Wicked Slappaahs
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
You should know better than to confuse him with facts... Great post
You should know better than to confuse him with facts... Great post
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RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
300 to 500 is a little easier to do vs 450 to 800, please
rpi improved by 1 point, a tie to a loss last year. Union sky rocketed.
Union is there and has risen. RPI has gone from basement to avg, underperforming 500 league play team
300 to 500 is a little easier to do vs 450 to 800, please
rpi improved by 1 point, a tie to a loss last year. Union sky rocketed.
Union is there and has risen. RPI has gone from basement to avg, underperforming 500 league play team
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My other deviation from fact? Saying that I believe that Union is a team on the rise. Their record over the past three seasons indicates that they are a team on the rise.
You know what? I had a third deviation from fact. I stated that I think RPI is a team on the rise. Why? Because their out-of-conference record and schedule continues to improve and their overall record has improved considerably over the past four seasons.
Over the past five seasons, RPI's league standing has had the following path: T-8, T-10, 11, T-5, T-4. To me, that indicates a team that had hit bottom and is improving their quality of play.
Over the same five seasons, Union's league standing has been 12, T-4, T-8, 3, 1. To me, that shows a team that is brutally inconsistent but is much more likely to be better now than five years ago.
My deviation from facts was my choice in the teams that I chose. Why did I choose Yale? Because I believe them to be the best team in the league (OPINION). Why do I believe them to be the best team in the league? Because in the past two years (since that's the timeline you're so severely focused on), they have won a Cleary Cup, finished second by one point, and won a tournament championship. Those are facts. My opinion is supported by facts.
My other deviation from fact? Saying that I believe that Union is a team on the rise. Their record over the past three seasons indicates that they are a team on the rise.
You know what? I had a third deviation from fact. I stated that I think RPI is a team on the rise. Why? Because their out-of-conference record and schedule continues to improve and their overall record has improved considerably over the past four seasons.
Over the past five seasons, RPI's league standing has had the following path: T-8, T-10, 11, T-5, T-4. To me, that indicates a team that had hit bottom and is improving their quality of play.
Over the same five seasons, Union's league standing has been 12, T-4, T-8, 3, 1. To me, that shows a team that is brutally inconsistent but is much more likely to be better now than five years ago.
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
Not true...at least not according to the last 10 years of ECAC play.
RPI is the only squad to go from a sub .300 season to over .500 within three seasons. Meanwhile, Clarkson went from .455 to winning the league between 2005-2006 and 2007-2008. Yale also went from .386 to first in the league from 2006-2007 to 2008-2009.
The fact that two other teams besides Union had accomplished a ~450 to first in the league, while no other team besides RPI has gone from sub .300 to over .500 in three seasons, tells me that it is more difficult to do what RPI has done, than what Union has done.
Not true...at least not according to the last 10 years of ECAC play.
RPI is the only squad to go from a sub .300 season to over .500 within three seasons. Meanwhile, Clarkson went from .455 to winning the league between 2005-2006 and 2007-2008. Yale also went from .386 to first in the league from 2006-2007 to 2008-2009.
The fact that two other teams besides Union had accomplished a ~450 to first in the league, while no other team besides RPI has gone from sub .300 to over .500 in three seasons, tells me that it is more difficult to do what RPI has done, than what Union has done.
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
false..
agree with everything you say about Yale. If they play well vs them and incosistant vs others, sounds like coaching issue
why last 2 years? Because the TEAM has nothing to do with 4/5 years ago. The team is the kids there now and that would be core over last 2 seasons
8th-3rd to 1st is awesome
11th to 5th to 4th is whatever.
one went from 9 to 12 to 17 wins in league play(guess who)
other went from 6 to 10 to 11. wow....
false..
agree with everything you say about Yale. If they play well vs them and incosistant vs others, sounds like coaching issue
why last 2 years? Because the TEAM has nothing to do with 4/5 years ago. The team is the kids there now and that would be core over last 2 seasons
8th-3rd to 1st is awesome
11th to 5th to 4th is whatever.
one went from 9 to 12 to 17 wins in league play(guess who)
other went from 6 to 10 to 11. wow....
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
that is the biggest reach ever... But hey, if that is there goal. 500 mid/avg at best team who chokes to worst team in league every year in tournament, than bingo, we have a winner
that is the biggest reach ever... But hey, if that is there goal. 500 mid/avg at best team who chokes to worst team in league every year in tournament, than bingo, we have a winner
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
8th to 1st = 7 spot improvement
11th to 4th = 7 spot improvement
7=7
What are you not getting when you are typing your own facts?
9 to 17 wins, ~89% improvement
6 to 11 wins, ~83% improvement
Is 6% greater improvement that big of a difference to where one team is off the charts on the rise and the other mediocre? No.
8th to 1st = 7 spot improvement
11th to 4th = 7 spot improvement
7=7
What are you not getting when you are typing your own facts?
Hokydad said:
9 to 17 wins, ~89% improvement
6 to 11 wins, ~83% improvement
Is 6% greater improvement that big of a difference to where one team is off the charts on the rise and the other mediocre? No.
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
I'm framing this one. Man, that's gold. Remember kids, it's not important to finish 4th. 11th of 12 is just perfectly fine. I mean, really, who would want to be 4th when they could be 11th!?
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
I want to reiterate. This was posted by one of BROWN'S four fans.
You know, the team that was picked to finish dead last in the ECAC by the coaches... although the media thinks they can make it to 11th!
I want to reiterate. This was posted by one of BROWN'S four fans.
