RPI 2013 Part V: Who Wants Screech?

[jmhusker]

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Seeding breakdown for all teams (click Rensselaer near the top to skip down):

http://pwr.reillyhamilton.com/ (20.95%)

Results for each of the outcomes tomorrow, with RPI's new percentage of making the tournament in parenthesis:

WCHA 'Quarterfinal' 1:

Minnesota State wins: http://pwr.reillyhamilton.com/minnst.html (25.63%)​

Interesting, if Wisco loses then we are the favorite to get the 16th seed at 4:1. The problem is that there are a lot of other horses still in the race!​

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Interesting, if Wisco wins then we are the favorite to get the 16th seed at 4:1. The problem is that there are a lot of other horses still in the race!

Are you sure that you meant Wisconsin wins? The percentage also includes us finishing higher than that, and doesn't 25% mean 3-1?

 

[jmhusker]

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Early morning mistake! I did mean loses!

 

[jmhusker]

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Are you sure that you meant Wisconsin wins? The percentage also includes us finishing higher than that, and doesn't 25% mean 3-1?

Yes you are correct about 3:1 in terms of payoff odds. We have a 1 in 4 chance of making it. I hope Pa takes Laura, Mary, Mrs. Ingalls, Carrie, Mr. Edwards and Old Dan Tucker out to the big city tonight so they can cheer the team from Mankato on to victory.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Early morning mistake! I did mean loses!

No problem. I wasn't 100% sure myself because of the time of day.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Not the most important thing with our NCAA tourney hopes resting upon many results over the weekend, but does anyone know if an official team picture was taken this year? There still isn't one on the website. As far as I know there are team pictures from every year since at least since about 1950, so it would be odd if there wasn't one.

 

[Stay@homeDad]

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The surprising thing was we were outplaying and outshooting them for a considerable time-and then as you said-the sleeping giant awoke and it was all over.

We were doing the same to Brown in the 2nd game of this past series until Burgdoerfer scored with about 8 seconds left in the 2nd game and decided to be a punk and salute the Brown bench. I think that woke them up and it showed in the 1st period of Sunday's game. I know a lot of people on here feel we out played Brown in the first period especially because of the difference in shots on goal. I was at the game and I saw a team that came out flat just like on Friday night. They were confused on defense and did not have seem to have the "were hungry" to win this game attitude they did in the 2nd game. They did have a lot of chances that we did not have the "puck luck" as we were seeing. I even asked a friend sitting next to me after Burgdoerfer's rush on net didn't go in if there was a piece of glass going across the goal line that I could not see from my seat. In my eyes they did not seem to dominate the game until late in the 2nd and the 3rd period. Unfortunately the damage had already been done and we were not able to get the equalizer in the 3rd.

I would love to see this team play again this year and how they would respond to that last game. Will wait and see what happens on Sunday.

 

[Red Cloud]

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We were doing the same to Brown in the 2nd game of this past series until Burgdoerfer scored with about 8 seconds left in the 2nd game and decided to be a punk and salute the Brown bench. I think that woke them up and it showed in the 1st period of Sunday's game.

No offense, but this is really, really thin.

 

[REDaero91]

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Wow my memory must be shot. I thought I remembered Seth and the group thinking they were done after the Colgate loss, then having the team start to practice after finding out there was a shot. Oh well, I stand corrected.

I think that was their original assessment until they understood that we were in a position that most results would benefit us.

From what I remember, SA said after the Colgate loss that going to the tournament was a longshot. This past weekend, at the end of the RPIAthletics clip, he clearly uses the word "no". It certainly is tough to wait it out. I'm sure we'll all be watching tomorrow's games intently.

GO MAVS!

Yes, I think two years ago they knew we were in 15th after losing to Colgate but also that anything could happen in the next sets of games and we may or may not make the tournament. We also had two weeks to wait that year, and I think they may have just had a week off to refresh and then starting practicing when we weren't completely out after the first weekend's games. I went skating at the Field House on Monday and Wednesday this week, and somebody's certainly been practicing hard on that ice. Could be the figure skaters for the competition they were advertising for this weekend, but I don't think so.

 

[rvd5star69]

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So go msu and und?

 

[realet]

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So go msu and und?

Actually, if Reilly's numbers are spot on, we'd be rooting for CC, but Minnesota State is by far more important to be pulling for. CC wins, it apparently boosts our odds of making the tournament, but if UND wins it at least eliminates a potential upset champion.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Actually, if Reilly's numbers are spot on, we'd be rooting for CC, but Minnesota State is by far more important to be pulling for. CC wins, it apparently boosts our odds of making the tournament, but if UND wins it at least eliminates a potential upset champion.

My interpretation also.

