. Stewart does. Mr. Hagwell should direct Mr. Stewert's attention to his main job desciption and that is training and providing competent leadership to the referees. I believe that he has enough on his hands with these duties.
 
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Good post.
Stewart has been around hockey long enough to know just about everyone involved. His relationship with the people in Providence is probably a major consideration for having him involved in the meeting.
 
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I believe Commissioner Hagwell and one other person do the PR, media relations and marketing for ECAC Hockey. That is part of the problem.
 
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I would venture a guess that because Mr. Stewart is a senior officer in the league, he has a vote in what happens. ...

Wrong. Hagwell reports to the coaches/ADs, who have the votes and the decision making powers. Hagwell's job is to present the most attractive options and let his bosses decide. Stewart should have ZERO influence on anything other than matters surrounding officiating. If he's involved with the ongoing location debacle, than Hagwell might as well hand over his stones in a tupperware bowl.

The only thing the Dir. of Officiating should be tasked with doing - as it relates to the tourney location - is getting his zebras to the rink on time...no matter if the location is in R.I., Las Vegas, or the moon.
 
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