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RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

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Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

Hokydad said:
Word is they are talking to 2 d about coming in for this fall. One from BCHL and other from USHL. Not happy with some of the D's progress and puting a safety net in place.
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Thanks for the info Hokydad.

I suspect the main culprit with regard to lack of progress is Bradley. If that is indeed the case, however, I would take a slight issue with your characterization of things. I suspect that Appert & Co. have always thought of Bradley as a 2012 guy who had a chance to break out this year and make a push for 2011. I would be surprised if Appert had been thinking of Bradley for 2011 all along. In that sense, to say he is "not happy" with the progress would be a little misleading.

All of the above is pure speculation on my part (which I'm sure was obvious).
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

knsmith said:
Thanks for the info Hokydad.

I suspect the main culprit with regard to lack of progress is Bradley. If that is indeed the case, however, I would take a slight issue with your characterization of things. I suspect that Appert & Co. have always thought of Bradley as a 2012 guy who had a chance to break out this year and make a push for 2011. I would be surprised if Appert had been thinking of Bradley for 2011 all along. In that sense, to say he is "not happy" with the progress would be a little misleading.

All of the above is pure speculation on my part (which I'm sure was obvious).
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I may have been misinterpreting what was stated, but I understood his quote as "Appert is not happy with the progress of the D-men that he has currently and therefore wants to bring in multiple defensemen to allow for more than one to be a scratch per game," which I dismissed as preposterous.
 
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Code: 
2011
15 Jacob Laliberté     LC Cornwall Colts (CHL)            09/15/90 5'09" 175 Rockland ON          62-63-70-133- 26 
                                                                             playoffs             16-10-18- 28-  6 
                                                                             total                78-73-88-161- 32 season over
22 Matt Neal            C Stouffville Spirit (OJHL)       11/22/91 5'10" 192 Barrie ON            50-40-60-100- 20 
                                                                             playoffs             19-10-20- 30- 16
                                                                             total                69-50-80-130- 36 season over 
27 Mark McGowan *      LW Oakville Blades (OJHL)          05/08/90 6'02" 195 Etobicoke ON         45-25-30- 55- 50 
                                                                             playoffs             23-10- 7- 17- 28 
                                                                             total                68-35-37- 72- 78 season over
 9 Zach Schroeder      RC St Thomas Academy (Classic Sub) 09/07/92 5'09" 165 Prior Lake MN        25-23-29- 52-  6 
                                                                             playoffs              3- 1- 4-  5-  4
                                                                             state tourney         3- 3- 4-  7-  0 
                                                                             total                31-27-37- 64- 10 season over
10 Curtis Leonard      LD Wellington Dukes (OJHL)         09/23/92 6'03" 180 Napanee ON           48- 2-20- 22- 22
                                                                             playoffs             20- 2- 3-  5- 14
                                                                             Dudley Hewitt Cup     3- 0- 1-  1- 10 04/22/11 #658
                                                                             total                71- 4-24- 28- 46 
21 Ryan Haggerty       RC USNTDP U-18                     03/04/93 6'00" 186 Stamford CT -college 11- 0- 5-  5-  4
                                                                             international        12- 3- 3-  6-  2
                                                                             USHL                 23- 7- 8- 15-  9
                                                                             other                 4- 0- 1-  1-  7
                                                                             total                50-10-17- 27- 22 04/23/11 #613
 5 Luke Curadi *       LD Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL)  05/14/91 6'05" 250 Cheshire CT          52- 2- 9- 11-102 
                                                                             playoffs              1- 0- 0-  0-  0 04/22/11 #633
                                                                             Total                53- 2- 9- 11-102

2011 or 2012
 3 Chris Bradley *     LD Youngstown Phantoms (USHL)      05/20/93 6'01" 190 Williamsville NY     59- 3- 9- 12- 10 season over
26 Mark Miller          F Omaha Lancers (USHL)            07/26/92 5'11" 183 Massena NY           59- 5- 5- 10- 33 
                                                                             playoffs              1- 0- 0-  0-  0 04/22/11 #634
                                                                             Total                60- 5- 5- 10- 33

2012
15 Mike Zalewski *     LW Vernon Vipers (BCHL)            08/18/92 6'03" 205 New Hartford NY      46-12-17- 29- 34 
                                                                             playoffs             16- 5- 3-  8-  4
                                                                             Doyle Cup             5- 1- 3-  4-  4 04/23/11 #659
                                                                             total                67-18-23- 41- 42
33 Jason Kasdorf        G Portage Terriers (MJHL)         05/18/92 6'04" 187 Winnipeg MB      34-24-10-0-2.53-.912
                                                                             playoffs         10- 7- 3-0-2.17-.919
                                                                             ANAVET Cup        4- 2- 1-0-3.30-.888 04/23/11 #663
                                                                             total            48-33-14-0-2.50-.912

