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RPI 2011-12 Part V: Don't Stop Believing
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A lost art. My daughter teaches math at the high school level and has told me that most of her students are lost without their computers, cell phones and calculators. Heaven forbid their batteries go dead.
A lost art. My daughter teaches math at the high school level and has told me that most of her students are lost without their computers, cell phones and calculators. Heaven forbid their batteries go dead.
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If only someone hadn't already posted that...
That would give us for NC thus far (still just rumors): 2x Ferris, 2x @Mankato, 2x St, Clooud, likely 1x Union, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a HEA team in there (maybe BU), probably an Atlantic team or two (sort of hoping Canisius so we have actually played them)...
If only someone hadn't already posted that...
That would give us for NC thus far (still just rumors): 2x Ferris, 2x @Mankato, 2x St, Clooud, likely 1x Union, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a HEA team in there (maybe BU), probably an Atlantic team or two (sort of hoping Canisius so we have actually played them)...
Re: RPI 2011-12 Part V: Don't Stop Believing
Havent been able to keep up as much on the threads since picking up an extra job, guess I should catch up on some reading before I post from now on.If only someone hadn't already posted that...
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I've thought about it, trouble is there are 3^24 possible scenarios (that's 282 billion) so a Monte Carlo simulation would be needed, plus I never worked out a good way to weight/predict ties using KRACH. Given that every game can result in a tie, it would likely skew results significantly.
It's still a possibility; I might take a stab at it if I get bored tomorrow!
I've thought about it, trouble is there are 3^24 possible scenarios (that's 282 billion) so a Monte Carlo simulation would be needed, plus I never worked out a good way to weight/predict ties using KRACH. Given that every game can result in a tie, it would likely skew results significantly.
It's still a possibility; I might take a stab at it if I get bored tomorrow!
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WOW !!!!!!!!...where did that come from...Get outta the foxhole !!!!!!!!!
Aha. I knew there was a reason uniontrack couldn't be troyboy. He doesn't use exclamation marks!
If you do get the chance to look into it, can you please cross-post on the ECAC Byes thread? I could use some help with the math there every once in a while
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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I am impressed. For whatever reason, they had already stopped teaching that algorithm when I went to HS. I taught it to myself but never learned it.
I am impressed. For whatever reason, they had already stopped teaching that algorithm when I went to HS. I taught it to myself but never learned it.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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I don't always make much sense in the middle of the night, or during the day either. I meant "I taught it to myself but never learned it in school."
I don't always make much sense in the middle of the night, or during the day either. I meant "I taught it to myself but never learned it in school."
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The same is true for me. I don't use divide and average, which is probably the way that most people would teach.
The same is true for me. I don't use divide and average, which is probably the way that most people would teach.
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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'Tute players visiting a local elementary school http://www.rpiathletics.com/news/2012/2/15/MHOCK_0215125054.aspx
'Tute players visiting a local elementary school http://www.rpiathletics.com/news/2012/2/15/MHOCK_0215125054.aspx
Ralph Baer
Let's Go 'Tute!
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It would make sense in the computer age, since that is a simple way to program a square root algorithm although it is fairly slow.
It would make sense in the computer age, since that is a simple way to program a square root algorithm although it is fairly slow.
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It certainly doesn't require divisors that are dependent upon the quotient (unlike the algorithm that I use), but you are right in that it is inefficient. I haven't looked at the source of the math.h library, so I don't know how the sqrt() method works.
It certainly doesn't require divisors that are dependent upon the quotient (unlike the algorithm that I use), but you are right in that it is inefficient. I haven't looked at the source of the math.h library, so I don't know how the sqrt() method works.
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I haven't looked either, though the way some of these machines work, goal seek algorithm in many cases works just fine.
I haven't looked either, though the way some of these machines work, goal seek algorithm in many cases works just fine.
Ralph Baer
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I saw this on my facebook feed. It's really nice that the athletes are fostering a relationship with the community. Has this sort of thing happened often?
I saw this on my facebook feed. It's really nice that the athletes are fostering a relationship with the community. Has this sort of thing happened often?
Re: RPI 2011-12 Part V: Don't Stop Believing
It is basically a brute force, trial-and-error method. You insert a number into a formula, compare the formula result to the desired result; then keep changing the original number until the formula result matches the desired result within the level of tolerance.
Which translated into English means, rather than solve for the square root, you instead take x * x and compare the result to your starting number:
Suppose you want the square root of 144.
(a) start with x = 10, you get 10 x 10 = 100 which is < 144 so increase 10.
(b) Try 11, you get 11 x 11 = 121 < 144, so increase 11.
(c) Try 13 you get 13 x 13 = 169 > 144, so decrease 13
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. etc etc etc until eventually you get to x = 12 and you get 12 x 12 = 144 = 144 and so you stop.
It is ugly and inelegant and it works by using raw processing power.
It's ironic, when I used to use a slide rule I would spend more time figuring out where to put the decimal place than I did in solving for the number itself. I probably still have my table of logarithms book in storage somewhere. When the EMP hits I'll be scrambling to find it while I unearth the silver coins from their hiding spot.
It is basically a brute force, trial-and-error method. You insert a number into a formula, compare the formula result to the desired result; then keep changing the original number until the formula result matches the desired result within the level of tolerance.
Which translated into English means, rather than solve for the square root, you instead take x * x and compare the result to your starting number:
Suppose you want the square root of 144.
(a) start with x = 10, you get 10 x 10 = 100 which is < 144 so increase 10.
(b) Try 11, you get 11 x 11 = 121 < 144, so increase 11.
(c) Try 13 you get 13 x 13 = 169 > 144, so decrease 13
.
.
. etc etc etc until eventually you get to x = 12 and you get 12 x 12 = 144 = 144 and so you stop.
It is ugly and inelegant and it works by using raw processing power.
It's ironic, when I used to use a slide rule I would spend more time figuring out where to put the decimal place than I did in solving for the number itself. I probably still have my table of logarithms book in storage somewhere. When the EMP hits I'll be scrambling to find it while I unearth the silver coins from their hiding spot.
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