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RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020 Part II: Moving on with 2020 Vision!

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Ralph Baer said:
True, but usually we only get recognition in the first few weeks before the Ivies start.
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True, and this year we have gotten so much more in honors than in a long time. This is part of the reason that many of us are feeling so upbeat. The seniors have performed and led, the freshmen defensive corps is taking shape and should only get better. The goal tending situation is perhaps the envy of most of college hockey. not only is Savory showing how a top notch goalie performs, he is getting hot at the right time. And we should not forget, he has 2 very capable back ups. Hopefully he can be in net for the remaining games (perhaps as many as 8+) but we have experienced back ups if needed.

Now back to reality - Friday night can go a long way towards easing the path in the playoffs. Go Red!!!!
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I wonder if the RPI fans who criticized Dave’s hiring are regretting that.</p>— Ken Schott #ThePartingSchottsPodcast (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1232157638760259586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Ralph Baer said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I wonder if the RPI fans who criticized Dave’s hiring are regretting that.</p>— Ken Schott #ThePartingSchottsPodcast (@slapschotts) <a href="https://twitter.com/slapschotts/status/1232157638760259586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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I said it before and I’ll say it again. Yes, Smith May have had a similar record than Seth, but Dave built the Canisius program from the ground up. To recruit to a place with no built in fan base, rink or resources is tough at any place you go. In just three years RPI is similar to Canisius in the three years prior to Smith’s departure, in an stronger league. Also, I don’t think people were criticizing Smith the man, but the process and the ignored input.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NCAA Men's Hockey ⭐️⭐️⭐️ of the Week!<br>1 - Roman Ahcan, <a href="https://twitter.com/BadgerMHockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BadgerMHockey</a> <br>2 - Benjamin Freeman, <a href="https://twitter.com/UConnMHOC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UConnMHOC</a> <br>3 - Todd Burgess, <a href="https://twitter.com/RPI_Hockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RPI_Hockey</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ncaahockey?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ncaahockey</a> <a href="https://t.co/crvGYnEOsq">pic.twitter.com/crvGYnEOsq</a></p>— NCAA Ice Hockey (@NCAAIceHockey) <a href="https://twitter.com/NCAAIceHockey/status/1232309631332077570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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jericho said:
I said it before and I’ll say it again. Yes, Smith May have had a similar record than Seth, but Dave built the Canisius program from the ground up. To recruit to a place with no built in fan base, rink or resources is tough at any place you go. In just three years RPI is similar to Canisius in the three years prior to Smith’s departure, in an stronger league. Also, I don’t think people were criticizing Smith the man, but the process and the ignored input.
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That last statement also crossed my mind. We knew nothing about Smith before he was hired. It just was that RPI ignored input from hockey alums, etc.
 
Ralph Baer said:
That last statement also crossed my mind. We knew nothing about Smith before he was hired. It just was that RPI ignored input from hockey alums, etc.
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After listening to him on the podcast, you can see why he was hired. Very little BS, and seems like a genuine good guy who kids will play for. Time wi continue to tell.
 
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It's probably time to ask for suggestions for a title to Part III. I certainly hope that we will need one.
 
ServinisScores said:
After listening to him on the podcast, you can see why he was hired. Very little BS, and seems like a genuine good guy who kids will play for. Time wi continue to tell.
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Listening to the postgame on Saturday, he and the players didn’t sound overly excited about the weekend. That’s not to say they were disappointed, but it gave me the impression they had moved on. I feel the culture is being established that winning shouldn’t be overly celebrated, and you need to keep looking forward and get better. I feel that’s very important for being a successful program in the long term.
 
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jericho said:
I said it before and I’ll say it again. Yes, Smith May have had a similar record than Seth, but Dave built the Canisius program from the ground up. To recruit to a place with no built in fan base, rink or resources is tough at any place you go. In just three years RPI is similar to Canisius in the three years prior to Smith’s departure, in an stronger league. Also, I don’t think people were criticizing Smith the man, but the process and the ignored input.
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I will admit to being skeptical of Smith's hire. The only thing I knew about his last years at Canisius was that he had a top notch goalie. I wondered if that was why the program improved so much during that time.
Well, he has a top notch goalie again. But following him closely for the last three years, you can see the effect he has on the rest of the team. He has won me over.
No matter what happens the rest of this year, we are positioned to make improvements over the next few years.
Good job Dave.

Lets go red!!!!!!!!!!
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
I will admit to being skeptical of Smith's hire. The only thing I knew about his last years at Canisius was that he had a top notch goalie. I wondered if that was why the program improved so much during that time.
Well, he has a top notch goalie again. But following him closely for the last three years, you can see the effect he has on the rest of the team. He has won me over.
No matter what happens the rest of this year, we are positioned to make improvements over the next few years.
Good job Dave.

Lets go red!!!!!!!!!!
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I am with with you on this. Coach Smith is going to have two more things to think about as time goes on and if we can become more successful. The good thing will be deciding about some top tier recruits who may become more interested in Troy Ny. The bad thing will be starting to deal with how to keep them at RPI as many of these boys will get considerable NHL interest.I think both of these issues will be nice to see and am gaining more respect for how this coach handles everything that comes up.
 
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DrDemento said:
I am with with you on this. Coach Smith is going to have two more things to think about as time goes on and if we can become more successful. The good thing will be deciding about some top tier recruits who may become more interested in Troy Ny. The bad thing will be starting to deal with how to keep them at RPI as many of these boys will get considerable NHL interest.I think both of these issues will be nice to see and am gaining more respect for how this coach handles everything that comes up.
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I wonder how he is dealing with Shirley.
 
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jericho said:
I said it before and I’ll say it again. Yes, Smith May have had a similar record than Seth, but Dave built the Canisius program from the ground up. To recruit to a place with no built in fan base, rink or resources is tough at any place you go. In just three years RPI is similar to Canisius in the three years prior to Smith’s departure, in an stronger league. Also, I don’t think people were criticizing Smith the man, but the process and the ignored input.
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This is spot on. I've long said that a major part of the criticism surrounding Smith actually had nothing to do with him and that it was unfair to put it on him, but that it naturally meant he had perhaps a shorter leash than most other coaches would have in that position - and that was the administration's fault.

The last two years and the difficulty that a lot of us had in seeing what the road forward looked like was frustrating as well and I was coming into this season needing to see progress being made - and it's clear now that there is some progress being made.

But this tweet from Ken is really insulting, especially after watching the pile-on that frequently happened with Appert early on even when it was more transparent the kind of changes he was trying to bring about. I don't think any criticism that has been leveled has been overly untoward.

And while the team is certainly improving, at least part of the finish this year is being driven by large chunks of the league getting much worse - pushing an improving team up the table. That's not terrible, of course, but it's worth noting that on a macro level, we're still nowhere near the top of the league or nationally competitive. So while I'm very satisfied with the progress that's being made so far, next year is going to be a lot more pressure on the program to continue to move forward.
 
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DrDemento said:
That may well be the biggest problem. The program has been in a virtual free fall during the time of her reign.
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I've reached a point where any and all problems that the program has is exclusively on the administration.
 
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savory was a great find for smith similar to his Canisius goalie.
the transfers were good finds it seems and apperts seniors have been on fire this year. I enjoy the improvement and wins immensely
 
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