2013
23 Jake Wood           LW Gunnery School (NEPSHC)         xx/xx/93 5'08" 170 Georgetown ON        24-10-16- 26-  ? season over

2013 or 2014
27 Drew Melanson       LW Delbarton School (Gordon Conf)  01/10/95 5'11" 145 Paramus NJ           28- 6-16- 22-  ? season over


Women
18 Eleeza Cox *         F Toronto Aeros (PWHL)            09/09/93 5'05" 145 St Catherines ON     17- 7-10- 17-  6 only league games
                                                                             playoffs              0- 0- 0-  0-  0 season over
 2                        Ridley College Tigers                                                   29-47-22- 69-  ? season over, much missing information
                                                                             total                46-54-32- 86-  ? much missing information
88 Taylor Mahoney *     F Chicago Mission 19U (MWEHL)     04/21/93 x'xx" xxx Cary IL              15- 8- 9- 17- 14 only league games
                                                                             playoffs              4- 1- 1-  2-  0 
                                                                             total                19- 9-10- 19- 14 season over
 3 Ali Svoboda *        F Chicago Mission 19U (MWEHL)     10/23/92 x'xx" xxx Arlington Heights IL 17- 7- 9- 16-  2 only league games
                                                                             playoffs              4- 1- 0-  1-  2
                                                                             total                21- 8- 9- 17-  4 season over
21 Kathryn Schilter *   D Toronto Aeros (PWHL)            01/12/93 5'06" 140 Aurora ON            24- 1-13- 14- 10 only league games
                                                                             playoffs              8- 0- 2-  2-  8 season over
                                                                             total                32- 1-15- 16- 18 
18 Mariana Walsh        F Phillips Andover                01/13/93 5'09" xxx Walpole, MA           ?- ?- ?-  ?-  ? season over
                        D Assabet Valley Red U19 (NEGHL)                                           ?- ?- ?-  ?-  ? season over
                                                                             total                 ?- ?- ?-  ?-  ? 
30 Brianna Piper *      G Toronto Aeros (PWHL)            03/19/93 5'08" 145 Oakville ON      21-13- 7-1-1.85-.910 season over
                                                                             playoffs          5- 5- 0-0-1.60-.923
                                                                             total            26-18- 7-1-1.80-.912
 1 Kelly O'Brien *      G Madison Capitols 19U (WMEHL)    xx/xx/9x 5'09" 140 Sussex, WI        7- 4- 2-1-1.00-.966 only league games
                                                                             playoffs          2- 0- 2-0-5.06-.837
                                                                             total             9- 4- 4-1-1.89-.936 season over

* In the RPI directory
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

Ralph: Your list of recruits is beginning to get a bit unwieldy this year for the first time. Perhaps you should split off the women and have them separate? Just a thought since we have a much more comprehensive list than ever before.
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

burgie12 said:
I may have been misinterpreting what was stated, but I understood his quote as "Appert is not happy with the progress of the D-men that he has currently and therefore wants to bring in multiple defensemen to allow for more than one to be a scratch per game," which I dismissed as preposterous.
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no, the ones coming in...
Bradley is not an issue. Look at his results over first half vs 2nd half while being on a very poor team. He is still young and is not an over ager and will only get better.

Since January 1st on, Bradley had 10 points and was a +7 on a very bad team. Youngstown was 14-19 from 1/1 on and blown out in many

Curadi had 2 second assists from 1/1 on and was a Curadi was a minus 7, on the leagues best team.

Curadi also had 11 points where bradley had 12. 9 of curadis were during the first month or so during the period I was blasted for pointing out the obvious.

Curadi will be 21 next month, Bradley is 17 only going to get bigger and stronger. A far superior skating

Based upon these facts and not the bs posts on here, why would anyone ever insinuate that Bradley didnt develop as expected. The facts say otherwise. over agers should kill that league. Especially on a team like ubuque.

Bradley had 2 goals in last 5 games, Curadi didnt have one since January and had 2 assists over last 50+/- games

I sa y this only because it is absurd to keep telling everyone that one player is not coming along and another, who clearly is not, is.

The great part about hockey is that the game sheets dont lie, unless someone changes them after the fact...........

just imagine what the stat comparison would have been if their had not been adjustments
 
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DrDemento said:
Ralph: Your list of recruits is beginning to get a bit unwieldy this year for the first time. Perhaps you should split off the women and have them separate? Just a thought since we have a much more comprehensive list than ever before.
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I could do that, although I am more likely just likely not to include them since it is often very difficult to keep up with their games, but what is the problem really? At least on my computer, there is a scrollable window, and there is no need to go to the bottom if there is no interest.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I could do that, although I am more likely just likely not to include them since it is often very difficult to keep up with their games, but what is the problem really? At least on my computer, there is a scrollable window, and there is no need to go to the bottom if there is no interest.
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Maybe there's a concern about separate lines for playoffs and the women getting pushed further down to the bottom. I agree with you, though, just use the scroll bar.
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

Hokydad said:
no, the ones coming in...
Bradley is not an issue. Look at his results over first half vs 2nd half while being on a very poor team. He is still young and is not an over ager and will only get better.

