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RPI 2011-12 Season: Posts on a Message Board

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bad bews on that front, could care less what Timmah! or Flagdude thinks. Like suckerfish swimming around

Watch union vs rpi next 4-5 years. One sided and one is on the rise, other is sideways

Burgie is right though, RPI has done pretty darn well vs Union over past 2 seasons at 2-4-1. For a program on the rise, the stats dont lie......
No one here has said that Union is not on the rise. If two teams are both on the rise and one gets a head-start of two years, then it's expected that their records are not going to be 0.500.

And you want on the rise? How about:
2010 1-3-0
2011 1-1-1

I'll let you take a stab at what those records mean.
 
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Never mind the fact that you haven't addressed the fact that RPI has posted the best record against Yale (#1 and #2 with the tournament championship) over the past two seasons and the best cumulative record against Yale and Union (who you keep fawning over).

Yes, we are very much on the decline when we can't beat the top teams in the league. Oh wait. We do.
 
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No one hear has said that Union is not on the rise. If two teams are both on the rise and one gets a head-start of two years, then it's expected that their records are not going to be 0.500.

And you want on the rise? How about:
2010 1-3-0
2011 1-1-1

I'll let you take a stab at what those records mean.

Just to set the record straight, IMHO although Union has been on the rise for several years, it would not surprise me if they have peaked.
 
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bad bews on that front, could care less what Timmah! or Flagdude thinks. Like suckerfish swimming around

Watch union vs rpi next 4-5 years. One sided and one is on the rise, other is sideways

Burgie is right though, RPI has done pretty darn well vs Union over past 2 seasons at 2-4-1. For a program on the rise, the stats dont lie......

Do you ride a unicycle or juggle? I was thinking you could set yourself on fire, juggle chainsaws, and ride your unicycle off of a cliff.
 
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See, this is what happens when you provoke a bunch of nerds :D (Yes, Hoky, I realized I just called myself a nerd.)
While it was a little bit spurred by HokyDad (because Havasu never would've asked the question in the first place), it was something that I had thought about exploring before. I just never had the motivation.
 
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Sorry, I haven't stopped laughing since someone said RPI was a "team on the rise". LOL. Good one.
 
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Sorry, I haven't stopped laughing since someone said RPI was a "team on the rise". LOL. Good one.

Nice signature.....it is going to be tough for Brown to repeat as National Champs of child pornography, now that Harry Z has gone pro in it. Then again, I'm sure the team can probably hit up Moses Brown this weekend, and turn this rebuilding year into a legit championship run...
 
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Never mind the fact that you haven't addressed the fact that RPI has posted the best record against Yale (#1 and #2 with the tournament championship) over the past two seasons and the best cumulative record against Yale and Union (who you keep fawning over).

Yes, we are very much on the decline when we can't beat the top teams in the league. Oh wait. We do.

Now you are reaching.....

And Lowell beat MC, yee ha...

5th and 6th, first rd losses each year to last and next to last placed team. worst relative performnce in tournament out of every team in league over past 2 seasons
 
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So, it turns out I was half-right and half-wrong with my original guess.

In in-conference games over the past two years, only Dartmouth and Yale have winning records against Union. They both went 2-1-1. RPI is tied for 5th with Brown and Colgate with 0.250 winning percentages against Union.

But, burgie12, we've played Union 7 times in the past two seasons! You're right. And that brings our record up to 0.357 (2-4-1) in the past two years. If you consider non-playoff records against Union, that's good for 5th place. If you add in Union's play in the conference playoffs to their regular season record, RPI's .357 drops into 6th place behind Colgate based on Colgate winning the playoff series this March. No matter what way you slice it, we're about middle of the pack within the ECAC in record vs Union over the past two seasons.

If you narrow it to just the 2010-11 season, then that 0.500 record we posted last season was good for tied for second. Dartmouth went 1-0-1 and therefore posted the best record against Union.

On to Yale:
Both RPI and Union split the regular season against the Elis last season. No team won the season series against Yale. So, we tied for first.

Over the past two seasons, RPI has gone 3-1-0 against Yale. St. Lawrence posted a 0.500 record in regular season play, but lost the quarterfinal round to the Bulldogs this past season, so no other team can even claim a 0.500 record overall against Yale over the past two seasons.

Combined:
Yale went 2-1-1 against Union over the past two seasons and has the best cumulative record against Union and Yale. RPI's (4-4-0, 5-5-1) record is enough for second place. So, of the ten teams not named Union or Yale, the team with the best record against those two teams is RPI. Harvard had a (3-5-0, 3-5-0) record, good for second place. (By the way, Harvard went 0-4-0 this season, which means that they actually had a 3-1-0 record against the Bulldogs and Dutchmen in the 2009-10 season, which is pretty awesome and also indicates why we need a bigger sample size than one season.)

Other:
Using the power of pivot tables, I have found that Yale has the best record during conference play against teams that received a bye in that season's playoffs. They went 9-1-2 over the past two seasons against teams that finished seeded 1-4. No other team finished above 0.500. RPI's 0.406 (6-9-1) record was good for fourth place. That record was severely brought down by their performance against Cornell (0-3-1) over the past two seasons. Clarkson had the worst record at 1-15-0.