You know, the team that was picked to finish dead last in the ECAC by the coaches... although the media thinks they can make it to 11th!
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
I cant figure out why we are arguing. If It is so black and white and RPI is rising and has arrived, no worries
If you simply said, back to respectable levels and hope to build on it, great
but to pretend that a 500 team who chokes in playoffs both years is there, please
frame it burgie, 11th to 5th to 4th and choking impresses none of the top coaches and programs
the top ones would be hiding their heads but you want a ticker tape parade.
If that is their level and happy with it, great
I cant figure out why we are arguing. If It is so black and white and RPI is rising and has arrived, no worries
If you simply said, back to respectable levels and hope to build on it, great
but to pretend that a 500 team who chokes in playoffs both years is there, please
frame it burgie, 11th to 5th to 4th and choking impresses none of the top coaches and programs
the top ones would be hiding their heads but you want a ticker tape parade.
If that is their level and happy with it, great
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
I can't speak for RPI fans, but it doesn't seem as though they want a ticker tape parade. It seems that they would just like some respect for the improvements their coach and program have made over the past few years. They clearly deserve it, but you spout off statistics and facts that don't even support your claims.
I can't speak for RPI fans, but it doesn't seem as though they want a ticker tape parade. It seems that they would just like some respect for the improvements their coach and program have made over the past few years. They clearly deserve it, but you spout off statistics and facts that don't even support your claims.
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
*dusts off ignore list*
Ah, much better. So, how 'bout that game tomorrow?
*dusts off ignore list*
Ah, much better. So, how 'bout that game tomorrow?
Wicked Slappaahs
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
Ahh shucks, we can only hope that someday, if we do our chores and say our prayers that maybe someday we can recruit a great kid from Western Canada... Oh wait...what? Allen who ? Allen York ? He was from WHERE ?? Oh, that's right WETASKIWIN, ALBERTA. Jason Kasdorf is from where? WINNIPEG, MANITOBA Huh, who'da thunk it.
Maybe someday, if we're reaaaalllly lucky like Union, we can nab a coach or two who can recruit Western CA...It's probably WAY too big of a dream for me to wish for somebody who's from out there and maybe even coached out there.....
OH WAIT, what's that? Nolan who....? Nolan Graham? He's born and raised where? He coached WHERE ? Oh that's right, ALBERNI, BRITISH COLUMBIA !!!!
Take your mind numbingly clueless blathering over to the Union thread where it belongs....does no one patrol this board?
Ahh shucks, we can only hope that someday, if we do our chores and say our prayers that maybe someday we can recruit a great kid from Western Canada... Oh wait...what? Allen who ? Allen York ? He was from WHERE ?? Oh, that's right WETASKIWIN, ALBERTA. Jason Kasdorf is from where? WINNIPEG, MANITOBA Huh, who'da thunk it.
Maybe someday, if we're reaaaalllly lucky like Union, we can nab a coach or two who can recruit Western CA...It's probably WAY too big of a dream for me to wish for somebody who's from out there and maybe even coached out there.....
OH WAIT, what's that? Nolan who....? Nolan Graham? He's born and raised where? He coached WHERE ? Oh that's right, ALBERNI, BRITISH COLUMBIA !!!!
Take your mind numbingly clueless blathering over to the Union thread where it belongs....does no one patrol this board?
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
Congrats to AspyDad on his addition to the fam...and thank him for making me an uncle again...if anyone is interested we are heading to the Rec Room after Sat.game and Im going to explain the birds and bees to him(again) and help him to understand why he keeps getting his wife pregnant and making rookie mistakes....any help woukd be appreciatd !!!! Welcome Maggie
Congrats to AspyDad on his addition to the fam...and thank him for making me an uncle again...if anyone is interested we are heading to the Rec Room after Sat.game and Im going to explain the birds and bees to him(again) and help him to understand why he keeps getting his wife pregnant and making rookie mistakes....any help woukd be appreciatd !!!! Welcome Maggie
Wicked Slappaahs
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
We're not happy with it, numbnuts. That's the point of being ON THE RISE. No one's demanding a ticker tape parade.
QFT. The other meaning.
We're not happy with it, numbnuts. That's the point of being ON THE RISE. No one's demanding a ticker tape parade.
QFT. The other meaning.
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Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
FS23, Thanks for joining us in the quicksand.
Hokydad, see even a fan of a school that destroyed (I think that is the verb you used) RPI 6-0 last year, agrees that the team is on the rise. Also Julie Robenhymer, who graduated from UMA, and thus apparently doesn't have a vested interest in this, wrote virtually the same thing.
FS23, Thanks for joining us in the quicksand.
Hokydad, see even a fan of a school that destroyed (I think that is the verb you used) RPI 6-0 last year, agrees that the team is on the rise. Also Julie Robenhymer, who graduated from UMA, and thus apparently doesn't have a vested interest in this, wrote virtually the same thing.
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
Almost as much as going from 8th to 3rd to 1st and choking does.
Almost as much as going from 8th to 3rd to 1st and choking does.
Re: RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board
opinions vary
bottom tier to 500 is fine but who cares. d 1 teams are not lap dogs
last to league champions and top 10 and 850 winning % is.
it all stems from the constant patronizing posts by RPI fans towards Unions team. Which is a superior team and will be for the next 3-5 years ta least,
opinions vary
bottom tier to 500 is fine but who cares. d 1 teams are not lap dogs
last to league champions and top 10 and 850 winning % is.
it all stems from the constant patronizing posts by RPI fans towards Unions team. Which is a superior team and will be for the next 3-5 years ta least,
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