 

[FreshFish]

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We were not by any means a great team that year. We were very much one dimensional. But I had felt the worst possible draw for us was NDak. They had something like 16 NHL draft choices on a squad that just had strength and poise on every line and every defensive pairing. I thought we had a chance against many of the other teams-but no prayer with them. The surprising thing was we were outplaying and outshooting them for a considerable time-and then as you said-the sleeping giant awoke and it was all over. This year when we are totally healthy-we have the depth to play well against anyone. If by some stroke of luck we do get into the tournament as a 16 seed-any team that has to face us has something to be concerned about. However, it just does not look good for things to fall into place for us this year.

yes, as you say, it appears to me as well that we have a deeper, stronger team this year than we did in 2011, and had we gotten that tying goal in the 3rd period on Sunday I'm confident we'd have won the game eventually. We'd then have drawn Yale whom we always play well against, and we'd have had a much better chance to be playing in April.

It seems to me that the learning experience we could draw from this year is reflected really well in what the coach of St. Louis' basketball team said, adjusted for our situation. You may or may not know that Coach Majerus died before the season started. Their coach said, basically, that they did not want to "dedicate" this season to Majerus..."what does it mean if we don't win? that we didn't love him enough?" Instead, they would dedicate themselves to working really hard on what's right in front of them at the moment, every moment, every game. I think we had that focus for much of the season and then that focus wavered briefly, enough for Brown to get a few goals against the flow of play, and when you combine those lapses with the lapses in concentration we had in a few games early in the season, those few points here and there are now costing us a bid. We really need to learn to use the disappointment to develop a sustained, unwavering, disciplined mental focus.

From my own experiences in high-level athletic competitions, mental focus is at least as important as physical skills and conditioning. I've been in situations where we beat superior teams because we didn't make mistakes and they did and that was enough.

 

[DrDemento]

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FF: Well stated. I don't think anyone should underestimate however, what the loss of Bailen meant for the final game. He is not just a top scorer and a key to the power play. He is an offensively dominant player and often times our offense revolves around him for the shifts that he is on the ice. Our boys adapted, best they could, in less than 24 hours-they played well. They created opportunities. They just either did not score that one extra goal that he could be helpful with or they allowed that one extra goal that we have not been doing much of since December(at least at HFH). I give our team and our coaches a ton of credit for how they handled the entire situation (especially with virtually no healthy bench). I sure hope things play out well-with virtually all the favorites and high ranked teams winning-I really think this team deserves a chance to play some more this year.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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As much as I went off on Brown for stuff I'm not going to bother repeating because you already read it, one thing is absolutely clear: I do not believe we played well in game 3. We played so awful in the first period (awful enough to break a couple commandments of RPI Hockey) that we deserved to lose that game. As I've said time and time again, a game is 120 minutes long (I know that I usually use 65 in the regular season, but in the case of the playoffs, I'll use 120 minutes because our men's team hasn't been beyond three overtimes), and that's how long we need to play like champions. I don't know how different it would have been if Bailen were on the ice, because we didn't seem to be very lacking there. As much as I'd like to see us make the tournament, and that I'm happy we have a better shot than some teams that are forced to play their way in, I'm not sure it's going to happen. Call this the depression stage if you must...

Looking forward to next year's schedule, one thing I am very excited to see is that we actually have a three-game weekend (the 3rd being against the USNTDP). Obviously we're not like the CIS that supposedly does this often (at least according to posts a couple years ago that I remember), but this is going to be VERY helpful to prepare us for these playoff weekends. This is one thing I've always loved about Appert's schedules ever since he came on board. He puts us in a position to not only challenge the team, but also to get us into a position to better the team's overall conditioning and potentially make national noise.

 

[FreshFish]

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I sure hope things play out well-with virtually all the favorites and high ranked teams winning-I really think this team deserves a chance to play some more this year.

I agree whole-heartedly about the "deserves" part, DD.

For some reason I am hearing a faint voice singing "you don't always get what you want, you get what you need." though who and how that "need" is determined remains unanswered, both in the song and in life, eh?

Or to quote from a famous book whose title i can't remember right now, "so it goes."

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I agree whole-heartedly about the "deserves" part, DD.

For some reason I am hearing a faint voice singing "you don't always get what you want, you get what you need." though who and how that "need" is determined remains unanswered, both in the song and in life, eh?

Or to quote from a famous book whose title i can't remember right now, "so it goes."

I thought "And So it Goes" was a Billy Joel song...

 

[vicb]

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[FreshFish]

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Or to quote from <strike>a famous book whose title i can't remember right now,</strike> Slaughterhouse Five, "so it goes."

fixed

 

[turk181]

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I agree whole-heartedly about the "deserves" part, DD.

For some reason I am hearing a faint voice singing "you don't always get what you want, you get what you need." though who and how that "need" is determined remains unanswered, both in the song and in life, eh?

Or to quote from a famous book whose title i can't remember right now, "so it goes."

“And Lot's wife, of course, was told not to look back where all those people and their homes had been. But she did look back, and I love her for that, because it was so human. So she was turned into a pillar of salt. So it goes.”
― Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse-Five