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RPI Hockey 2015 - 2016:: Six Flags Over the HFH

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turk181 said:
Killing time here. Doc, I saw the 1st period of the AA vs Delbarton game yesterday (AA won 4-1). Not enough time to make any observations. I did watch the 2 Farinacci bros. though. The older (a ’97) is a big boy 6’3” 205 (F) & the younger might be someone to keep an eye on. John, also a F is a Fr. (’01) with good size @ 5’11” 180. Listed sizes looked to be legit BTW.
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Turk: I saw them both play twice so far. The older boy we stood next to and you are right, he is big (and i think bigger than the listed size). The younger boy shows some flashes of having some real skills. If you look back over the years, Delbarton just keeps restocking and some years they will have 4 or 5 that end up playing division I hockey. The teams with DM and Phinney and Baiocco were just loaded. Princeton has 2 in their line up and we have one and Yale has a couple and Miami has one. When you have one high school team putting that many into NCAA Division I, you really should be scouting them and looking for more. Jen and i have not been to as many games the past 2 years as we used to but it certainly seems that there are a lot more representatives of schools other than the Ivies showing up. Hopefully we will start to get back and attend more games later this year and more likely next year.
 
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You could also add Tommy Muratore, now at Holy Cross, who was the Capt. of that Team. & the NJ POY.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
He's learned not to criticize the refs. :)
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To be fair, you can't criticize them on the goal waive-offs, since after looking at the replays, they were absolutely the correct calls. That doesn't excuse the rest of the game, where I was worried things may get out of hand.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
He's learned not to criticize the refs. :)
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Ralph, I saw my first live hockey game in 1957 at the old garden, and my first college game in 1985 at West Point. In all that time, every coach and every player asked about officiating has made the exact same comment. They want the officials to be consistent. And that is what the guys last night were. I would have thought that they would call one against Colgate when Grant was dumped at center ice. I thought that something should have been called when Ohrvall was dumped after the whistle late in the game. But I also thought that Wilson got away with murder at one point early in the game. The only noncall I had a problem with, was an interference non call on a two on one break that we had. It was the only call that might have affected a scoring play.
Over all, the referees game no advantage to either team.
 
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RPI fan 4 life said:
It was also encouraging that Seth said that Bourbonnais' injury was going to keep him out "a couple of weeks".
What I heard about the injury was that it was a sprained MCL, not a torn one as the Red Army reported last night. But I leave the prognosis to the good doctor...
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Of course we have no idea who offered the diagnosis(Orthopedist, General team doctor, chiropractor, trainer, someone walking by the room). A sprain can be of virtually any severity and there are times that a sprain can be worse than a tear or a break (ankles in particular). We also do not know if the diagnosis was made just from physical examination or from some sort of in depth study (MRI, etc). So it is impossible to venture any sort of time prognosis. But is SA mentions it as a couple (2) weeks, then we might get the impression this is a relatively minor injury which is not in the category of season ending. It all depends on how fast Riley feels well enough to start exercising the knee and regaining or retaining flexibility and strength. We have to remember, this is a young healthy physically fit fellow. This same injury for him at this age could be fine in 2 weeks but if it happened to me, an old out of shape social security recipient, it could be months or longer to heal completely (if ever).
BTW, i think we gave a very good account of ourselves last night considering we were without our best goal scoring forward, a top defenseman, and have been without our top freshman scorer almost all season.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Ralph, I saw my first live hockey game in 1957 at the old garden, and my first college game in 1985 at West Point. In all that time, every coach and every player asked about officiating has made the exact same comment. They want the officials to be consistent. And that is what the guys last night were. I would have thought that they would call one against Colgate when Grant was dumped at center ice. I thought that something should have been called when Ohrvall was dumped after the whistle late in the game. But I also thought that Wilson got away with murder at one point early in the game. The only noncall I had a problem with, was an interference non call on a two on one break that we had. It was the only call that might have affected a scoring play.
Over all, the referees game no advantage to either team.
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Very fair statement. They were consistent (bad in all directions). But total it up this way - we had two goals called back to one for Colgate. We had zero power plays to one for Colgate. And when the replay is available, count the times Kazzie got hit (although often just a tap) versus how often the Colgate goalie got touched. Overall though i absolutely agree with you. They were horrible but they spread the bad calls out to both teams almost equally.
 
