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RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part IV: Not A Finished Product Yet

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FreshFish said:
I was told today by a Pep Band alumna that the Whiteout is usually when Cornell comes to Troy, because generally both teams wear red, and so the white out makes it clear who the crowd is supporting when they yell "Go White" instead of the typical "Go Red".

I'd be confident that the first clause of that compound sentence is accurate, even if the remainder is misunderstood lore. Last year's Whiteout was probably the Cornell game. This year, we hosted Cornell during winter break, and there was speculation that this was the reason that they moved Whiteout to a weekend during which school would be in session so that the students could attend the game.
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Next year, we open up the home ECAC schedule with Cornell, so that will be Black Friday and not the Whiteout. At least we'll be able to chant "Go Black" instead of the typical "Go Red" or "Go White".
 
LTsatch said:
For instance, I stay on the ground floor at hotels, and always try to sit near an exit in an assembly setting especially nightclubs.
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Do you find it harder to get lap dances sitting by the exit? I usually do because it tends to be colder for the girls therefore they don't like it.
 
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FreshFish said:
I was told today by a Pep Band alumna that the Whiteout is usually when Cornell comes to Troy, because generally both teams wear red, and so the white out makes it clear who the crowd is supporting when they yell "Go White" instead of the typical "Go Red".

I'd be confident that the first clause of that compound sentence is accurate, even if the remainder is misunderstood lore. Last year's Whiteout was probably the Cornell game. This year, we hosted Cornell during winter break, and there was speculation that this was the reason that they moved Whiteout to a weekend during which school would be in session so that the students could attend the game.
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Last year the Whiteout game was theoretically Princeton, which was also Senior Night. It was originally listed as Whiteout but halfway through the season all the mentions of it as Whiteout were removed and it wasn't advertised as such. The Cornell game last year was definitely not Whiteout because it was the night before Freakout.
 
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GRussinko said:
It is likely that the project was treated as a level 2 alteration per the NYS building code as opposed to a level 3 (which kicks in when the renovation impacts more than 50% of the building). Level 2 is much more lax on what needs to be brought up to current standards than 3. I believe the newly constructed areas (suites, offices, etc where section 1 used to be) were provided with sprinkler protection when they were built a couple years ago, which is consistent with a level 2 alteration.

They have done a lot of work in the building in phases, likely under separate permits, and as such never triggered the requirements for bringing the whole fire protection system up to code.

From Section 20, in addition to the main lobby, there are two more sets of double doors that lead outside which are located directly below where you were sitting (near the bathrooms) as well as another exit through the tunnel under Section 17. All told there are 9-10 exits to the outside spread around the perimeter of the rink.

While I'm sure it would still be a nightmare in an emergency, it's certainly no match for Messa which forces hundreds of people at a time to climb down bleachers then fight their way down a single 4' wide stairwell at each end of the rink to get back to ground level. What I question at HFH is whether the voice evacuation system would actually be intelligible in an emergency (based on what we hear from the PA system) and whether there are actually any working emergency lights (since the ones mounted in the rafters over the stands look to be about 25 years old).
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Mr Russinko, Thank you for your informative response. I have never been to Messa so I cannot comment. I saw the exit doors beneath me, what I was more concerned about was the three sections funneling down to that portal, there were also five or six folks sitting on the steps as well. Pie meal alterations are always going to be tough to police code wise. I. Did notice what looked to be newer strobes up high in the arena, which may help to alert the public. Any significant fire under or in the bleachers, especially near the front of that building will be a nightmare. The Institute got away with a lot just by claiming to be an existing structure, but it doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Best regards, Dave Collins
 
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LTsatch said:
Not to rain on the parade that is RPI hockey at the moment, but I mentioned this in the score thread an thought I would expound. As an experienced full time Fire Marshal, I tend to look at buildings in a different light than other folks. For instance, I stay on the ground floor at hotels, and always try to sit near an exit in an assembly setting especially nightclubs. what I noticed about HFH is that it is basically a metal, wood and plastic bleacher and seat system housed within what is basically a large trussed roof warehouse. Having heard that the facility was recently remodeled, I was interested to see the state of the building since my last visit three years ago. My initial observation is that I cannot believe that a building with that capacity and fire load was not fire sprinklered when it was renovated. The seating and egress patterns are also very disturbing. While sitting in the top row of Section 20, I was looking for two easiest ways out of the building and it was basically out the front door or or possibly to the left towards a portal which would be against the tide. We have learned through tragic fire models where everyone gravitates during an emergency, the door they entered through. Just my observations and food for thought for the people that occupy that facility regularly. I guess these are the things you notice when your team is not playing well. good luck the rest of the way and I hope we all win enough games to make the dance, your schedule going forward looks good for RPI.
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Interesting that you would being that up now. What would have happened had there been a fire was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the video of the Harlem Shake from a week ago.
 
