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RPI Hockey 2012-2013 Part II: You Better Starting Posting the Engineer Way

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Stay@homeDad said:
My take on the weekend. We played better these 2 nights then in the past. Love Kasdorf in goal. Sorry to Merriam and Diebold but think this kid is the real deal. Should he have stopped the 1 goal to night? Yes, if he actually saw it. He may have been screened like last nights 1st goal. On the break away one could think he should have made the save but I am sure he was nervous with the game being on the line and not expecting his teammates to put him in that position when on a 5-3 PP. He made one hell of a pad save just before Zalewski's goal that I though was a game changer. The shorty I thought that was pretty much one of our only down points all weekend. Like someone else said you could see it coming from a mile a way or something like that. I must admit I am getting sick of the Nick Bailen show as I will call it. Is this what Seth means by Engineer hockey? Can anyone else on the team take a shot in important situations? Guy has one of, if not the best, slap shot on the team, why are we not setting him up on the point to take it and if it does not go in be in front to try and score on the rebound if there is one? I have heard he might have been clocked at over 100/mph so why not use that to our advantage? Hope we play like this next weekend and if so we can possibly see 4pts from our efforts which would be nice.

I am sure Babo might get mad at me for this one and some others but if you watched the game last night then I would consider it public knowledge, I really hope #14 is not our long for us. I thought his play has been very good and will be missed if he is. Also hope some of the others I saw this weekend get banged up recover this week quickly though they did not miss games we all know they are sore while playing. Again if you actually watched or listened to these games then as far as I am concerned it is public knowledge who I am speaking about but please take note besides #14 I have not named specifics if you choose to scold me.

Final note, glad to hear Troy Boy is doing well and our thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family!! Hope they do not mind me mentioning this on here.
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I think some of "The Nick Bailen Show" may be team-induced. Have you noticed that, during the power play, he always takes the "shot", whether on or off target? If he were on the ice for special teams, I'd almost take my chances with a 4-on-3 zone and put a mark on Bailen. Once they try to pass it, quick turnover and breakaway. The video that RPI Athletics posts doesn't show the errant pass that led to a turnover, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were a similar situation.

Perhaps at this point, we should just do as Appert suggested when our power play had a low point in 09-10 and we should just keep rolling lines on the PP, not even playing special teams. None of this 4 forward or 5 forward stuff that just leads to shorties (in conference play we have 3 SHGA).
 
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FD.......looks like the women gets the first win, however, the men got the first point!
 
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Red Cloud said:
The officiating was terrible in the first two periods, but the third period was slightly better. That made things even more annoying - we fought through stupidity in the first 40 minutes and were still tied, and then that element is removed and suddenly we're busy shooting ourselves in the foot.

The officiating is always terrible, that is a given. But this time they gave us the advantage and we did not know what to do with it.



Frequently I am frustrated with the fans who shout "SHOOT! SHOOT!" incessantly during the power play, because most of the time they're yelling it, it's during a point where a shot would be foolish, but over the long-haul they have a very salient point. Only five shots on eight power plays, including a 5x3 for two minutes? It's not like Quinnipiac were blocking shots left and right, either.

I too get frustrated with that, but what I get more frustrated with is shots missing the net and nobody in front of the goalie. During the 5 on 3, Bailen missed the net twice (maybe three times) and at no time was there someone screening the goalie.


Gird your loins.
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I don't know how. :o;)
 
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Did the sun come up this morning in Troy?
 
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The same people that yell "shoot, shoot" during every power play are the ones who will still complain when the team does shoot and it gets blocked or goes wide. Then when the team does score a PPG they will still find something to nitpick about.
 
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Good teams find ways to win games. Q Pac is a good team. I was hoping for a letdown after beating up Union. The Engineers played well except man up-man down.

Scoring when you are two men down! I can't recall ever witnessing that live. Reminds me of what a TWC announcer said a couple years ago, when reminded of RPI's dismal powerplay, "maybe they can refuse the penalty"

On power plays you have to find a shooting lane!! You can't just shoot it and hope it finds its way there. Even if you have no velocity on the shot get it to the front of the net. A tipin, a rebound something besides forwards or defensemen blocking shots, or shots going 3 feet wide of the goal.

It looks like Seth has made his choice for goaltender. One thing they can put behind them. As long as Kas plays well it should be his to loose. Now Seth can concentrate on Man Up.

Blaming the referees is getting old. Do you really think they are out to get RPI? Really? You actually believe that? There are a lot of good shrinks out there.
 
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fishcore12 said:
The same people that yell "shoot, shoot" during every power play are the ones who will still complain when the team does shoot and it gets blocked or goes wide. Then when the team does score a PPG they will still find something to nitpick about.
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It got so moronic that we started yelling "shoot" just randomly. e.g. When Kasdorf was playing the puck behind the net, following a turnover in the neutral zone, during the second intermission, etc.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
decided that I wouldn't read the rest.
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Then you also missed where he said "... nearly caught Peca but the son of former Buffalo Sabres captain Mike Peca...". :rolleyes: Matt's dad is named Frank and there's no relation to the NHL's Mike as far as we know.
 
