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RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part IV: Not A Finished Product Yet

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Just for old times sake...

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I've always thought that looked like a Mad magazine cover.
 
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Very happy for the team, coaching staff and entire hockey staff. I personally believe that this has been Seth’s best job behind the pine during his tenure at RPI. He kept the team focused when it had every chance of going off the rails this year. I think if you look at his last three years, he’s done a great job. Getting the team into NCAA’s after losing two key pieces. Having a good second half last season after an atrocious first half and getting a playoff win up at Clarkson and then of course this incredible run.
I give the man credit for sticking to his beliefs, working hard every day and doing it the right way.
 
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Very happy for the team, coaching staff and entire hockey staff. I personally believe that this has been Seth’s best job behind the pine during his tenure at RPI. He kept the team focused when it had every chance of going off the rails this year. I think if you look at his last three years, he’s done a great job. Getting the team into NCAA’s after losing two key pieces. Having a good second half last season after an atrocious first half and getting a playoff win up at Clarkson and then of course this incredible run.
I give the man credit for sticking to his beliefs, working hard every day and doing it the right way.

Cannot argue with any of that-but i would prefer to give a whole lot of credit to 27 boys on this RPI hockey roster who are playing their hearts out. Most games I have trouble finding a star of the game-it just seems like everyone is doing something. Every line contributing, every defensive pair shutting down the opposing forwards, and superb goaltending. Coach makes the decisions and the plans-and all the credit in the world to him, but these boys are executing. We have had our share of injuries-and guys step in and step up and fill in and we do not even seem to notice. In the past 8 ECAC league games we have outscored the opponents 30-10.

I, of course, have no clue what happens from here on in this year. But as of right now, we have been provided with a stretch of great hockey, great fun, and the feeling that all is right with the world (and we all know that is not the case). RPI fans have been given a lot to smile about for the first time in a long time. Go Red!!
 
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A view from the crowd last Monday:


No wonder the ice was soft and the nets kept getting dislodged.
 
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A view from the crowd last Monday:


No wonder the ice was soft and the nets kept getting dislodged.

If it took that to guarantee us a win-by having all the delays and the slower ice-I'd schedule a concert like that every week before the home series.:) I know for a fact that Coach Harkness would do whatever it took to gain an advantage.;)
 
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Cannot argue with any of that-but i would prefer to give a whole lot of credit to 27 boys on this RPI hockey roster who are playing their hearts out. Most games I have trouble finding a star of the game-it just seems like everyone is doing something. Every line contributing, every defensive pair shutting down the opposing forwards, and superb goaltending. Coach makes the decisions and the plans-and all the credit in the world to him, but these boys are executing. We have had our share of injuries-and guys step in and step up and fill in and we do not even seem to notice. In the past 8 ECAC league games we have outscored the opponents 30-10.

I, of course, have no clue what happens from here on in this year. But as of right now, we have been provided with a stretch of great hockey, great fun, and the feeling that all is right with the world (and we all know that is not the case). RPI fans have been given a lot to smile about for the first time in a long time. Go Red!!

Well put Doc!
 
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Nice RPI reference by Dave Strader during the Rangers/Caps game on NBC sports, apparently the '85 championship game was the first game he ever called on TV.
 
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Nice RPI reference by Dave Strader during the Rangers/Caps game on NBC sports, apparently the '85 championship game was the first game he ever called on TV.

Saw that-now if only the Rangers can put a few behind this hot goalie and make this weekend even better for me.:) Although I'll take 2 RPI wins as enough to celebrate right now.
 
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In the ECAC finals, UNION knocks of Qinnipiac and faces RPI in the finals. Union lead Quinnipiac by 2 in the third of their second game and RPI Tied Quinnipiac. Will be a great game. Both teams make it into the NCAA. Quinnipac makes it to the financials. Looses in OT to Minnesota
 
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In the ECAC finals, UNION knocks of Qinnipiac and faces RPI in the finals. Union lead Quinnipiac by 2 in the third of their second game and RPI Tied Quinnipiac. Will be a great game. Both teams make it into the NCAA. Quinnipac makes it to the financials. Looses in OT to Minnesota

But then the IRS investigates the financials and wants to tighten them up. See? Spelling can do great things.
 
