Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Now there is a statement that we can agree with one hundred percent.
Now there is a statement that we can agree with one hundred percent.
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RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
The problem with too much creativity is that it can be too much to expect of a fairly large crowd. Sure, you and I may know e-to-the-x, wheaties, and so on, but it can be a little difficult to expect that of a large crowd.
Some may say that Cornell is creative, but they aren't creative so much as they are repetitive. Given a little time, I could probably write down about 50% of the chants they do, and the time at which they do them. As much as I razz WaP, they have a point in that the Lynah faithful are robotic.
As for character and class, my expectations in terms of sports are incredibly low, especially considering that a lack thereof gets you on ESPN.
The problem with too much creativity is that it can be too much to expect of a fairly large crowd. Sure, you and I may know e-to-the-x, wheaties, and so on, but it can be a little difficult to expect that of a large crowd.
Some may say that Cornell is creative, but they aren't creative so much as they are repetitive. Given a little time, I could probably write down about 50% of the chants they do, and the time at which they do them. As much as I razz WaP, they have a point in that the Lynah faithful are robotic.
As for character and class, my expectations in terms of sports are incredibly low, especially considering that a lack thereof gets you on ESPN.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
That was the creativity part. What about character and class? IMO those are more important.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Read the last paragraph.
People remember athletes for their achievements, and sometimes antics. Take Alex Ovechkin for example. Sure, he's a good hockey player. But some know him for bringing the "touchdown dance" to hockey, and sports channels have picked up on that. Now, consider someone like Barry Sanders. Ever notice what he did after getting a touchdown? The Back or Field Judge received the ball, and the game went on. Now, let's consider RPI/Union at the TUC last year. People don't talk about RPI winning. They talk about the hissy-fit fight thrown after the game.
The point is that character and class don't happen very often because a lack of it sells. Why show character and class when you aren't going to get much out of it? People go for the "sucks" chants because it gives them a temporary resolve of positive emotion via the Law of Disjunctive Inference. They could care less how other "tribes" view them, so long as they believe that their "tribe" is better than another.
Read the last paragraph.
People remember athletes for their achievements, and sometimes antics. Take Alex Ovechkin for example. Sure, he's a good hockey player. But some know him for bringing the "touchdown dance" to hockey, and sports channels have picked up on that. Now, consider someone like Barry Sanders. Ever notice what he did after getting a touchdown? The Back or Field Judge received the ball, and the game went on. Now, let's consider RPI/Union at the TUC last year. People don't talk about RPI winning. They talk about the hissy-fit fight thrown after the game.
The point is that character and class don't happen very often because a lack of it sells. Why show character and class when you aren't going to get much out of it? People go for the "sucks" chants because it gives them a temporary resolve of positive emotion via the Law of Disjunctive Inference. They could care less how other "tribes" view them, so long as they believe that their "tribe" is better than another.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
I must have skipped that and gone directly to your sig file.
Read the last paragraph.
People remember athletes for their achievements, and sometimes antics. Take Alex Ovechkin for example. Sure, he's a good hockey player. But some know him for bringing the "touchdown dance" to hockey, and sports channels have picked up on that. Now, consider someone like Barry Sanders. Ever notice what he did after getting a touchdown? The Back or Field Judge received the ball, and the game went on. Now, let's consider RPI/Union at the TUC last year. People don't talk about RPI winning. They talk about the hissy-fit fight thrown after the game.
The point is that character and class don't happen very often because a lack of it sells. Why show character and class when you aren't going to get much out of it? People go for the "sucks" chants because it gives them a temporary resolve of positive emotion via the Law of Disjunctive Inference. They could care less how other "tribes" view them, so long as they believe that their "tribe" is better than another.
I must have skipped that and gone directly to your sig file.
rvd5star69
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Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Can anyone post our playoff results since OGC took over ?
Can anyone post our playoff results since OGC took over ?
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Flaggy, Dutchman or Hoky?
Oh, and Flaggy, because Ralph quoted you, I saw your post. People remember RPI winning, the only people that want o bring up the brouhaha at the end are bandwagon Union "fans." BTW, where'd they all go?
Flaggy, Dutchman or Hoky?
Oh, and Flaggy, because Ralph quoted you, I saw your post. People remember RPI winning, the only people that want o bring up the brouhaha at the end are bandwagon Union "fans." BTW, where'd they all go?