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MarkEagleUSA said:
Then you also missed where he said "... nearly caught Peca but the son of former Buffalo Sabres captain Mike Peca...". :rolleyes: Matt's dad is named Frank and there's no relation to the NHL's Mike as far as we know.
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It was a good guess. :p
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
...I do wonder how many "shot attempts" we had that were not counted as shots, whether they be blocks or we completely missed the net. Call it my know-how for soccer stats if you must, since they keep track of shots off target, but I think it's important, especially considering the version of the pathetic power play I've seen in the last two years.
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Well good luck with that, seeing as how shot are frequently sent slightly off mark.. with the hope/intention of someone tipping/redirecting a shot past the keeper. ..they actually practice it. If you can devise a system that can detect a shooters intention, then you might be onto something.

I havent seen any video, but did anyone else notice .... from where I was sitting -- on the blueline -- that Q looked to be clearly off sides when they scored their 1st goal? (Was it me or did that zebra crew struggle with offsides all night?) Terrible.

Agree with others here -- if the PP were an old horse, it'd be taken out back and shot. Holding the puck too long and drilling a shot into the defenders shin pads is all to predictable, not to mention unacceptable. Whatever the "umbrella" setup on the PP is supposed to achieve, it isn't happening and hasn't happened in quite a while...zero traffic / bodies or shots to the net. Teams are pressuring the point which if you do the math, leaves them at a disadvantage down low...but the forwards to need cycle and create space. Teams are so familiar with what we're trying to do that they react before we even do it. WAY too much holding the puck and too much standing around waiting for a pass....the only thing that accomplishes is making the PK's life easier. More movement without the puck, make the D turn their head, create the disadvantage and get pucks to the net.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
Well good luck with that, seeing as how shot are frequently sent slightly off mark.. with the hope/intention of someone tipping/redirecting a shot past the keeper. ..they actually practice it. If you can devise a system that can detect a shooters intention, then you might be onto something.

I havent seen any video, but did anyone else notice .... from where I was sitting -- on the blueline -- that Q looked to be clearly off sides when they scored their 1st goal? (Was it me or did that zebra crew struggle with offsides all night?) Terrible.

Agree with others here -- if the PP were an old horse, it'd be taken out back and shot. Holding the puck too long and drilling a shot into the defenders shin pads is all to predictable, not to mention unacceptable. Whatever the "umbrella" setup on the PP is supposed to achieve, it isn't happening and hasn't happened in quite a while...zero traffic / bodies or shots to the net. Teams are pressuring the point which if you do the math, leaves them at a disadvantage down low...but the forwards to need cycle and create space. Teams are so familiar with what we're trying to do that they react before we even do it. WAY too much holding the puck and too much standing around waiting for a pass....the only thing that accomplishes is making the PK's life easier. More movement without the puck, make the D turn their head, create the disadvantage and get pucks to the net.
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Totally agree.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
I havent seen any video, but did anyone else notice .... from where I was sitting -- on the blueline -- that Q looked to be clearly off sides when they scored their 1st goal? (Was it me or did that zebra crew struggle with offsides all night?) Terrible.
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From what I saw they had two people offsides. I've grown too used to screwups like that from the zeebs to care anymore.
 
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Red Cloud said:
It got so moronic that we started yelling "shoot" just randomly. e.g. When Kasdorf was playing the puck behind the net, following a turnover in the neutral zone, during the second intermission, etc.
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I was wondering what the hell was going on behind me. Now it all makes sense.
 
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Beman said:
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Blaming the referees is getting old. Do you really think they are out to get RPI? Really? You actually believe that? There are a lot of good shrinks out there.
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Not necessarily, but when there's a clear shot to the head by a Qpac player on one of our guys and he only gets two minutes in the sin bin instead of at least five (almost every attempted headshot should be 5 minutes if not more), and we get 2 minutes for playing hockey and the other team scores on that opportunity after having two men offside, there's something a bit wrong here. Especially when there's been situations like this in the past, too. And the fact that the ECAC leadership is on record slandering our coaching staff. Maybe they're just not as good coincidentially when RPI is on the ice?

That being said, after seeing Hockey East "officiating", I generally keep quiet about the crappy ECAC "officiating".

I have only the following to say about Saturday's performance:
1) People laughed when I suggested Bailen should be playing as a forward. I think after the 6th or 7th slip-up in defense this past weekend, that should start to support my perspective.
2) What's with the umbrella on the PP? With the way RPI plays on the PP, all that does is give the opposition an opportunity to pin RPI at the blue line and force a turnover/breakaway... oh wait, that's exactly what happened!
3) Can you remember the last time the goaltender was pulled and it worked for RPI? Me neither. You don't pull a goaltender to get offense going unless you already have some offensive momentum going. If you're struggling to keep posession as it is, don't pull the goaltender. All that does is force the guys who would normally be putting offensive pressure on the opposition to play defense/makeshift goaltender.
4) Does it seem like every one of our goaltenders has at least some amount of issue controlling rebounds?

/frustration
 
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ibanezist00 said:
3) Can you remember the last time the goaltender was pulled and it worked for RPI? Me neither.
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The second Minnesota State game. We lost in overtime, but we did score with the extra attacker.
 
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