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The best thing this past month is not hearing appert say "we were immature, we didn't play rpi way, goaltending wasn't sharp, we got lazy, badmpenalties etc
 
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rvd5star69 said:
The best thing this past month is not hearing appert say "we were immature, we didn't play rpi way, goaltending wasn't sharp, we got lazy, badmpenalties etc
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I think that he did comment about bad penalties.
 
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rvd5star69 said:
The best thing this past month is not hearing appert say "we were immature, we didn't play rpi way, goaltending wasn't sharp, we got lazy, badmpenalties etc
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You know that's how teams lose. You don't want to call any guys out individually as a Coach. You guys are the best. SA puts a run together and you still criticize. The undercurrent was for awhile on the thread was let's get rid of Seth and now you can't give the guy any credit. Who whould you hire, Ben Barr, Nolan Graham. Knock it off.
 
Ralph Baer said:
Ed Weaver article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/...51219ef92e0d7767660869.txt?viewmode=fullstory. "Firmly entrenched in second place" seems a bit of a stretch. :) Also note that Weaver spelled Laliberté with the accent mark. :eek:
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I noticed the same thing that during that rough stretch that seemed more like 3 minutes than 90 seconds the fact was that we did only give up one shot during that time. Good observation by Ed.

Never thought I'd be able to say this again, but it's "magic number time".
To clinch a home ice berth- 2 points
To clinch a first round bye- 6 points
To clinch second place- 8 points (obviously!)
 
AspyDad said:
You know that's how teams lose. You don't want to call any guys out individually as a Coach. You guys are the best. SA puts a run together and you still criticize. The undercurrent was for awhile on the thread was let's get rid of Seth and now you can't give the guy any credit. Who whould you hire, Ben Barr, Nolan Graham. Knock it off.
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Relax it's a great winnimg streak. 70 % kasdorf 10 off 10 def 10 % pp and pk. 0% Seth ........show me a bye and a playoff win and ecac final four appearance
 
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rvd5star69 said:
Relax it's a great winnimg streak. 70 % kasdorf 10 off 10 def 10 % pp and pk. 0% Seth ........show me a bye and a playoff win and ecac final four appearance
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Ralph, how do you put somebody on ignore again?
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Ed Weaver article http://www.troyrecord.com/articles/...51219ef92e0d7767660869.txt?viewmode=fullstory. "Firmly entrenched in second place" seems a bit of a stretch. :) Also note that Weaver spelled Laliberté with the accent mark. :eek:
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Give Jacob props for changing his game from Juniors where he was a scorer. He is a great passer. JL has uncanny knack of putting the puck on the tape of the trailer or cross ice open player. #29 has also changed game on PP by playing down low. He has been playing in the trenches and has paid off big time.
 
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AspyDad said:
You know that's how teams lose. You don't want to call any guys out individually as a Coach. You guys are the best. SA puts a run together and you still criticize. The undercurrent was for awhile on the thread was let's get rid of Seth and now you can't give the guy any credit. Who whould you hire, Ben Barr, Nolan Graham. Knock it off.
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Maybe I'm misinterpreting it, but I didn't take that as a dig at Appert. Wasn't he saying that it was nice to not hear it because it didn't need to be said, not because it wasn't said?
 
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Nevermind, the follow up post clarified it as being quite stupid indeed.
 
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AspyDad said:
Ralph, how do you put somebody on ignore again?
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Click on the user name to the left of any post by the person in question. Pick the View Profile option. The ignore option should be on the list to the left on the profile.
 
rvd5star69 said:
The best thing this past month is not hearing appert say "we were immature, we didn't play rpi way, goaltending wasn't sharp, we got lazy, badmpenalties etc
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Since the team is 8-2 in their last 10 games and 9-3-1 in the last 13, it appears that those of us who have harbored or expressed doubts were premature in leaping off, or contemplating leaping off, the band wagon. Appert said all along that the goal was to be a good team by this time in the season. It was painful at times to watch the PP and the lack of consistency, but it seems that the light went on sometime in December. With the exception of the UNH game - against a very good team on a big sheet - the team has looked very good. Let's hope it is only the beginning. LGR!
 
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