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DrDemento said:
Very fair statement. They were consistent (bad in all directions). But total it up this way - we had two goals called back to one for Colgate. We had zero power plays to one for Colgate. And when the replay is available, count the times Kazzie got hit (although often just a tap) versus how often the Colgate goalie got touched. Overall though i absolutely agree with you. They were horrible but they spread the bad calls out to both teams almost equally.
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Doc, we are in total agreement when it comes to our goalies getting hit. Kazzy took a couple of shots, and one was more than just a tap. This has been happening for years. We also don't get the benefit of quick whistles. Watch how long our goalies have to hold the puck before the refs blow it dead. Its outrageous.
 
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Speaking of ECAC refs, did you see feature on CHN about Mike Mullen? His brother, Patrick, played at DU from 2005-2009. His first year at DU was Appert's last. Small World.
 
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DrDemento said:
Very fair statement. They were consistent (bad in all directions). But total it up this way - we had two goals called back to one for Colgate. We had zero power plays to one for Colgate. And when the replay is available, count the times Kazzie got hit (although often just a tap) versus how often the Colgate goalie got touched. Overall though i absolutely agree with you. They were horrible but they spread the bad calls out to both teams almost equally.
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Just remember the only things that may be reviewed are goal/no-goal and the difference between a game misconduct and game DQ. As much as we'd like penalties to be reviewed at times, it's presently not allowed in the regular season.
 
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vizoroo said:
Speaking of ECAC refs, did you see feature on CHN about Mike Mullen? His brother, Patrick, played at DU from 2005-2009. His first year at DU was Appert's last. Small World.
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Saw that last week viz. Father was Brian (or was it Joey?) ex-Rangers both. Born & raised in “Hell’s Kitchen”. My Dad was born & raised there also only it was during the Depression when as he used say, “it really was Hell’s Kitchen”. I believe it’s now called Clinton Corners. Yuppies started buying it up in the early 90’s & it’s pretty nice now.....I think.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Just remember the only things that may be reviewed are goal/no-goal and the difference between a game misconduct and game DQ. As much as we'd like penalties to be reviewed at times, it's presently not allowed in the regular season.
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Did not ask anything about reviewing penalties. Simply stated that one should watch the replay and count how often Kazzie got hit versus how many times we hit the other goalie.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Doc, we are in total agreement when it comes to our goalies getting hit. Kazzy took a couple of shots, and one was more than just a tap. This has been happening for years. We also don't get the benefit of quick whistles. Watch how long our goalies have to hold the puck before the refs blow it dead. Its outrageous.
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That one that was not a tap took the goal off both posts. We have all watched lots of ECAC hockey, missing this call happens so often it cannot just be unintentional.
 
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So with the Q taking over the top spot in the polls, RPI has the chance to take out the #1 team country twice in the same season. When is the last time that happened for RPI?
 
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lugnut92 said:
Yet we unfortunately fell from #17 to 18 in the thing that matters. RPI is getting absolutely no help from anyone else in the nation, as WaP's Engineer Cheering Section is batting around .330.
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Agreed, the outside results this week killed us. Also #17 in KRACH. I do not have the skills of a Jim Dahl or a Mr. Hamilton but I did make an attempt anyway to use the CHN calculator to do some what ifs. Just looking at Rensselaer results and making a gross assumption that all other results would more or less cancel out here is what I have concluded:

For Rensselaer to be in an At-Large spot at the end of the regular season I am assuming we can be no worse than 13th in PWR. As the WCHA and AHC are not currently in the top 16 it would be difficult to expect that there would not be at least one upset among the other four conferences meaning that #14-#16 would not qualify for the NCAA field.

In order to get to #13 pairwise Rensselaer would need to go no worse than 8-3-1 (iffy), 9-3-0 would certainly do it.

Realistically if we went 12-0-0 the best we can expect is #6. Probably would need to win the ECACs to get a number one seed.

Anywhere from a 6-6-0 to 8-4-0 finish would leave us between #18 and #15 pairwise.

Since all the remaining games (12) are ECAC except for the Mayor's trophy, 11 results will also affect the ECAC standings. Thus any scenario where we earn at least 6 ECAC wins (6-5-0) would very likely equate to a first round ECAC bye (given historical finishes).

It seems in conclusion that unless we go at least 10-2-0 down the stretch, we will need to win at least one playoff round to qualify for an At-Large bid which means making it to Lake Placid. Likely that would entail having to beat Cornell, Harvard or Yale for that spot unless we finish at least third in the ECAC.

Unless we go on an extended hot streak immediately it seems that it will be another long off-season.
 
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