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We definitely should get a lot more than 1 vote.

BTW, our powerplay is up to 9th. Just think what it would be if we knew how to score on 5-on-3's.

I'll be disappointed if we don't crack the top 20. Right now we are T17 in PWR, 18 in RPI and 16 in Krach, not to mention the hottest win streak in the NCAA. Not trying to get over-pumped here, but after a few years of all of us damping down our expectations in might be nice to enjoy a small spot in the sun.
 
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i doubt that Senior Night would be Whiteout. There is no Whiteout listed on last year's schedule.

I was told today by a Pep Band alumna that the Whiteout is usually when Cornell comes to Troy, because generally both teams wear red, and so the white out makes it clear who the crowd is supporting when they yell "Go White" instead of the typical "Go Red".

I'd be confident that the first clause of that compound sentence is accurate, even if the remainder is misunderstood lore. Last year's Whiteout was probably the Cornell game. This year, we hosted Cornell during winter break, and there was speculation that this was the reason that they moved Whiteout to a weekend during which school would be in session so that the students could attend the game.
 
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Not to rain on the parade that is RPI hockey at the moment, but I mentioned this in the score thread an thought I would expound. As an experienced full time Fire Marshal, I tend to look at buildings in a different light than other folks. For instance, I stay on the ground floor at hotels, and always try to sit near an exit in an assembly setting especially nightclubs. what I noticed about HFH is that it is basically a metal, wood and plastic bleacher and seat system housed within what is basically a large trussed roof warehouse. Having heard that the facility was recently remodeled, I was interested to see the state of the building since my last visit three years ago. My initial observation is that I cannot believe that a building with that capacity and fire load was not fire sprinklered when it was renovated. The seating and egress patterns are also very disturbing. While sitting in the top row of Section 20, I was looking for two easiest ways out of the building and it was basically out the front door or or possibly to the left towards a portal which would be against the tide. We have learned through tragic fire models where everyone gravitates during an emergency, the door they entered through. Just my observations and food for thought for the people that occupy that facility regularly. I guess these are the things you notice when your team is not playing well. good luck the rest of the way and I hope we all win enough games to make the dance, your schedule going forward looks good for RPI.
 
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It was fun this morning to go to the ECAC website and see "Rensselaer" in second place. No, I'm not looking ahead nor anticipating anything, I'm merely savoring the present moment as it stands in and of itself.


I'd been away a few days and it was interesting to scroll through several pages of discussion about whether it was better to learn from mistakes or to focus on the future. Reminded me of my parents once, in which my mother wanted to paint the dining room white while my father wanted to paint the living room yellow! :)

When you are on the ice you certainly have to focus exclusively and intently on what is right in front of you, and during those portions of practice you sustain that same laser-like focus on the here and now as well. At this time of the year the skills required are as much or more mental discipline as they are physical and interpersonal (every team i've been on, players had little signals to each other on when to run a play during the flow of action; in volleyball I might say something to the setter, in soccer my teammate might use one of three or four pre-arranged hand signals, etc.). No one can dispute that.

One also must consider that a portion of practice is devoted to strategy too (strategy = big picture, tactics = nitty-gritty). when you review strategy, then you have to look at behaviors and situations in which players did well, so that they can observe and discuss to learn how to do more of it. You also look at behaviors and situations in which you did poorly, so that you can avoid it. If a blown play here and there costs two or three points, and those two or three points leave us at 18th in Pairwise at the end of the year instead of 15th, then that definitely should be noted and emphasized, the better to intensify the desire to focus on the here and now going forward. No one can dispute that either. While it is old-fashioned to say so, one way to use pain in a healthy way is to learn from it and avoid behaving in a way that results in pain in the future. Some New Age types might dispute this, and that's fine, go ahead. We can agree to disagree.
 
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Sorry for multiple posts, was able to follow the games while away.