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
What's this have to do with anything? There was already a lengthy debate on this subject. Go back and read it.
What's this have to do with anything? There was already a lengthy debate on this subject. Go back and read it.
FlagDUDE08
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Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Assuming you mean Appert...
06-07 - swept at Colgate (0-2)
07-08 - swept at Yale, both games went to OT (3OT in the first one, one in the second) (0-4)
08-09 - sweep at Dartmouth, OT in Game 1; lost at Cornell in 3 (3-6)
09-10 - lost to Brown in 3 (4-8)
10-11 - lost to Colgate in 3, 2OT in Game 3 (5-10)
11-12 - won at CCT in 3, 3OT in Game 2; swept at Union (7-13)
12-13 - lost to Brown in 3 (8-15)
13-14 - lost to Dartmouth in 3 (9-17)
9-17 overall, OT record is 1-4 (Dartmouth being the only one we won in OT).
And unlike someone that's making FlagDUDETTE jealous about obsession over me, I have to think that rvd has a point to make.
Assuming you mean Appert...
06-07 - swept at Colgate (0-2)
07-08 - swept at Yale, both games went to OT (3OT in the first one, one in the second) (0-4)
08-09 - sweep at Dartmouth, OT in Game 1; lost at Cornell in 3 (3-6)
09-10 - lost to Brown in 3 (4-8)
10-11 - lost to Colgate in 3, 2OT in Game 3 (5-10)
11-12 - won at CCT in 3, 3OT in Game 2; swept at Union (7-13)
12-13 - lost to Brown in 3 (8-15)
13-14 - lost to Dartmouth in 3 (9-17)
9-17 overall, OT record is 1-4 (Dartmouth being the only one we won in OT).
And unlike someone that's making FlagDUDETTE jealous about obsession over me, I have to think that rvd has a point to make.
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
With two months left in the regular season, this seems like an odd time to be asking about playoff results over the past eight seasons.
Those playoff results are what they are and there's absolutely nothing anyone can do over the next couple of months to change them.
All we can do is hope that this year's team will have some more positive results in the playoffs. And if we focus on how this year's team will do in the playoffs, the first two questions to be answered are (1) whom will RPI be playing and (2) where will they be playing them?
The answers to those two questions depend on what happens during league games over the next two months, not on what happened in the playoffs over the last eight years.
So, I asked myself, what has RPI done in ECAC league games during January and February over the past eight years?
And I actually got ambitious enough to look up the answer.
Over the last eight years, RPI is 49-55-15 in ECAC league games during January and February. That includes a dismal 12-30-4 in the first three of those years.
If we look at the last five years, the results are more positive. RPI is 37-25-11. The only year in which they had a below-.500 record in January and February was last year, when they were 5-6-2.
RPI is currently 4-5-0 in league play. If all they do over the next two months is match the worst record they've had over the past five years, they'll end the season 9-11-2 for 20 points, which I would guess should be good enough for home ice in the first round. For right now, I'll say that's what they ought to shoot for.
And who knows - if all our wounded warriors finally get healthy and Kazzy catches fire, RPI might do a whole lot better than 5-6-2 over the remaining 13 league games.
With two months left in the regular season, this seems like an odd time to be asking about playoff results over the past eight seasons.
Those playoff results are what they are and there's absolutely nothing anyone can do over the next couple of months to change them.
All we can do is hope that this year's team will have some more positive results in the playoffs. And if we focus on how this year's team will do in the playoffs, the first two questions to be answered are (1) whom will RPI be playing and (2) where will they be playing them?
The answers to those two questions depend on what happens during league games over the next two months, not on what happened in the playoffs over the last eight years.
So, I asked myself, what has RPI done in ECAC league games during January and February over the past eight years?
And I actually got ambitious enough to look up the answer.
Over the last eight years, RPI is 49-55-15 in ECAC league games during January and February. That includes a dismal 12-30-4 in the first three of those years.
If we look at the last five years, the results are more positive. RPI is 37-25-11. The only year in which they had a below-.500 record in January and February was last year, when they were 5-6-2.
RPI is currently 4-5-0 in league play. If all they do over the next two months is match the worst record they've had over the past five years, they'll end the season 9-11-2 for 20 points, which I would guess should be good enough for home ice in the first round. For right now, I'll say that's what they ought to shoot for.