Since January 1st on, Bradley had 10 points and was a +7 on a very bad team. Youngstown was 14-19 from 1/1 on and blown out in many

Curadi had 2 second assists from 1/1 on and was a Curadi was a minus 7, on the leagues best team.

Curadi also had 11 points where bradley had 12. 9 of curadis were during the first month or so during the period I was blasted for pointing out the obvious.

Curadi will be 21 next month, Bradley is 17 only going to get bigger and stronger. A far superior skating

Based upon these facts and not the bs posts on here, why would anyone ever insinuate that Bradley didnt develop as expected. The facts say otherwise. over agers should kill that league. Especially on a team like ubuque.

Bradley had 2 goals in last 5 games, Curadi didnt have one since January and had 2 assists over last 50+/- games

I sa y this only because it is absurd to keep telling everyone that one player is not coming along and another, who clearly is not, is.

The great part about hockey is that the game sheets dont lie, unless someone changes them after the fact...........

just imagine what the stat comparison would have been if their had not been adjustments
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Even before you edited, I figured this was more "Curadi ran over my dog" talk.

Nevertheless, you certainly make some valid points. However, isn't it true that Curadi picked up hockey at a very late age? One would expect him to have a much tougher learning curve than normal over-agers. I don't think any of us are counting on Curadi coming in and being a top 4 d-man from the start. We know he will be a project because he's taking big steps up in level of play very quickly (he took a big jump to the USHL, and moving to RPI will be another big jump). With that said, coaches have seen something in him for a long time (he committed to UMass-Amherst long before the USHL was even in the picture). My comment below regarding Bradley would also apply to Curadi - I would imagine it is a gross mischaracterization to say Appert is "not happy" with Curadi's development, but instead seeing reinforced the notion that Curadi will be a project, but one well worth undertaking given the size, leadership, teamwork, and other off-ice values he brings to the table.
 
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Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

Hokydad said:
no, the ones coming in...
Bradley is not an issue. Look at his results over first half vs 2nd half while being on a very poor team. He is still young and is not an over ager and will only get better.

Since January 1st on, Bradley had 10 points and was a +7 on a very bad team. Youngstown was 14-19 from 1/1 on and blown out in many

Curadi had 2 second assists from 1/1 on and was a Curadi was a minus 7, on the leagues best team.

Curadi also had 11 points where bradley had 12. 9 of curadis were during the first month or so during the period I was blasted for pointing out the obvious.

Curadi will be 21 next month, Bradley is 17 only going to get bigger and stronger. A far superior skating

Based upon these facts and not the bs posts on here, why would anyone ever insinuate that Bradley didnt develop as expected. The facts say otherwise. over agers should kill that league. Especially on a team like ubuque.

Bradley had 2 goals in last 5 games, Curadi didnt have one since January and had 2 assists over last 50+/- games

I sa y this only because it is absurd to keep telling everyone that one player is not coming along and another, who clearly is not, is.

The great part about hockey is that the game sheets dont lie, unless someone changes them after the fact...........

just imagine what the stat comparison would have been if their had not been adjustments
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While your comparisons are factual, they do not tell the whole story.
The two defensemen in question are totally different types when it comes to playing defense.
Curadi will not be groomed to take Bailen or Bergin's place. He will be a stay at home defenseman and hopefully keep the crease clear for his goalies.
Bradley has great upside potential offensively. He may very well inherit Bailen/Bergin's spot on the team.
A great hockey team needs both. As long as everyone knows his role and performs up to his potential, this team has a great future.
I for one look forward to watching both of them.
 
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one has now played 4+ years of juniors, one just finished his first year.

I only said this because someone tried to insinuate that Bradley didnt develop well. based upon the facts, he did. Being a minus 7 on that team over last 4 months is not a top shut down D effort.

dont care either way but do not like the manipulation
take out those after the fact points and what was accomplished. Amazing how it 100% stopped the day it was brought out here.