I get the impression that there is presently some excellent symbiosis underway between the Coach, his staff, and his players. Some of what I'm about to say is speculation which may be wrong or unfounded, some of it comes from hearing second-hand observations from people who were there.

Anyway, this being Coach's first time as a head coach, he's still learning and growing in that position. Maybe he takes a stand toward one year's team that works really well with the blend of players and chemistry they have, but then the same stand a year later doesn't quite have the same results. Being a thoughtful and responsible person, he adjusts. Meanwhile he also has a relatively young team compared to his others now at hand. They were all recruited and assembled by him and have an understandable urge to do well under his system, and at the same time he is maturing and developing insights into how to blend his players' personalities together into something we call a "team," something that takes on a life of its own that is recognizable even if you don't know the individual players.

An extreme example might be Buddy Ryan's "46 Defense" with the Super Bowl Shuffle Bears. If you just played tape with the uniforms obscured, people would still know who they are. More obscure for US people would be Arsenal's "invincibles" of 2003 - 2004, a perfect 38-game season without a defeat.

Anyway, I get the impression that Coach is learning from his players and players are learning from Coach in complementary ways at the same time. What we see this year is the result of something that has been bubbling under the surface for awhile looking for a way to find itself.

The one thing that scares me is that in order to keep it working you cannot think about what the results might be because as soon as you that you've become distracted. The saying is, when art critics get together, they discuss art theory, while when artists get together, they discuss paint brushes and how to mix different colors.

I'm hoping we keep the same discipline and focus and reliance on interplayer coordination supplemented with excellent individual skills through the rest of the year. The hardest test is playing steadily at your best every moment no matter what the scoreboard shows. You don't get excited by a lead, you don't get anxious if you are behind. You merely play.
 
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Not to rain on the parade that is RPI hockey at the moment, but I mentioned this in the score thread an thought I would expound. As an experienced full time Fire Marshal, I tend to look at buildings in a different light than other folks. For instance, I stay on the ground floor at hotels, and always try to sit near an exit in an assembly setting especially nightclubs. what I noticed about HFH is that it is basically a metal, wood and plastic bleacher and seat system housed within what is basically a large trussed roof warehouse. Having heard that the facility was recently remodeled, I was interested to see the state of the building since my last visit three years ago. My initial observation is that I cannot believe that a building with that capacity and fire load was not fire sprinklered when it was renovated. The seating and egress patterns are also very disturbing. While sitting in the top row of Section 20, I was looking for two easiest ways out of the building and it was basically out the front door or or possibly to the left towards a portal which would be against the tide. We have learned through tragic fire models where everyone gravitates during an emergency, the door they entered through. Just my observations and food for thought for the people that occupy that facility regularly. I guess these are the things you notice when your team is not playing well. good luck the rest of the way and I hope we all win enough games to make the dance, your schedule going forward looks good for RPI.

It is likely that the project was treated as a level 2 alteration per the NYS building code as opposed to a level 3 (which kicks in when the renovation impacts more than 50% of the building). Level 2 is much more lax on what needs to be brought up to current standards than 3. I believe the newly constructed areas (suites, offices, etc where section 1 used to be) were provided with sprinkler protection when they were built a couple years ago, which is consistent with a level 2 alteration.

They have done a lot of work in the building in phases, likely under separate permits, and as such never triggered the requirements for bringing the whole fire protection system up to code.

From Section 20, in addition to the main lobby, there are two more sets of double doors that lead outside which are located directly below where you were sitting (near the bathrooms) as well as another exit through the tunnel under Section 17. All told there are 9-10 exits to the outside spread around the perimeter of the rink.

While I'm sure it would still be a nightmare in an emergency, it's certainly no match for Messa which forces hundreds of people at a time to climb down bleachers then fight their way down a single 4' wide stairwell at each end of the rink to get back to ground level. What I question at HFH is whether the voice evacuation system would actually be intelligible in an emergency (based on what we hear from the PA system) and whether there are actually any working emergency lights (since the ones mounted in the rafters over the stands look to be about 25 years old).
 
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