And who knows - if all our wounded warriors finally get healthy and Kazzy catches fire, RPI might do a whole lot better than 5-6-2 over the remaining 13 league games.
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Waite: That's a lot of ifs. But i agree with just about all of that. Add one more-if we can get back the offensive lines we had early in the season-which we need badly since offensive depth and scoring is notably absent-this team will give anybody big trouble. They have shown for 20 minutes at a time they can be a very good team(and sometimes for 5 minutes, an absolutely abysmal team). The big ifs-if they can be that 20 minute team for entire games and if Kasdorf can be the Kazzie of two years ago, then our record up to now will not mean a rat's behind. If not, well, we might as well start thinking about next season. Just an old time fan's opinion, but the run has to start and in reality, only the league games will count for anything.
Waite: That's a lot of ifs. But i agree with just about all of that. Add one more-if we can get back the offensive lines we had early in the season-which we need badly since offensive depth and scoring is notably absent-this team will give anybody big trouble. They have shown for 20 minutes at a time they can be a very good team(and sometimes for 5 minutes, an absolutely abysmal team). The big ifs-if they can be that 20 minute team for entire games and if Kasdorf can be the Kazzie of two years ago, then our record up to now will not mean a rat's behind. If not, well, we might as well start thinking about next season. Just an old time fan's opinion, but the run has to start and in reality, only the league games will count for anything.
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
It's ok Ralph. I forgive you in your old age.
It's ok Ralph. I forgive you in your old age.
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
While we're talking about 'commodities,' forgiveness is always appreciated. (Been waiting for that one. ) Happy New Year, everyone!
While we're talking about 'commodities,' forgiveness is always appreciated. (Been waiting for that one.
) Happy New Year, everyone!
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Ed Weaver's article http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20150101/rpi-still-shorthanded-vs-miami
Ed Weaver's article http://www.troyrecord.com/sports/20150101/rpi-still-shorthanded-vs-miami
Ralph Baer
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Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
DrD, Waite21, and anyone else from the 1960's,
FWIW an RPI jersey from our era has shown up at http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/. (Click on Other Universities and then ECAC.) Number 16 pictured was supposedly the one worn by Pete Zoretich, before my time, and Dave Littlefield my first two years. It is certainly the style worn then and for a while later.
The owner of the store posts on MTU threads.
DrD, Waite21, and anyone else from the 1960's,
FWIW an RPI jersey from our era has shown up at http://www.johnsonsjerseys.net/. (Click on Other Universities and then ECAC.) Number 16 pictured was supposedly the one worn by Pete Zoretich, before my time, and Dave Littlefield my first two years. It is certainly the style worn then and for a while later.
The owner of the store posts on MTU threads.
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Thanks RB-I always felt those uniforms looked like big red pajamas. Brings back memories going through the list of RPI uniforms shown.
Thanks RB-I always felt those uniforms looked like big red pajamas. Brings back memories going through the list of RPI uniforms shown.
ServinisScores
I'm an Implant Engineer
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
LOL, I'll be d*mned, the iphone Autocorrect is sneaky. Not female Ralph.
I didn't realize that you are female.
LOL, I'll be d*mned, the iphone Autocorrect is sneaky. Not female Ralph.
ServinisScores
I'm an Implant Engineer
Re: RPI Hockey 2014-2015: Dedicated to Rich Curadi
Back in those days, I suppose, they just stuffed the uniforms in a trunk at the end of a season, pulled them out at the start of next season, and if the guy who had worn a number the previous year had graduated, they gave it to somebody else.
I can't honestly say I remember Dave Littlefield, though I see he was fourth in scoring (with 12 points!) on the never-to-be-forgotten 1965-66 team.
Maybe the Tute broke down and got new uniforms after that season. The guy who wore # 16 in 1966-67 was just a tad more of an offensive threat than Littlefield had been.
Back in those days, I suppose, they just stuffed the uniforms in a trunk at the end of a season, pulled them out at the start of next season, and if the guy who had worn a number the previous year had graduated, they gave it to somebody else.
I can't honestly say I remember Dave Littlefield, though I see he was fourth in scoring (with 12 points!) on the never-to-be-forgotten 1965-66 team.
Maybe the Tute broke down and got new uniforms after that season. The guy who wore # 16 in 1966-67 was just a tad more of an offensive threat than Littlefield had been.
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