Apert looks at Bradley as a top 4 and at 6'1" and a very good skater will be a much better contributor. His results from 1/1 on speak volumes for his development ina very tough league,

Bradleys 12 points would have put him 2nd in scoring for D on team USA. If he had played with their F's, it would have been better. If he Dubuques F's, he would have had 30+/-

To say that "I suspect the main culprit with regard to lack of progress is Bradley"

is wrong. Just look at the facts and the results. For a 17 year old, Bradley did very well and trended up. that is what coaches care about

Since we are mentioning players, it is obvious that LC had a very weak showing over last 4 or 5 months and for an over aged player would be of concern to any coach.
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

engineerhockeyfan said:
While your comparisons are factual, they do not tell the whole story.
The two defensemen in question are totally different types when it comes to playing defense.
Curadi will not be groomed to take Bailen or Bergin's place. He will be a stay at home defenseman and hopefully keep the crease clear for his goalies.
Bradley has great upside potential offensively. He may very well inherit Bailen/Bergin's spot on the team.
A great hockey team needs both. As long as everyone knows his role and performs up to his potential, this team has a great future.
I for one look forward to watching both of them.
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You can't say it any better than that EHF. Great freakin post.

The truth is that we had a glaring lack of physicality on the blueline this year...which was proven on a near weekly basis by the sheer number of times York got steamrolled and/or whacked and otherwise violated after the whistle. Personally, I like my d-men to PLAY DEFENSE as their 1st and 2nd responsibility...I know, I'm crazy like that.

Curadi is a kid who takes responsibility and sends a message as soon as his toe hits the ice...and that attitude was missing from this year's squad, IMO. He will be a great addition to the squad.

I'm not expecting him to make the score sheet and anyone who is should have their head examined.
 
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Hokydad said:
one has now played 4+ years of juniors, one just finished his first year.

I only said this because someone tried to insinuate that Bradley didnt develop well. based upon the facts, he did. Being a minus 7 on that team over last 4 months is not a top shut down D effort.

dont care either way but do not like the manipulation
take out those after the fact points and what was accomplished. Amazing how it 100% stopped the day it was brought out here.

Apert looks at Bradley as a top 4 and at 6'1" and a very good skater will be a much better contributor. His results from 1/1 on speak volumes for his development ina very tough league,

Bradleys 12 points would have put him 2nd in scoring for D on team USA. If he had played with their F's, it would have been better. If he Dubuques F's, he would have had 30+/-

To say that "I suspect the main culprit with regard to lack of progress is Bradley"

is wrong. Just look at the facts and the results. For a 17 year old, Bradley did very well and trended up. that is what coaches care about

Since we are mentioning players, it is obvious that LC had a very weak showing over last 4 or 5 months and for an over aged player would be of concern to any coach.
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You made an extraordinarily cryptic, unexplained remark. I was blindly speculating in an effort to tease out more real info, which you obliged.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
You can't say it any better than that EHF. Great freakin post.

The truth is that we had a glaring lack of physicality on the blueline this year...which was proven on a near weekly basis by the sheer number of times York got steamrolled and/or whacked and otherwise violated after the whistle. Personally, I like my d-men to PLAY DEFENSE as their 1st and 2nd responsibility...I know, I'm crazy like that.

Curadi is a kid who takes responsibility and sends a message as soon as his toe hits the ice...and that attitude was missing from this year's squad, IMO. He will be a great addition to the squad.

I'm not expecting him to make the score sheet and anyone who is should have their head examined.
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hope you are right but that didnt materialize in Dubuque this year. In college hockey the high end F's could care less about messages. With cages, zero fighting and games called tight, not even on the radar screen.
 
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knsmith said:
You made an extraordinarily cryptic, unexplained remark. I was blindly speculating in an effort to tease out more real info, which you obliged.
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no problem... You are the one who said "I suspect the main culprit with regard to lack of progress is Bradley"

Bradleys success speaks volumes for a 17 year old on that team in that league......
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

Hokydad said:
... In college hockey the high end F's could care less about messages...
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I'll let you tell that to the NoDak kid Josh Rabbani absolutely DESTROYED in the opening minutes of an otherwise forgettable game...with a beautful, CLEAN pancake:D To my recolelction, the kid didn't return...

Rabbani, is another kid who was skoffed at coming out of the NAHL...Appert saw something and the kid sends at least one "message" every time he's on the ice. What I mean by that is -- there are kids who finish every check and keep kids honest (i.e. skating with their head up) and kids who don't. Both Rabbani and Curadi are both those kinds of guys. Not every kid is, nor should be, a figure skating sniper.

Nobody here intended to bash Bradley - I'm glad very he's ours .
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

Hokydad said:
Since we are mentioning players, it is obvious that LC had a very weak showing over last 4 or 5 months and for an over aged player would be of concern to any coach.
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Curadi is a '91. To the best of my knowledge, that isn't overaged.
 
Re: RPI 2011 Recruit Thread Pt. IV

Nobody here intended to bash Bradley - I'm glad very he's ours .
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Couldn't agree more.

I still hope that he gets another year of seasoning in the USHL. If he does, I think he could step in and be a stud right from the get go. If he comes in as a young 18 yo, there'll be a good deal more learning curve. Plus, the U is a much better place for him for next year, where he can get 25+ minutes of ice time in probably twice as many games as he'd see at RPI. Just seems like there's so much untapped potential there right now.
 
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