Wow, burgie12, it seems like you can pull a lot of seemingly random and highly specific stats out of whatever you're using. You're right, again! Man, 2-for-2! Last night I started putting together a spreadsheet that includes all of the college hockey schedules (only ECAC so far) from the past few seasons (two so far). Once I fill it out a little more (I'm thinking five seasons, to start), I'll add it to my Public Dropbox folder and send out a link (no, you don't need Dropbox to view it. It's probably what I'm going to do with the PtC standings, too) so that you can take a look at the results. Ever wonder "Hmm... I wonder who performed the best in "crunch time" (February / March / April) against teams that did really well in their conference (Top 4 finish) over the past five seasons in non-friendly environments (Neutral / Away only) and disregard all games against AHA / independent teams"? No? Just me? Well, if you do ever wonder that, then this spreadsheet is going to be for you. (BTW, Yale posted the best record over the past two seasons under that criteria (4-2-0). They went into Colgate and Cornell in February of 2010 and won both games, beat NoDak in the Regionals that year, and beat Cornell in Atlantic City this past March. They lost to BC in the Regional Finals in 2010 and also lost to UMD in the Regional Finals in 2011. They are the only team from the ECAC to have a winning record under the criteria I listed above. Union is 0-4-0 over that stretch while RPI is 0-2-1.)

Ralph, I think you have some competition.
 
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Just to set the record straight, IMHO although Union has been on the rise for several years, it would not surprise me if they have peaked.

league champions, top 10 in country. lets hope they stay flat for many years to come.
at least they peaked at a level considered elite
 
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Now you are reaching.....

And Lowell beat MC, yee ha...

5th and 6th, first rd losses each year to last and next to last placed team. worst relative performnce in tournament out of every team in league over past 2 seasons

Have you ever owned a phonograph where the needle just continuously gets stuck and causes the same couple of seconds of the information to keep repeating over and over and over? That's you. Take the hint.
 
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Nice signature.....it is going to be tough for Brown to repeat as National Champs of child pornography, now that Harry Z has gone pro in it. Then again, I'm sure the team can probably hit up Moses Brown this weekend, and turn this rebuilding year into a legit championship run...

Brown has done a better job recruiting than RPI has and will pass them in 2-3 years. Brown coaches have slowly been bringing in some very good players and their depth is going to be there key.
 
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I'm reaching as much as you are.

So you're equating MC to Union?

nope, just pointing out that any team that is 500 +/- and consistant underachievers can trip over a nut on occasion

Try and stick to facts.

Look at union over past 3 years in league play and than look at RPI

night and day

its weird that a team that can do that to Yale cant beat Brown or Colgate when it counts. You know what they say about teams like that... Not prepared starts with coaching

emperors new clothes......
 
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Have you ever owned a phonograph where the needle just continuously gets stuck and causes the same couple of seconds of the information to keep repeating over and over and over? That's you. Take the hint.

QFT a
 
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nope, just pointing out that any team that is 500 +/- and consistant underachievers can trip over a nut on occasion

Try and stick to facts.

Look at union over past 3 years in league play and than look at RPI

night and day

First two, then five for Union, now three...

Trolling lesson #1: Pick ONE story and go with it.
Trolling lesson #2: Don't be a stuck needle.

Why am I trying to teach a troll how to troll...
 
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Try and stick to facts.

Look at union over past 3 years in league play and than look at RPI

I'm not sure why I care, but here are some facts for you.

Over the past 3 seasons...

Union went from a .455 ECAC win % to a .818 win %. That is an increase by 79.78%.
RPI went from a .295 ECAC win % to a .545 win %. That is an increase by 84.75%.

Now, I certainly wouldn't say that Union sucks and not rising. They are. But RPI has been rising at a faster rate over the past three seasons.
 
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Brown has done a better job recruiting than RPI has and will pass them in 2-3 years. Brown coaches have slowly been bringing in some very good players and their depth is going to be there key.

Hokydad, I completely agree. Harry Z was drafted out of the Port Alberni provincial court, and already had extensive experience with child pornography before even joining Brown's roster. RPI is clearly way behind in the recruitment of child pornographers....thankfully RPI has decided to pursue hockey instead.
 
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First two, then five for Union, now three...

Trolling lesson #1: Pick ONE story and go with it.
Trolling lesson #2: Don't be a stuck needle.

bray on


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He will be 21+ when he shows up

Matt Wilkins Commits to Union College

2011 September 25th

The Brooks Bandits are proud to announce 20-year-old Forward Matt Wilkins has committed to play at Union College beginning in the fall of 2012. Located in Schenectady, New York the "Dutchmen" play in the ECAC and were the conference champions in 2011.

Matt is from Kimberley, BC where he grew up playing minor hockey and Junior B for the hometown "Dynamiters". Before joining the Bandits in the summer of 2010 Matt was with the Trail Smoke Eaters of the BCHL. Matt led the Bandits in scoring last season with 30 goals and 47 assists which put him second in AJHL scoring. He followed those numbers with 15 points in only 10 playoff games.

Head Coach/GM Ryan Papaioannou - "I've had the opportunity to coach Matt as early as 9 years old and to see his progress over the years is very special. We were fortunate to acquire Matt before last season and his play on the ice has led our club ever since. He brings leadership to our dressing room and as an Assistant Captain he is looked up to by our younger players. Matt comes from a tremendous family and they fully deserve to see him reach a goal with this commitment to Union. "

Matt is the first Bandit of the 2011 - 2012 season to commit to the NCAA.
 
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